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Clinton Struck Deal With Obama State Dept. to Keep Records Private

tres borrachos said:
Maybe Jim Hoft couldn't pay his bill and The Gateway Pundit site was down.
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Or Charles C Johnson was shopping fake testimonials to try to take a congressman down...
 
chuckiechan said:
No, it will be “How we lost the South China Sea, the middle East, the middle class, and our identity as a nation with common beliefs.”
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Yes, this is true, all of it, but, I tend to eschew surplusage...
 
RAMOSS said:
According to whom??

If you check their reputation, no they are not

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/judicial-watch/
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Oh, there is no question they are a "conservative" watch dog organization. But that doesn't negate the validity of the documents they get from the the government with their FOIA suits. Or, do you think the government is lying to them?
 
Mycroft said:
Oh, there is no question they are a "conservative" watch dog organization. But that doesn't negate the validity of the documents they get from the the government with their FOIA suits. Or, do you think the government is lying to them?
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No. I think they misrepresent things , spin things incorrectly, and basically lie.
 
RAMOSS said:
No. I think they misrepresent things , spin things incorrectly, and basically lie.
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If you go back a few posts, you'll see I was not commenting on their "interpretation" of the documents they received. I was commenting on the validity of the documents they were reporting on.

It seems that you think just because they spin their interpretation of those documents, we shouldn't even CONSIDER those documents. I disagree with that. In fact, I tend to look at those documents myself and make my OWN interpretation...but I certainly commend Judicial Watch for going through the work to make those documents known. Heck, otherwise, we would never know about them.

Maybe you prefer it that way, eh? Keep public records concerning Clinton hidden, right?
 
zimmer said:
When? Indeed.
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Zimmer, the Inspector General is already running an investigation on how the Clinton email probe investigation was handled by the FBI and DOJ. I am sure this information will be part of it. In fact it was in the IG's investigation of Clinton is where he discovered the text messages of FBI agent Strzok to his mistress atty at the FBI that in part got him removed from Mueller's team. Between the DOJ and FBI's handling of the email investigation of Clinton and the handling of the Russian Collusion, the Trump Dossier and the number of government players involved adding what the investigations in Congress have uncovered, the **** is about to hit the fan.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Obama is as stuck up as ever but he is going down by the time history tells the story.
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His legacy is all but eliminated already. It took 10.5-months.

What is left over is 9 Trillion of debt, and remnants of his class warfare and racial division campaigns.

Gutting the mandate in the upcoming tax bill, forcing the citizens to buy something... means the end of the Careless Unaffordable Care Act (CACA).

What’s left of his “fundamental transformation”? It seems the debt, and layers of corruption... and of the latter, we learn more with every passing day.
 
beefheart said:
Free Beacon?

You know better than to link to crap sites like this.
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You have proof to the contrary?

Of course you don’t.

If you did, you’d post it.
 
chuckiechan said:
One thing about Obama types - most have never really worked, had positions given to them, etc, - is they don’t understand how the rest of us put food on the table and really don’t care. They think it lands there because we are white.

He should put his money where his mouth is ang run for mayor of Chicago if he’s so damn great and good v
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That would be wonderful. He should have done that before unleashing his Reign of Error on the nation.

First show us how he cleaned up Chicago’s massive problem of black-on-black crime. How he worked with the Governor of the state to help halt the exodus from Illinois.

Show us he could manage something the size of a city or even a small business before shoving his Socialist schemes and class and race warfare claptrap down the throats of the nation.

He failed, and that was evident in 2016. Those Blue Wall States are Blue because they signal a Democrat fortress, a stronghold. Lots of Democrats voted for Trump to end Obama’s Reign of Error... to prevent Clinton from extending 8-years of idiocies...

And we thank them, our Democrat friends, for their support.

Now to power wash the feces from the walls... and that means getting to the bottom of Obama/Clinton corruptions... of the DoJ, State, FBI and IRS. Every day we learn a little bit more about the politicization and corruption of the Obama/Clinton years.
 
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zimmer said:
When? Indeed.
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Lets face it, Obama had backed the wrong pony for the election and his actions to basically groom her for the presidency. Where one of the many indications that he wasn't right for such a job either.
 
zimmer said:
You have proof to the contrary?

Of course you don’t.

If you did, you’d post it.
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Your article from a garbage site had no proof.
 
Wow....some people have trouble moving on. Do you really think that bringing up this bull crap is going to distract people from Trump. Trump nominates several people for judge ships to the federasl bench who have never even been a Judge. Republicans asked basic questions that a paralegal could answer and he nominees knew nothing....and you think this bull crap will distract us from that incompetent utter lack of Respect for this Democracy and the Rule of Law. :spin::spin::spin::spin:
 
beefheart said:
Your article from a garbage site had no proof.
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You must be confused. This is not the NYT, ABC, CBS, NBC or CNN.

[h=1]Clinton Struck Deal With Obama State Dept. to Keep Records Private[/h]DECEMBER 14, 2017

Judicial Watch made the revelation after filing a FOIA request with the State Department and obtaining a record of the agreement.



https://www.judicialwatch.org/press...k-deal-obama-state-dept-keep-records-private/
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[h=1]Obama State Department Let Clinton And Huma Make Off With Boxes Of ‘Muslim Engagement’ Docs[/h]DECEMBER 14, 2017

Judicial Watch obtained records about the document removals in response to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request for all forms authorizing the removal of “personal papers and non-record materials,” according to a Thursday press release.



https://www.judicialwatch.org/press...n-huma-make-off-boxes-muslim-engagement-docs/
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My word, there is an unusual amount of butthurt in this thread based on all the crying the Trumpflakes are doing. "Hillary used black magic, no fair! Hillary can make people kill themselves, no fair! Obama is black, no fair!"

