Page 1 of 10 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 98

Thread: Intel Vets Tell Trump Iran Is Not Top Terror Sponsor

  1. #1
    Advisor
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:32 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    366

    Intel Vets Tell Trump Iran Is Not Top Terror Sponsor

    I didn't see anything about this on this forum, so I thought I might as well post it here now.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2017/12/2...error-sponsor/

    We are concerned by recent strident and stark public statements from key members of your Administration that paint Iran in very alarmist terms. The average American, without the benefit of history, could easily be persuaded that Iran poses an imminent threat and that there is no alternative for us but military conflict.

    We find this uncomfortably familiar territory. Ten years ago former President George W. Bush was contemplating a war with Iran when, in November of 2007, intelligence analysts issued a formal National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) debunking the prevailing conventional wisdom; namely, that Iran was on the verge of getting a nuclear weapon. The NIE concluded that Iran had stopped working on a nuclear weapon in 2003.

    Recalling this moment in his memoir, Decision Points, President Bush noted that the NIE’s “eye-popping” intelligence findings stayed his hand. He added this rhetorical question: “How could I possibly explain using the military to destroy the nuclear facilities of a country the intelligence community said had no active nuclear weapons program?”
    Iran’s relationship with Hezbollah also has evolved radically. In the early years of the Islamic Republic, Hezbollah was often a proxy and sub-contractor for Iran. But during the last 20 years Hezbollah has become an entity and political force in its own right. It fought Israel to a standstill in 2006 in southern Lebanon, which was a watershed moment in establishing Hezbollah’s transformation into a conventional army. In the intervening years, Hezbollah, which is now part of the Lebanese government, also has turned away from the radical, religious driven violence that is the hallmark of the Sunni extremists, like ISIS.
    The public image of Iran as a hotbed of fanatical terrorists has been usurped since the August 1998 bombings of the U.S. Embassies in east Africa by Al Qaeda and other radical Sunni entities. The U.S. Government’s own list of terrorist attacks since 2001 shows a dramatic drop in the violence carried out by Iran and an accompanying surge in horrific acts by radical Sunni Muslims who are not aligned with Iran. The latest edition of the Global Terrorism Index, a project of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, shows that four groups accounted for 74 percent of all fatalities from terrorism in 2015 — Boko Haram, Al-Qaeda, the Taliban and ISIS.

    Thirteen of the 14 Muslim Groups identified by the U.S. intelligence community as actively hostile to the US are Sunni, not Shia, and are not supported by Iran:

    – ISIS (Sunni)

    – The Al-Nusra Front (Sunni)

    – Al-Qa’ida Central (Sunni)

    – Al-Qa’ida in Magheb (Sunni)

    – Al-Qa’ida in Arabian Peninsula (Sunni)

    – Boku Haram (Sunni)

    – Al-Shabbab (Sunni)

    – Khorassan Group (Sunni)

    – Society of the Muslim Brothers (Sunni)

    – Sayyaf Group in the Philippines (Sunni)

    – Taliban in Pakistan and Afghanistan (Sunni)

    – Lashgar i Taiba (Sunni)

    – Jemaa Islamiya (Sunni)

    – Houthis (Shia)
    Official pronouncements on critical national security matters need to be based on facts. Hyperbole in describing Iran’s terrorist activities can be counterproductive. For this reason, we call attention to Ambassador Nikki Haley’s recent statement that it is hard to find a “terrorist group in the Middle East that does not have Iran’s fingerprints all over it.” The truth is quite different. The majority of terrorist groups in the region are neither creatures nor puppets of Iran. ISIS, Al-Qaeda and Al-Nusra are three of the more prominent that come to mind.

    You have presented yourself as someone willing to speak hard truths in the face of establishment pressure and not to accept the status quo. You spoke out during the campaign against the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq as a historic mistake of epic proportions. You also correctly captured the mood of many Americans fatigued from constant war in far away lands. Yet the torrent of warnings from Washington about the dangers supposedly posed by Iran and the need to confront them are being widely perceived as steps toward reversing your pledge not to get embroiled in new wars.
    I would suggest reading the whole article.

  2. #2
    Sage
    reinoe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Out West
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    16,387
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Intel Vets Tell Trump Iran Is Not Top Terror Sponsor

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lurker View Post
    I didn't see anything about this on this forum, so I thought I might as well post it here now.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2017/12/2...error-sponsor/









    I would suggest reading the whole article.
    While I haven't read the article, it wouldn't surprise me if they told Trump that the U.S. is currently the top sponsor of terrorism. While the arming and training of radical Islam terrorists moderate rebels is winding down and being paid by the CIA, they're still operational.
    Trump Attacked A Syrian Airfield. Trump will be a one-term president.

