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    Re: Trump Says US 'Foolishly Spent' $7 Trillion in the Middle East As He Spends $2 Billion a Day on

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lurker View Post
    I concur. Unfortunately, Trump is repeating it.
    No he is not, Trump is being more responsible with our military than of any of the Presidents since at least Old Man Bush.
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    Re: Trump Says US 'Foolishly Spent' $7 Trillion in the Middle East As He Spends $2 Billion a Day on

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    No he is not, Trump is being more responsible with our military than of any of the Presidents since at least Old Man Bush.
    If he were responsible with our military, he would bring our troops home.

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    Re: Trump Says US 'Foolishly Spent' $7 Trillion in the Middle East As He Spends $2 Billion a Day on

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    If he were responsible with our military, he would bring our troops home.
    Not until the Chinese are ready to take over.
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    Re: Trump Says US 'Foolishly Spent' $7 Trillion in the Middle East As He Spends $2 Billion a Day on

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    Trump is ripping ISIS a new one.
    Lol. The Iraq Shia, the Syrian Kurds, and Russian incendiary/cluster munitions are ripping ISIS a new one.


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    Re: Trump Says US 'Foolishly Spent' $7 Trillion in the Middle East As He Spends $2 Billion a Day on

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    As per the Constitution. Congress can't do it alone.
    You mean as per the Constitution only Congress can declare war?

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    Re: Trump Says US 'Foolishly Spent' $7 Trillion in the Middle East As He Spends $2 Billion a Day on

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau72 View Post
    You mean as per the Constitution only Congress can declare war?
    Well, as per the Constitution, Congress can pass all the laws they want to and they aren't law until the President signs them. For the edification of the poster saying that it wasn't Trump, it was Congress.


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    Re: Trump Says US 'Foolishly Spent' $7 Trillion in the Middle East As He Spends $2 Billion a Day on

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Well, as per the Constitution, Congress can pass all the laws they want to and they aren't law until the President signs them. For the edification of the poster saying that it wasn't Trump, it was Congress.
    I understand your point, and he had a good point too--reality as opposed to theory.

    To further focus your post here, as per the Constitution, the last sentence of Article I Section 8, "to make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution THE FOREGOING POWERS"

    The fine point being that Congress CANNOT "pass all the laws they want to", rather per the constitution, they can pass laws ONLY in the context and authority of the foregoing powers.

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    Re: Trump Says US 'Foolishly Spent' $7 Trillion in the Middle East As He Spends $2 Billion a Day on

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau72 View Post
    You mean as per the Constitution only Congress can declare war?
    Congress abrogated that responsibility right after the Gulf of Tonkein incident. It's time for them to take it back, quick, before the new CIC decides we need yet another Vietnam or Iraq.


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    Re: Trump Says US 'Foolishly Spent' $7 Trillion in the Middle East As He Spends $2 Billion a Day on

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    Trump Says US 'Foolishly Spent' $7 Trillion in the Middle East As He Spends $2 Billion a Day on War





    I suppose that Thoreau72 was right:



    Trump, to me, is no different than Obama, Bush, and all the Presidents that came before.
    I have always said that Eisenhower was the best president I personally experienced in my lifetime. 8 years of peace once the armistice was signed for the Korean War. 8 years of economic expansion and growth of the middle class. Ike kept a close eye on military spending, giving the military what it needed, but nothing more.

    The problem isn't only the military industrial complex. It is also those in congress which use our military as a civilian jobs creator and maintainer. There's been many things that even the JCS has said the military doesn't need, don't want and can't use. But congress funds those things anyway to keep jobs back home or to create new ones. My whole life has been military, but I have always said if we just funded the military with what it needs to protect and defend this country, one could cut 100 billion easily from the defense budget.

    We spend way to much buying equipment and systems that aren't needed and storing them away in some warehouse in order to keep civilian jobs or to gain new ones. Then ten years latter, that same equipment, systems are sold by DRMO at a tenth of the cost it originally cost to make and produce that stuff.

    This I think is much more of a problem than what is happening overseas. Those troops, equipment etc would still have to be housed and paid whether overseas or here in the states. Sure the munition used over in the middle east and elsewhere needs replacing, but quite a lot of that munition would need replacing any way either due to age or use in training exercises, qualification and other uses. The wear and tear on equipment would probably be reduced if station here instead of overseas, but the cost of maintenance continues regardless of location. Our ships at sea would still be at sea, if not the middle east, someplace else in the Atlantic or Pacific.

    This is why I say the biggest problem is congress using the military as a jobs creator and maintainer.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Trump Says US 'Foolishly Spent' $7 Trillion in the Middle East As He Spends $2 Billion a Day on

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau72 View Post
    I understand your point, and he had a good point too--reality as opposed to theory.

    To further focus your post here, as per the Constitution, the last sentence of Article I Section 8, "to make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution THE FOREGOING POWERS"

    The fine point being that Congress CANNOT "pass all the laws they want to", rather per the constitution, they can pass laws ONLY in the context and authority of the foregoing powers.
    The point still is that it could not have become law without the President's signature. Trump, as President, signed it. Therefore, it got his approval.


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