As was pointed out earlier, I'm sure that if President Obama and Hillary Clinton can completely corrupt the DOJ and FBI so that investigations against her are spoiled, Trump and a Republican controlled Congress can get her indicted on something in the next 3 years. Unless......

You Trumpy's are silly lol.
 
Fraggle Rock said:
Wow....some people have trouble moving on. Do you really think that bringing up this bull crap is going to distract people from Trump. Trump nominates several people for judge ships to the federasl bench who have never even been a Judge. Republicans asked basic questions that a paralegal could answer and he nominees knew nothing....and you think this bull crap will distract us from that incompetent utter lack of Respect for this Democracy and the Rule of Law. :spin::spin::spin::spin:
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Oh, Obama will be with us for awhile. While Mueller is busy with this witch hunt, the wheels are beginning to turn on the investigation of the Clinton mob and Obama granting them exemption from the law. The primal scream of "where is the evidence" will soon be rewarded, timed in political fashion to be a boiling cauldron right before the 2020 elections, not to mention trotting out the accusations on every democrat in the democrat barn.

It's all about timing: emotional Democrats against tactical Republicans.
 
zimmer said:
You must be confused. This is not the NYT, ABC, CBS, NBC or CNN.
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Exactly.

It's Judicial Watch, which is pure crap.
 
zimmer said:
His legacy is all but eliminated already. It took 10.5-months.

What is left over is 9 Trillion of debt, and remnants of his class warfare and racial division campaigns.

Gutting the mandate in the upcoming tax bill, forcing the citizens to buy something... means the end of the Careless Unaffordable Care Act (CACA).

What’s left of his “fundamental transformation”? It seems the debt, and layers of corruption... and of the latter, we learn more with every passing day.
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Presidents putting tons of energy into destroying everything the last President did is a sure way to make sure that America never again can have nice things, I am not talking about that ...I am talking about how has the world continues to devolve into chaos increasingly the story is that Obama wasted 8 years that could have made a huge difference, instead he had to be a prick with poor judgement.....he had to be him. It sounds like we are might agree but I am not sure.
 
zimmer said:
When? Indeed.
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I read the article, and it's BS. For example, the article itself points out that her official call logs are maintained and recorded elsewhere, and what she was allowed to keep is either redundant (if official business) or personal and therefore not subject to FOIA.

The rest of the article is basically some form of "CLINTON!!!!! DOCUMENTS REMOVED!!! SCANDAL!!!!" but not even a hint or allegation (other than bare assertion of CLINTON!! SCANDAL!!!) that what she was allowed to remove was improper and other than completely normal and in accordance with standard practice.

There's a reason crap sites like "Free Beacon" are considered, well, crap.
 
zimmer said:
When? Indeed.
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So, where's the smoking gun that says a real investigation is needed? Personal stuff is allowed to go and her "emails" have already been investigated.

What's your point?
 
Bengahziiiiii!!!
 
Lerxst said:
My word, there is an unusual amount of butthurt in this thread based on all the crying the Trumpflakes are doing. "Hillary used black magic, no fair! Hillary can make people kill themselves, no fair! Obama is black, no fair!"

As was pointed out earlier, I'm sure that if President Obama and Hillary Clinton can completely corrupt the DOJ and FBI so that investigations against her are spoiled, Trump and a Republican controlled Congress can get her indicted on something in the next 3 years. Unless......

You Trumpy's are silly lol.
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It really is truly moronic.

At literally any time within the applicable statutes of limitation, Sessions can order a subordinate to convene a grand jury and seek indictment against Hillary. But, I suppose the failure of such a thing to occur really just proves that Obama's jedi mind tricks have overpowered Sessions himself.




Of course, the real reason that we're suddenly hearing a lot about Hillary from a certain contingent is because Mueller's investigation is turning up actual crimes, resulting in actual indictments and a guilty plea.
 
Mr Person said:
It really is truly moronic.

At literally any time within the applicable statutes of limitation, Sessions can order a subordinate to convene a grand jury and seek indictment against Hillary. But, I suppose the failure of such a thing to occur really just proves that Obama's jedi mind tricks have overpowered Sessions himself.




Of course, the real reason that we're suddenly hearing a lot about Hillary from a certain contingent is because Mueller's investigation is turning up actual crimes, resulting in actual indictments and a guilty plea.
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That's IT!!!! Obama is a Jedi!!! Haha! Yeah when it's too difficult to defend Trump, the fall back is to bring up Hillary and Obama.

Trump and the Trumplings find themselves in a bit of a sticky wicket at the moment. Mueller has aligned himself with some very competent law enforcement and justice system allies, and he's an intelligent investigator. I don't think anyone actually thought about the fact that Mueller doesn't have to get these people on actual collusion with Russia to bring them down. Mueller is picking them off like flies. We will see more charges and more plea bargains before this is over. If Trump is dirty, on anything, Mueller will hit him with it.
 
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