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    Re: Trump Says US 'Foolishly Spent' $7 Trillion in the Middle East As He Spends $2 Billion a Day on

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    As per the Constitution. Congress can't do it alone.
    I understand that. What I'm saying is that Trump deserves to be seen as being culpable in the military spending. He's the one that signed the legislation after all.

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    Re: Trump Says US 'Foolishly Spent' $7 Trillion in the Middle East As He Spends $2 Billion a Day on

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    Trump Says US 'Foolishly Spent' $7 Trillion in the Middle East As He Spends $2 Billion a Day on War

    I suppose that Thoreau72 was right:

    Trump, to me, is no different than Obama, Bush, and all the Presidents that came before.
    The problem every President since WW2 has had concerning the MIC is that military spending and using the bayonet when necessary is much less expensive than not doing so.

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    Re: Trump Says US 'Foolishly Spent' $7 Trillion in the Middle East As He Spends $2 Billion a Day on

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lurker View Post
    I understand that. What I'm saying is that Trump deserves to be seen as being culpable in the military spending. He's the one that signed the legislation after all.
    Absolutely. I was agreeing with you. Congress didn't do it alone.


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    Re: Trump Says US 'Foolishly Spent' $7 Trillion in the Middle East As He Spends $2 Billion a Day on

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lurker View Post
    Trump Says US 'Foolishly Spent' $7 Trillion in the Middle East As He Spends $2 Billion a Day on War





    I suppose that Thoreau72 was right:



    Trump, to me, is no different than Obama, Bush, and all the Presidents that came before.
    The difference is...

    Obama spent that money foolishly. Obama spent that money to allow ISIS to flourish and expand. Obama spent that money to obtain the result of a military that is hardly capable of meeting its obligation, let alone be ready for emergencies.

    Trump is ripping ISIS a new one. Trump is determined to bring our military back to being the best fighting force in the world.
    TANSTAAFL

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    Re: Trump Says US 'Foolishly Spent' $7 Trillion in the Middle East As He Spends $2 Billion a Day on

    Quote Originally Posted by camlok View Post
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    Re: Trump Says US 'Foolishly Spent' $7 Trillion in the Middle East As He Spends $2 Billion a Day on

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    The difference is...

    Obama spent that money foolishly. Obama spent that money to allow ISIS to flourish and expand. Obama spent that money to obtain the result of a military that is hardly capable of meeting its obligation, let alone be ready for emergencies.

    Trump is ripping ISIS a new one. Trump is determined to bring our military back to being the best fighting force in the world.
    ISIS was already basically dead thanks to the efforts of Syria, Iran, and Russia. And spending money on a military budget that's already the biggest in the world is foolish. It means more lives lost when we should be distancing ourselves from the world and focusing on our own problems. Instead, we're still babysitting the world.

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    Re: Trump Says US 'Foolishly Spent' $7 Trillion in the Middle East As He Spends $2 Billion a Day on

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lurker View Post
    Right about what? About the military spending being a waste? If so, I agree with you. But I think it's hollow if he goes against what he said, which he did.
    Right that we wasted a **** ton of money on unwise military adventures,...a classic mistake, one that is speeding the collapse of America.
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    Re: Trump Says US 'Foolishly Spent' $7 Trillion in the Middle East As He Spends $2 Billion a Day on

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Right that we wasted a **** ton of money on unwise military adventures,...a classic mistake, one that is speeding the collapse of America.
    I concur. Unfortunately, Trump is repeating it.

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    Re: Trump Says US 'Foolishly Spent' $7 Trillion in the Middle East As He Spends $2 Billion a Day on

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lurker View Post
    ISIS was already basically dead thanks to the efforts of Syria, Iran, and Russia.
    And Trump is working WITH them...instead of against them...to get the job done. Obama?...not so much.

    And spending money on a military budget that's already the biggest in the world is foolish. It means more lives lost when we shouldn't be distancing ourselves from the world and focus on our own problems, not trying to babysit it.
    I don't think you understand the nature, the uses and the purpose of having a large, powerful and capable military. Believe me...we need it. And it costs money. But the benefits outweigh the costs. The problem we run into all the time is that when the Democrats get into power, they cut the military as much as they possibly can and we end up in a bad position. Then a Republican fixes things...and the snowflakes blame the Republican.

    So it goes...
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    Re: Trump Says US 'Foolishly Spent' $7 Trillion in the Middle East As He Spends $2 Billion a Day on

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    And Trump is working WITH them...instead of against them...to get the job done. Obama?...not so much.



    I don't think you understand the nature, the uses and the purpose of having a large, powerful and capable military. Believe me...we need it. And it costs money. But the benefits outweigh the costs. The problem we run into all the time is that when the Democrats get into power, they cut the military as much as they possibly can and we end up in a bad position. Then a Republican fixes things...and the snowflakes blame the Republican.

    So it goes...
    Actually, both the Republican Party and the Democratic Party increase military spending. It increased under Obama, Bush, Clinton and so on and so forth. We already spend more on the cost of our military several times over what other countries like China spend. And Trump hasn't shown that he intends to work with Syria or Iran or Russia. He's aiding the neo-Nazi controlled government in Ukraine, he's been making threats against Iran, and he hasn't pulled any troops away from Syria. He hasn't even stopped the Pentagon from funding the "moderate rebels" (read: jihadists) in Syria. Instead of spending on our military, we should be spending on, for example, our infrastructure like Trump originally said he would.
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