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Intel Vets Tell Trump Iran Is Not Top Terror Sponsor

azgreg said:
These idiots are all former officers of the US intelligence community and are actually on your side in the Russian hacking story.
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Former being a very fortunate term. The fact that these clowns are former members of the intel community is probably in the best interests of The United States.

Anyone who claims Iran isn't a terrorist sponsor is an idiot.
 
apdst said:
Former being a very fortunate term. The fact that these clowns are former members of the intel community is probably in the best interests of The United States.

Anyone who claims Iran isn't a terrorist sponsor is an idiot.
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We can say the same thing with you and the military.
 
apdst said:
Former being a very fortunate term. The fact that these clowns are former members of the intel community is probably in the best interests of The United States.

Anyone who claims Iran isn't a terrorist sponsor is an idiot.
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Anyone who claims they are has been overexposed to the MSM agenda, not news.
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azgreg said:
We can say the same thing with you and the military.
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Because, as usual, you resort to personal attacks once your argument falls apart.
 
apdst said:
Iran has been convicted in a United States court for supporting terrorism...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khobar_Towers_bombing
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International crimes must be tried in International Courts. The USA refuses to join the ICC. I convicted that rascal and Mass Killer, GWBush, in a kangaroo court in the treehouse over the petunia patch. The Judge, Justin o. Peewillie, issued the warranty, but, same as Iran, petty BS.
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apdst said:
Because, as usual, you resort to personal attacks once your argument falls apart.
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Except my argument didn't fall apart. You were calling a group that you didn't know the first thing about idiots. Again showing your ignorance.
 
azgreg said:
Except my argument didn't fall apart. You were calling a group that you didn't know the first thing about idiots. Again showing your ignorance.
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A group that claims Iran isn't a state sponsor of terrorism is a group of idiots. That's all I need to know about them.
 
apdst said:
A group that claims Iran isn't a state sponsor of terrorism is a group of idiots. That's all I need to know about them.
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No, they said Iran wasn't the top sponsor of terrorism. Again you're showing you either won't read a link provided by a poster or can't read it. I'm leaning towards the later.
 
azgreg said:
No, they said Iran wasn't the top sponsor of terrorism. Again you're showing you either won't read a link provided by a poster or can't read it. I'm leaning towards the later.
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I read the source provided in the OP and it claims that there's no connection between Iran and al Qaeda. That's where it's credibility jumps the tracks.

Maybe you should learn to think for yourself vice taking someone else's word for, just because that's what you want to believe.

The last Islamic State redoubts have been falling in quick succession in recent weeks, with the U.S.-backed coalition taking the caliphate’s self-declared capital of Raqqa last month, and then Syrian forces reclaiming the strategic oil city of Deir al-Zour. But while the group’s experiment in a statehood built on rape, slavery, and execution nears its end, an older terror front has been quietly reconstituting itself. Against all odds, and despite the most costly counter-terrorism campaign ever waged by the West, al-Qaeda has flourished—its comeback assisted by a remarkable pact with Iran.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/11/al-qaeda-iran-cia/545576/
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Now, post more insults and I'll post more facts. It'll be my Christmas present to you. :lamo
 
apdst said:
I read the source provided in the OP and it claims that there's no connection between Iran and al Qaeda. That's where it's credibility jumps the tracks.

Maybe you should learn to think for yourself vice taking someone else's word for, just because that's what you want to believe.



Now, post more insults and I'll post more facts. It'll be my Christmas present to you. :lamo
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It says no such thing. It just states that Al-Qaeda are neither creatures nor puppets of Iran. That's not the same thing as saying there isn't a connection. Try to fail less, you're embarrassing yourself like always.
 
azgreg said:
It says no such thing. It just states that Al-Qaeda are neither creatures nor puppets of Iran. That's not the same thing as saying there isn't a connection. Try to fail less, you're embarrassing yourself like always.
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It says that very thing. Maybe you should read the source?