  3. #3
    Advisor
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:32 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    366

    Re: Intel Vets Tell Trump Iran Is Not Top Terror Sponsor

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    While I haven't read the article, it wouldn't surprise me if they told Trump that the U.S. is currently the top sponsor of terrorism. While the arming and training of radical Islam terrorists moderate rebels is winding down and being paid by the CIA, they're still operational.
    From what I understand, it's the Pentagon that's currently paying the "moderate rebels," not the CIA.

  4. #4
    Sage

    Hawkeye10's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2015
    Location
    Olympia Wa
    Last Seen
    Today @ 03:47 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    26,673

    Re: Intel Vets Tell Trump Iran Is Not Top Terror Sponsor

    The problem for these chaps is with as often and as long as the American Intelligence Community has collectively turned in **** work getting people to listen is dicey.
    Donald Trump is a strange cat and an acquired taste, but he is one of the most vivid, and one of the most astoundingly successful figures of American history.<<<<<<Conrad Black

  5. #5
    Sage
    reinoe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Out West
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    16,387
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Intel Vets Tell Trump Iran Is Not Top Terror Sponsor

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lurker View Post
    From what I understand, it's the Pentagon that's currently paying the "moderate rebels," not the CIA.
    The CIA is directly paying a lot of radical Islamic Terrorists moderate rebels.

    CIA paid terrorists are shocked that their government payments may come to an end under Trump.

    It appears that the Pentagon is paying for their own separate private army of radical Islamic terrorists moderate rebels. Of course it was only a matter of time before the CIA and Pentagon back radical Islamic terrorists would start fighting each other. As exemplified here...

    In comical display foreign policy ineptitude: Obama's paid terrorists are fighting each other.
    Trump Attacked A Syrian Airfield. Trump will be a one-term president.

  6. #6
    Advisor
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:32 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    366

    Re: Intel Vets Tell Trump Iran Is Not Top Terror Sponsor

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    The CIA is directly paying a lot of radical Islamic Terrorists moderate rebels.

    https://www.ft.com/content/a35244e6-...b-33fe0c5b7eaa

    It appears that the Pentagon is paying for their own separate private army of radical Islamic terrorists moderate rebels. Of course it was only a matter of time before the CIA and Pentagon back radical Islamic terrorists would start fighting each other. As exemplified here...

    In comical display foreign policy ineptitude: Obama's paid terrorists are fighting each other.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Trump at least end the CIA program to arm and pay these so-called "moderate rebels?" It's too little, too late, but still.

    Regardless, I think I read somewhere that the Jihadi groups (and I think ISIS) were fighting amongst themselves.

    Do you believe that ISIS is nothing more than a false flag?

  7. #7
    Temp Suspended
    Join Date
    Feb 2017
    Location
    Midwest USA
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 05:49 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    4,761

    Re: Intel Vets Tell Trump Iran Is Not Top Terror Sponsor

    Drumpf will never listen to anyone else, advisors, etc. Drumpf will only listen to his inner penis ..................

  8. #8
    Sage
    RetiredUSN's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Location
    Norfolk Virginia area.
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:32 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    11,871

    Re: Intel Vets Tell Trump Iran Is Not Top Terror Sponsor

    Quote Originally Posted by cuban smokes View Post
    Drumpf will never listen to anyone else, advisors, etc. Drumpf will only listen to his inner penis ..................
    How many have been maimed or killed by IED's
    “It’s easier to run for office than to run the office.”
    Tip O'Niell

  9. #9
    Sage
    apdst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Bagdad, La.
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 08:13 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    77,850

    Re: Intel Vets Tell Trump Iran Is Not Top Terror Sponsor

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lurker View Post
    I didn't see anything about this on this forum, so I thought I might as well post it here now.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2017/12/2...error-sponsor/









    I would suggest reading the whole article.
    Where did these idiots come from?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

  10. #10
    Sage
    apdst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Bagdad, La.
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 08:13 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    77,850

    Re: Intel Vets Tell Trump Iran Is Not Top Terror Sponsor

    Quote Originally Posted by cuban smokes View Post
    Drumpf will never listen to anyone else, advisors, etc. Drumpf will only listen to his inner penis ..................
    Thankfully he's smart enough not to listen to these clowns in the OP's source.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

Page 1 of 10 123 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •