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    Re: Judge blocks Trump rollback of Obamacare contraception mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Unlike a condom, the pill is not some OTC medication, it dramatically alters a woman's body chemistry, requires a prescription, Dr visits, etc.
    So is warfarin (coumadin) which can be both medically necessary and life saving - why was that not mandated to be covered at no out of pocket cost?
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    Re: Judge blocks Trump rollback of Obamacare contraception mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    I've always been confused as to why birth control should be covered by health insurance.
    Let me guess, you also complain about the cost of maternity coverage?

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    Re: Judge blocks Trump rollback of Obamacare contraception mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeard View Post
    Let me guess, you also complain about the cost of maternity coverage?
    No, not at all. Why would you think so?

    One is purely medical, i.e. the progressive examination of the ZEF development to monitor for problems, and the delivery and subsequent in-hospital care.

    How that compares to paying for peoples contraceptive so they can have sex without having a baby, I certainly don't know. How about a little personal responsibility in at least THAT area. :
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    Re: Judge blocks Trump rollback of Obamacare contraception mandate

    Geesh, what stupid thinking in this country! No wonder we are going broke.

    Contraceptives are NOT a medical necessity.
    In Britain it is covered by its health care system.
    In Germany it is NOT covered by its health care system.

    Which health care system is better off?

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    Re: Judge blocks Trump rollback of Obamacare contraception mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckiechan View Post
    But “reproduction management” is the basics of being a woman. I don’t believe we should all chip in when we can’t even stop the mentally ill from reproducing.
    Then how about you masturbate into a plant or get a vasectomy?

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    Re: Judge blocks Trump rollback of Obamacare contraception mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeard View Post
    Let me guess, you also complain about the cost of maternity coverage?
    What does maternity have to do with contraceptives?!?

    One is a natural occurrence.

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    Re: Judge blocks Trump rollback of Obamacare contraception mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by Barnacle View Post
    What does maternity have to do with contraceptives?!?
    ...a lot?

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    Re: Judge blocks Trump rollback of Obamacare contraception mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    Judge blocks Trump rollback of Obamacare contraception mandate




    Trump and his [mis]administration seem to think the executive branch can arbitrarily change US law via the stroke of a pen.
    The contraceptive mandate isn't "US law." The contraception mandate was HHS regulation. The regulation was promulgated by HHS; it can be rescinded by HHS.

    In other words, the executive branch can indeed undo what the executive branch put into place.

    (Never mind that the Obama administration indeed arbitrarily changed immigration law via the stroke of a pen, by their own words. Some of us warned you all ("I have a pen, and a phone." "If Congress won't act, I will.") that "I have a pen, and a phone" set a lousy precedent that Trump was going to be able to take full advantage of, but some were way too busy cheering that you were getting what you wanted to take heed.)
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    Re: Judge blocks Trump rollback of Obamacare contraception mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeard View Post
    ...a lot?
    What a load of rubbish!

    Giving birth is a normal occurrence, preventing it is abnormal.
    If you don't want to give birth, pay for your own prevention.

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    Re: Judge blocks Trump rollback of Obamacare contraception mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by Barnacle View Post
    What a load of rubbish!

    Giving birth is a normal occurrence, preventing it is abnormal.
    If you don't want to give birth, pay for your own prevention.
    I don't what "normal vs abnormal" or financing have to do with the question of whether contraception and maternity are related. It should be obvious that they are.

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