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    Judge blocks Trump rollback of Obamacare contraception mandate

    Judge blocks Trump rollback of Obamacare contraception mandate


    By VICTORIA COLLIVER 12/15/2017



    A federal judge in Pennsylvania on Friday blocked the Trump administration from enforcing new rules that would allow virtually any employer to claim a religious or moral objection to Obamacare's birth control coverage mandate. Judge Wendy Beetlestone granted Pennsylvania's request for a preliminary injunction, saying the commonwealth could suffer "serious and irreparable harm" from the rules. The Affordable Care Act requires employers to cover birth control with no cost sharing, with narrow exemptions. The Trump administration, in issuing its directive, has said it was acting to protect individuals and groups from being forced to violate their religious beliefs while downplaying concerns that more women would struggle to afford birth control.

    A federal judge in California heard arguments over the same issue earlier this week and is expected issue a ruling soon. Four other states — Delaware, Maryland, New York and Virginia — have joined California in the motion. Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro said in a statement Friday that Congress hasn't changed the birth control requirements in the ACA, so the president "can’t simply ignore it with an illegal rule." "Donald Trump broke the law to undermine women’s health, and women here in Pennsylvania stood up and proved that in court. Together we’ve won a nationwide halt to these rules, protecting women across the country," he said.
    Trump and his [mis]administration seem to think the executive branch can arbitrarily change US law via the stroke of a pen.


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    Re: Judge blocks Trump rollback of Obamacare contraception mandate

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    Judge blocks Trump rollback of Obamacare contraception mandate




    Trump and his [mis]administration seem to think the executive branch can arbitrarily change US law via the stroke of a pen.
    That's good news for women.

    Now if it's possible, it would be nice if a judge could block the net neutrality repeal!
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    Not just good news for women, good news for us all. Imagine a world in which ALL pregnancies are carried to birth.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Not just good news for women, good news for us all. Imagine a world in which ALL pregnancies are carried to birth.


    Yikes.
    Yep, because before PPACA that was the case.
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    Re: Judge blocks Trump rollback of Obamacare contraception mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Yep, because before PPACA that was the case.
    No, but there were plenty of instances in which health insurance companies denied coverage of contraceptives.


    Was I hyperbolic? Yes. To prove a point. An ounce of prevention is worth pounds or cure.
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    Re: Judge blocks Trump rollback of Obamacare contraception mandate

    I've always been confused as to why birth control should be covered by health insurance.

    I've always bought my own condoms, even as a kid.

    It's one thing to fund a "public service" organization like Planned Parenthood, where people can get free (or low cost) contraceptives.

    Health insurance premiums come from use of the plans. The more people that use them, the higher the premiums grow.

    That's because it's a "profit" business, not a public service.

    I just don't see how this should fall under "health insurance."
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    Re: Judge blocks Trump rollback of Obamacare contraception mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    I've always been confused as to why birth control should be covered by health insurance.

    I've always bought my own condoms, even as a kid.

    It's one thing to fund a "public service" organization like Planned Parenthood, where people can get free (or low cost) contraceptives.

    Health insurance premiums come from use of the plans. The more people that use them, the higher the premiums grow.

    That's because it's a "profit" business, not a public service.

    I just don't see how this should fall under "health insurance."
    Unlike a condom, the pill is not some OTC medication, it dramatically alters a woman's body chemistry, requires a prescription, Dr visits, etc.
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    Re: Judge blocks Trump rollback of Obamacare contraception mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Unlike a condom, the pill is not some OTC medication, it dramatically alters a woman's body chemistry, requires a prescription, Dr visits, etc.
    Hence, Planned Parenthood...which is already funded by tax dollars.

    Why should I pay twice?
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    Re: Judge blocks Trump rollback of Obamacare contraception mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    No, but there were plenty of instances in which health insurance companies denied coverage of contraceptives.


    Was I hyperbolic? Yes. To prove a point. An ounce of prevention is worth pounds or cure.
    The are many, in fact most, medical procedures and medicines that are not offered at no out of pocket costs. You do realize that if X, Y and Z are covered at no out of pocket cost then all premiums are adjusted upwards to cover those "no cost" perks.

    This is the marketing BS that is used to say that the purchase of X includes free local delivery and set up - that does not mean that delivery and setup are done for no cost (by some mysterious volunteers) it simply means that those costs were included in the purchase price of X.
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    Re: Judge blocks Trump rollback of Obamacare contraception mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Unlike a condom, the pill is not some OTC medication, it dramatically alters a woman's body chemistry, requires a prescription, Dr visits, etc.
    But “reproduction management” is the basics of being a woman. I don’t believe we should all chip in when we can’t even stop the mentally ill from reproducing.
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