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    Re: Judge blocks Trump rollback of Obamacare contraception mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    What makes you think I would support "insurance pays for Viagra?" That is a purely elective medical procedure/treatment, and if someone wants to be more successful in bed he should pay for it personally.

    The same holds for any other elective (i.e. non-necessary but client preferred) medical services like hair transplants, laser hair removal, Botox, liposuction, etc.

    You want it, YOU pay for it.
    As someone up thread said - Viagra is often used to treat other things as well.
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    Re: Judge blocks Trump rollback of Obamacare contraception mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by jghiretire View Post
    ........and you would be wrong. Insurance companies did not pay for birth control. It is also a way to discriminate towards women.
    lol -- The person I responded to said he/she would rather pay for 'condoms and birth control' than an unwanted child. You absolutely could do that before the ACA.

    In response to your statement... some paid for birth control for contraception, and others did not. As an elective treatment, it makes sense that the person who is paying for the coverage has some say in what it contains. However -- again -- it's a red herring. We're talking about NOW, and a limited change to allow for religious exemptions on SOME forms of birth control for contraception. Most companies were OK with including it.
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    Re: Judge blocks Trump rollback of Obamacare contraception mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by GDViking View Post
    Abstinence works both ways, if you abstain you don't need Viagra.
    Why should I have to pay for your boner pills nust because you can't get it up?
    It's. Because Insurance is a pool.
    No one is arguing for abstinence. Women can have sex and not use contraception if they want. Men with ED can not have sex and not use viagra. Its two entirely different things is the point.

    Regardless, the govt shouldnt be mandating viagra coverage either. Thats the ultimate point. Get the govt out of it.

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    Re: Judge blocks Trump rollback of Obamacare contraception mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by dcsports View Post
    lol -- The person I responded to said he/she would rather pay for 'condoms and birth control' than an unwanted child. You absolutely could do that before the ACA.
    Nope. Before aca there was no mandate for insurance companies to cover birth control. Now insurance companies have to provide it without deductibles and copays.
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    Re: Judge blocks Trump rollback of Obamacare contraception mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    No one is arguing for abstinence. Women can have sex and not use contraception if they want. Men with ED can not have sex and not use viagra. Its two entirely different things is the point.

    Regardless, the govt shouldnt be mandating viagra coverage either. Thats the ultimate point. Get the govt out of it.
    Nope govt needs to be in birth control. It costs them more to pay for welfare.
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    Re: Judge blocks Trump rollback of Obamacare contraception mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Nope govt needs to be in birth control. It costs them more to pay for welfare.
    Govt doesnt need to be in welfare either.

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    Re: Judge blocks Trump rollback of Obamacare contraception mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Nope. Before aca there was no mandate for insurance companies to cover birth control. Now insurance companies have to provide it without deductibles and copays.
    Try that again. Yes, nothing required employers or individuals to buy coverage that provided free birth control before the ACA. (I wasn't aware that the ACA covered condoms now). But what prevented you from buying them?

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    Re: Judge blocks Trump rollback of Obamacare contraception mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by dcsports View Post
    Try that again. Yes, nothing required employers or individuals to buy coverage that provided free birth control before the ACA. (I wasn't aware that the ACA covered condoms now). But what prevented you from buying them?
    Only prescription birth control meds and devices are covered by the ACA.
    Over the counter condoms, spermicides, BC sponges, were not covered since prescriptions were/ are not used for those meds/devices.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: Judge blocks Trump rollback of Obamacare contraception mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by dcsports View Post
    Try that again. Yes, nothing required employers or individuals to buy coverage that provided free birth control before the ACA. (I wasn't aware that the ACA covered condoms now). But what prevented you from buying them?
    Some people were not able to afford birth control so they kept popping welfare babies. The ACA fixed that.
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    Re: Judge blocks Trump rollback of Obamacare contraception mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Govt doesnt need to be in welfare either.
    Unfortunately you have to pay for one or the other. America is a compassionate country and that takes care of her poor, elderly, sick, disabled, and the most vulnerable people. We can't blame innocent children if they have dead beat parents that can't afford essential services for them. We have to take care of our citizen children until they are 18. Or we can just pay for birth control and there will be less unwanted babies. The choice is yours.
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