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Invoking the specter of Nazi Germany, Obama warns against complacency[W:137]

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Somerville said:
Are you really believing that President Obama called ALL American citizens "nazis"? That is sad.

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Are you denying that there are SOME Americans who are openly Nazi?
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A very very few. It's the same handful at evrery rally. the media fools you into believing they are a much bigger threat than they are.

bunch of jackoffs in the woods who couldn't hack the scouts as kids.
 
Somerville said:
This should provoke some interesting comments. Former President Obama noted parallels between 1930s Germany and present-day America



Funny how some continue to believe that the black guy really hated America and that his entire time in office was spent trying to destroy the nation.



We are beginning to see media consolidation and even cases where a One Percenter has bought a media outlet and then shut it down without warning to employees. But really, who cares? It's all Fake News anyway, amirite?
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Obama spent 8 years attacking and sometimes outright boycotting Fox News. He implemented control of the internet, pushed for hate speech laws, and the fairness doctrine. Under Obama, the IRS persecuted those with opposing viewpoints. Democrats did and regularly do use their position of power to demonize private citizens and political opponents. Trump may be bad in a different way, but Obama shouldnt be giving lectures on freedom.

Furthermore, Obama is proof that authoritarians in the US last only as long as term limits do. Thats why the govt was designed to have checks and balances, separation of powers, federalism. No one person can dominate unless we keep giving them more power as liberals want.
 
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Tanngrisnir said:
^^^ This guy is running away, yet again.
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seriously, why are you even here. you never post on the topic, and you make cowardly quips at people all day long on the internet. Are you this bratty in person? (probably not). come on man, post something of substance, just once.


Or please stop quoting me, desperately trying to get me to respond.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
seriously, why are you even here. you never post on the topic, and you make cowardly quips at people all day long on the internet. Are you this bratty in person? (probably not). come on man, post something of substance, just once.
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Yawn. Seriously, why lie about my posting history in order to distract from this exchange here and your inability to stand being called out? You whine about this all the time but have never once backed it up.
Or please stop quoting me, desperately trying to get me to respond.
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Please stop pretending to yourself that anyone who corrects your bull**** is 'desperate'. Or keep living your life of fantasy, if it makes you feel better.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Yawn. Seriously, why lie about my posting history in order to distract from this exchange here and your inability to stand being called out? You whine about this all the time but have never once backed it up.

Please stop pretending to yourself that anyone who corrects your bull**** is 'desperate'. Or keep living your life of fantasy, if it makes you feel better.
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blah blah blah.
 
Somerville said:
Are you really believing that President Obama called ALL American citizens "nazis"? That is sad.

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Are you denying that there are SOME Americans who are openly Nazi?
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Don't give traitors their legitimacy. These aren't Nazis. Nazi stands for National Socialism. Despite Hitler's quest to differentiate it from Communism and Capitalism, it amounts to the same sense of government controlled economy (communism), but with capitalism focusing on the good of the state instead of existing largely as a free private market. And what does pretty much anybody on the Right think about words like socialism or communism?

That picture presents a frumpy group of uneducated wannabes who don't even know what a Nazi is and desecrates the American flag as a show of their heightened ignorance. They merely like the racial and nationalist aspect. Hitler would relegate them to cleaning his toilets. They are weak minded idiots and their choice to belong to what really only amounts to a sad social club, that merely borrows from a foreign enemy's past, proves that they only have the mind capacity of a sheep.

One can draw comparisons to the Nazi German mood of the 1930s and today's mood found in America. But Obama goes too far. The U.S. is not in danger of becoming Nazi Germany. Our socioeconomic system prevents a fascist system. Besides, there are too many smart people in the country for that to happen. Trump's embarrassing buffoonery will last another three years and he will be gone. And the dip****tery who pat his ass will wither away. Hopefully, the GOP figures this out and cuts the cord so they can present a proper Republican representative to compete against whatever the Democrats do.
 
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Manc Skipper said:
Trump heads an authoritarian rightwing nationalist corporatist government which cares motre about winning than democracy. Sounds like 1930's Germany to me...
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Sounds like yuo are a typical liberal who has never read a history book.
You don't even have to read- Hitler's been ont History channle a million friggin times.

Pop Quiz- How many people did the Nazi's exterminate? How many has Trump? ( ok -I'll give away the second answer-ZERO)
 
jonny5 said:
Obama spent 8 years attacking and sometimes outright boycotting Fox News. He implemented control of the internet, pushed for hate speech laws, and the fairness doctrine. Under Obama, the IRS persecuted those with opposing viewpoints. Democrats did and regularly do use their position of power to demonize private citizens and political opponents. Trump may be bad in a different way, but Obama shouldnt be giving lectures on freedom.

