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    Re: Green Party's Jill Stein targeted by Russia probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Saladin4 View Post
    I remember a sweating screaming trump "I love WikiLeaks".....trump and his goons colluded with Russia...of that...I have NO doubt
    Collusion is not a crime but Conspiracy against the United States is.

    18 U.S. Code 371 - Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States
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    If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

    If, however, the offense, the commission of which is the object of the conspiracy, is a misdemeanor only, the punishment for such conspiracy shall not exceed the maximum punishment provided for such misdemeanor.

    (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 701; Pub. L. 103322, title XXXIII,  330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

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    Re: Green Party's Jill Stein targeted by Russia probe

    Many politicians go on CNN or Fox News, but that doesn't mean that they bow down to Rupert Murdoch or whoever owns CNN.

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    Re: Green Party's Jill Stein targeted by Russia probe

    Quote Originally Posted by NeverTrumpGOP View Post
    Can you follow my first post? Then read carefully. I said the Green Party and the Libertarians are in bed with the Russians. These two articles show Ron Paul's Pro-Russian stances.
    OMG, the GP and the LP are in bed with the Russians?!?!? Yikes, I hope your wife is not also in bed with the Russians! Or the Governor of your state!!! Holy Cow, the entire country must be in bed with the Russians.

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    Re: Green Party's Jill Stein targeted by Russia probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau72 View Post
    OMG, the GP and the LP are in bed with the Russians?!?!? Yikes, I hope your wife is not also in bed with the Russians! Or the Governor of your state!!! Holy Cow, the entire country must be in bed with the Russians.
    You should read the article that I posted in one of my threads. It really shreds the whole "Russia-gate" nonsense apart.

    https://www.debatepolitics.com/bias-...ould-read.html (What We Don't Talk about When We Talk about Russian hacking (everyone should read this))

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    Re: Green Party's Jill Stein targeted by Russia probe

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lurker View Post
    You should read the article that I posted in one of my threads. It really shreds the whole "Russia-gate" nonsense apart.

    https://www.debatepolitics.com/bias-...ould-read.html (What We Don't Talk about When We Talk about Russian hacking (everyone should read this))
    Thanks for that fine article. I've been on that bandwagon for about a year. Whistleblowers like Binney and Drake and Kiriakou and Snowden and Manning are the heroes today.

    That so many otherwise intelligent people, many friends of mine here in the real world, buy into the nonsense of Russiagate is a sad comment on how well indoctrinated the American electorate is.

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    Re: Green Party's Jill Stein targeted by Russia probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau72 View Post
    Thanks for that fine article. I've been on that bandwagon for about a year. Whistleblowers like Binney and Drake and Kiriakou and Snowden and Manning are the heroes today.

    That so many otherwise intelligent people, many friends of mine here in the real world, buy into the nonsense of Russiagate is a sad comment on how well indoctrinated the American electorate is.
    I don't think the American people are all that indoctrinated. I've seen many that don't like either Party, so that's something. And I think many are getting sick and tired of the endless war that's been going on.

    As I've said before, we should be friends with Russia, not enemies.

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    Re: Green Party's Jill Stein targeted by Russia probe

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lurker View Post
    I don't think the American people are all that indoctrinated. I've seen many that don't like either Party, so that's something. And I think many are getting sick and tired of the endless war that's been going on.

    As I've said before, we should be friends with Russia, not enemies.
    I do agree with you that many are beginning to seriously be skeptical of government pronouncements. The question is, can the people really do anything about this? In my cynical view, the bad guys hijacked the federal government decades ago at least. I do not believe the US political system is capable of bringing the change necessary to change the trajectory. I hope I'm wrong.

    I think a massive revolt using the jury box, combined with the ballot box, might change direction, but at this stage, I'm skeptical.

    Using Russiagate as an example, you and I and quite a few others understand the deception, but most people IMO still buy into the deception.

    BTW, I voted for Stein this last time.

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    Re: Green Party's Jill Stein targeted by Russia probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau72 View Post
    I do agree with you that many are beginning to seriously be skeptical of government pronouncements. The question is, can the people really do anything about this? In my cynical view, the bad guys hijacked the federal government decades ago at least. I do not believe the US political system is capable of bringing the change necessary to change the trajectory. I hope I'm wrong.

    I think a massive revolt using the jury box, combined with the ballot box, might change direction, but at this stage, I'm skeptical.

    Using Russiagate as an example, you and I and quite a few others understand the deception, but most people IMO still buy into the deception.

    BTW, I voted for Stein this last time.
    I wouldn't be surprised if what it took was an armed revolution. Sorry, I know that sounds far-fetched, but in the end, it may be our only option. This is why I support gun rights. Well, one of the reasons, anyway. At least the threat of an armed revolution keeps the oligarchs at the door.

    How familiar are you with Operation Gladio?

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    Re: Green Party's Jill Stein targeted by Russia probe

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lurker View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised if what it took was an armed revolution. Sorry, I know that sounds far-fetched, but in the end, it may be our only option. This is why I support gun rights. Well, one of the reasons, anyway. At least the threat of an armed revolution keeps the oligarchs at the door.

    How familiar are you with Operation Gladio?
    FYI, the oligarchs are already in charge, and have been for some time now. I'm sympathetic and all for the 2nd Amendment, but the truth is that the oligarchs and corporations have taken control of the government and society IN SPITE of an armed citizenry.

    Yes, I'm familiar with Gladio. I'm a fan of Sibel Edmonds. I think Gladio is still at work and likely responsible for many of the staged events we see in Europe. Maybe here too.

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    Re: Green Party's Jill Stein targeted by Russia probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau72 View Post
    FYI, the oligarchs are already in charge, and have been for some time now. I'm sympathetic and all for the 2nd Amendment, but the truth is that the oligarchs and corporations have taken control of the government and society IN SPITE of an armed citizenry.

    Yes, I'm familiar with Gladio. I'm a fan of Sibel Edmonds. I think Gladio is still at work and likely responsible for many of the staged events we see in Europe. Maybe here too.
    You're familiar with Sibel Edmonds? That's great! I'm familiar with Newsbud, although I haven't been keeping up with it lately. But I know that she opposes Fethulah Gulen, so that's definitely a plus.

    As for Gladio, I too believe that it is still in effect. The terrorist attack in London done this year was a person apart of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, which was an organization that helped oust al-Gaddafi and turned Libya into a hellhole. Get this: the authorities in London were alerted by the FBI that there was going to be an attack (and that this man who came back from Libya was likely the one to do it, I think, but I'm not sure on that point) and yet they did nothing. It's like how police were told to stand down in Charlottesville and let violence happen under their watch.

    Have you watched this video? I think you'll find yourself agreeing with it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tu32CCA_Ig

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