Thirteen of the 14 Muslim Groups identified by the U.S. intelligence community as actively hostile to the US are Sunni, not Shia, and are not supported by Iran:

– ISIS (Sunni)

– The Al-Nusra Front (Sunni)

– Al-Qa’ida Central (Sunni)

– Al-Qa’ida in Magheb (Sunni)

– Al-Qa’ida in Arabian Peninsula (Sunni)
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apdst said:
It says that very thing. Maybe you should read the source?
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Those are groups affiliated with al-Qaeda and not al-Qaeda itself, however it can be considered a difference without distinction as funds from any origin can flow throughout. I'll concede that point. I'll also give you credit for the Atlantic piece. It was a good read. All this still doesn't change the point of the OP that Iran is the top terror sponsor though. I apologize for the insults. It hasn't been that Christmasy of a Christmas so far and I took it out on you. I'm sorry for that.
 
azgreg said:
Those are groups affiliated with al-Qaeda and not al-Qaeda itself, however it can be considered a difference without distinction as funds from any origin can flow throughout. I'll concede that point. I'll also give you credit for the Atlantic piece. It was a good read. All this still doesn't change the point of the OP that Iran is the top terror sponsor though. I apologize for the insults. It hasn't been that Christmasy of a Christmas so far and I took it out on you. I'm sorry for that.
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I understand that. Christmas lost it's luster for me years ago.
 
apdst said:
I read the source provided in the OP and it claims that there's no connection between Iran and al Qaeda. That's where it's credibility jumps the tracks.

Maybe you should learn to think for yourself vice taking someone else's word for, just because that's what you want to believe.



Now, post more insults and I'll post more facts. It'll be my Christmas present to you. :lamo
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I don't trust the mainstream media.

Also, you should read this article by the American Conservative.

Translated Doc Debunks Narrative of Al Qaeda-Iran ‘Alliance’ | The American Conservative
 
apdst said:
A group that claims Iran isn't a state sponsor of terrorism is a group of idiots. That's all I need to know about them.
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It shows you know nothing abour Iran. They gotta be good guys because Ronnie Reagan traded them weapons and parts for keeping the Iran Hostages to prevent Jimmie Carter from being re-elected. KEEERisst, a character reference from a leading Republican.. What more could you ask for?
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People act like this is something new. Under Reagan, we backed OBL and mujahideen fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan. We also funded central American insurgent groups that massacred thousands in their bid for pro-US regime change. Under GW Bush we paid insurgent groups not to fight the U.S. and to play police officer in their area of control. The U.S. has a long history of war by proxy.
 
DaveFagan said:
It shows you know nothing abour Iran. They gotta be good guys because Ronnie Reagan traded them weapons and parts for keeping the Iran Hostages to prevent Jimmie Carter from being re-elected. KEEERisst, a character reference from a leading Republican.. What more could you ask for?
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I know enough about Iran to know it's a state sponsor of terrorism.
 
Lerxst said:
People act like this is something new. Under Reagan, we backed OBL and mujahideen fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan. We also funded central American insurgent groups that massacred thousands in their bid for pro-US regime change. Under GW Bush we paid insurgent groups not to fight the U.S. and to play police officer in their area of control. The U.S. has a long history of war by proxy.
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That didn't happen. You're the last person on here that I expected to repeat that lie.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Operation cyclone
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You might ought to have done a little research, before posting such generic information...

The story about bin Laden and the CIA—that the CIA funded bin Laden or trained bin Laden—is simply a folk myth. There's no evidence of this. In fact, there are very few things that bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri and the U.S. government agree on. They all agree that they didn't have a relationship in the 1980s. And they wouldn't have needed to. Bin Laden had his own money, he was anti-American and he was operating secretly and independently. The real story here is the CIA did not understand who Osama was until 1996, when they set up a unit to really start tracking him.

CNN.com - Bergen: Bin Laden, CIA links hogwash - Aug 24, 2006
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apdst said:
You might ought to have done a little research, before posting such generic information...
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Haqqani and Hekmatyar were beneficiaries of the CIA’s support provided in operation cyclone.

Al-Qaeda has benefited from allying with the Haqqani network and hekmatyar’s fighters.
 
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