Furthermore, Obama is proof that authoritarians in the US last only as long as term limits do. Thats why the govt was designed to have checks and balances, separation of powers, federalism. No one person can dominate unless we keep giving them more power as liberals want.
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You have a very poor memory.

Also, your definition of "authoritarian" is a bit odd, as in every other actual instance of an authoritarian taking control of a government, they did not walk away willingly from the seat of power.

Republicans did and regularly do use their position of power to demonize private citizens and political opponents. All we have to do is look at the attacks on the women who have accused Trump and Roy Moore of sexual assault.

The only organisations penalised by the IRS were actually liberal ones; yes, conservative groups were investigated but none of them had to pay a fine or shut down over violations of tax laws.

Seriously, you are trying to compare Obama's comments about Fox News with Trump's rants about the "fake news" media? That is denial to the nth degree.
 
KLATTU said:
Sounds like yuo are a typical liberal who has never read a history book.
You don't even have to read- Hitler's been ont History channle a million friggin times.

Pop Quiz- How many people did the Nazi's exterminate? How many has Trump? ( ok -I'll give away the second answer-ZERO)
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So, in your view, all of those killed by the American military since January 21 were terrorists who deserved to die - not a single innocent died in any attack by drone, artillery, bomb or special forces assault?

Donald Trump's first US military raid 'kills 30 civilians, including 10 women and children'
 
Somerville said:
So, in your view, all of those killed by the American military since January 21 were terrorists who deserved to die - not a single innocent died in any attack by drone, artillery, bomb or special forces assault?

Donald Trump's first US military raid 'kills 30 civilians, including 10 women and children'
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SMH. So you're equating that with the holocaust?

That was clearly NOT a targeted extermination of a group of people because of their religion.
That was civilian casulaties resulting from an act of war which has happened in every war from the beginning of time everywhere.Including when Barack Obam was President.(I guess by moonbat logic that qualifies him as a Nazi as well)

YEESH.





OY vey.
 
Somerville said:
Nope.
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Ok I'll try to expain.
At Fox and Fox News, 10 percent of the claims PunditFact has rated have been True, 11 percent Mostly True, 18 percent Half True, 21 percent Mostly False, 31 percent False and nine percent Pants on Fire.

That means about 60 percent of the claims checked have been rated Mostly False or worse. Here’s how it breaks down (as of Jan. 27, 2015):

Se it yet?

So they subjectively determine which claims to ceheck ( not to mention subjectivley determine which are lies)

Here let Kevin Williamson explain it .

| National Review

Now that title is 100% accurate. LAFFRIOT!


The “study” from PunditFact (a subdivision of PolitiFact), which is not really a study, says no such thing. You do not have to rely on my word for that: PunditFact itself warns against using its figures “to draw broad conclusions,” e.g. that Fox News lies “like all the time.” (Like, is this like a 1980s Valley-girl movie, or are you just, like, functionally illiterate?) That is because the study is an exercise in drawing nonsensical conclusions from arbitrary data. The most obvious problem — though certainly not the only problem, not even close — is selection bias: PolitiFact is a readership-driven online publication, and thus it exercises a great deal of discretion about which statements it chooses to evaluate and why.
 
Trump doesn't have nearly the intellectual capability to be accurately compared with Adolf Hitler, or most Nazi/Fascist officials for that matter. Trump's more like those Central American dictatorships working for the United Fruit Company in the Cold War than Nazi Germany. Godwin's Law, Obama - look it up.
 
Kal'Stang said:
:roll: The free press is still around and not one single bill/act/regulation is on the table to minimize it. Why is it that so many keep trying to claim that the free press is being threatened? Because Trump keeps badmouthing them? Wah. He is a citizen of the US and as such has every right to badmouth them and even wish that certain laws were in place to curtail them. But not once has he acted on such comments. The only ones that are suggesting that he "MIGHT" are Trump haters.

That said, yes, more Americans are being distrustful of the media. And for good reason. They have gone ape**** over their hatred of Trump. I doubt that you could find a single article about Trump from CNN or WaPo or the NYT that doesn't have some sort of innuendo in it, unless of course the article is about 2 maybe 3 short paragraphs long....then you might not. Most of the other media isn't quite as bad as those three, but their bias is still quite evident. The media really does need to get back to reporting facts and leaving the bias innuendo out of their articles.
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Yes keep supporting Trump when he violates his oath to uphold the Constitution. That is what Hitler's supporters did too. That is what Obama is saying. It is not that Trump is like Hitler it is his supporters that remind us of the rise of Hitler. Prove him wrong if you dare and demand accountability from your President and call out his lies.
 
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The only true resemblance I see to Nazi Germany is how we look back on the German people...like they were cowardly sheep, idiots, 'how could they have been so stupid?"

And that that is how the world and future generations of Americans will look back on the travesty of the 2016 election. That the Americans at the time were idiots...and now we're all tarred with those feathers.


(And yes, I have read quite a bit on the rise of the Nazi party and pertaining history.)
 
Jesus Goddamn Christ, does nobody understand how the Third Reich rose?

Anyone who thinks the Nazis could rise to power in America is deluded or horribly misinformed. The Nazis came into power at a time when it was generally accepted by most Germans that nonwhites were subhumans, on a wave of poverty and violence between the far left and the far right, by dismantling an unstable, innefectual democracy that was hated by large portions of Germany's population.

America is the oldest federal republic in the world, and has proven to be quite stable. The Weimar Republic wasn't even old enough to vote when it crumbled under it's own systemic flaws - it lasted 15 years. America's government might change slowly, but our elected officials tend to stay in office to support their agenda for a long time. The Weimar Republic could barely keep the elected officials consistent for a year. America's population largely believes that democracy is good, and we have a government that was chosen by the people. The Weimar Republic was designed by the Allied Powers, and foisted upon an authoritarian population that voted for a monarchist general to be President at the first opportunity.

The Nazis could not possibly have come into power without having a message that resonated with the majority of the people, a government that couldn't even stand on it's own merits, and a credible threat to the German way of life in the form of a large communist party that engaged in frequent violence. America has proven that our government can stand on it's own merits, our people are neither eugenicists nor authoritarianss on any particularly large scale, Antifa is a goddamn joke, and less than 0.1% of our population buy into a failed ideology that has not existed in a single governing body in over 70 years.

Here, this ****ty little video is a good place to start learning about the Weimar Republic and how it's abject retardation helped Hitler come into power.

 
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Somerville said:
This should provoke some interesting comments. Former President Obama noted parallels between 1930s Germany and present-day America

Funny how some continue to believe that the black guy really hated America and that his entire time in office was spent trying to destroy the nation.

We are beginning to see media consolidation and even cases where a One Percenter has bought a media outlet and then shut it down without warning to employees. But really, who cares? It's all Fake News anyway, amirite?
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Had we had an aggressive, honest, free press... Obama would have been nowhere near the presidency. With his racist Wright, terrorists Ayers & Dohrn, Commi Frank Marshall Davis, Rezko, and his utter lack of accomplishments... if he were white, he’d have been laughed off the podium. A Democrat VP candidate, Geraldine Ferraro voiced a similar sentiment in 08.

She was right. After 8-years, Obama has produced a record of incompetence, and division.

Bill Clinton, with an honest press, wouldn’t have been president either.

But it’s good to be a Democrat. The Goebbels Insprired Media Propagandists (GIMPs) will run cover for you if you’re one of them. They’ve been doing it for decades. Howard Fineman revealed it was in the 60’s when the GIMPs took sides (he calls them the AMMP (American Mainstream Media Party).

The problem was that, once the AMMP declared its existence by taking sides, there was no going back...

It was not accident that the birth coincided with an identity crisis in the Democratic Party. The ideological energy of the New Deal had faded; Vietnam and various social revolutions of the ’60s were tearing it apart. Into the vacuum came the AMMP, which became the new forum for choosing Democratic candidates.

Fineman: 'Mainstream Media Party' is over - politics - Howard Fineman | NBC News
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Not just choosing them, but propagandizing for them aggressively in the general election.
 
Lursa said:
The only true resemblance I see to Nazi Germany is how we look back on the German people...like they were cowardly sheep, idiots, 'how could they have been so stupid?"

And that that is how the world and future generations of Americans will look back on the travesty of the 2016 election. That the Americans at the time were idiots...and now we're all tarred with those feathers.


(And yes, I have read quite a bit on the rise of the Nazi party and pertaining history.)
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Americans were fed up with 8-years of failure. Hillary was Obama’s 3rd term. She lost 306 -232.

That Commicrat’s loss was a great day for America.

You would have read then about a chap named Neville Chamberlain. He somewhat resembled a certain Barack Hussein Obama.

The guy who drew red lines and cowered... making our enemies laugh and allies cringe. The guy who called ISIS a JV Team (which Mattis has vanquished in 10-months).

Obama... the guy who made deals with Iran and Cuba... not even Chamberlain would have been stupid enough to make.

PS. Keep reading.
 
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KLATTU said:
Sounds like yuo are a typical liberal who has never read a history book.
You don't even have to read- Hitler's been ont History channle a million friggin times.

Pop Quiz- How many people did the Nazi's exterminate? How many has Trump? ( ok -I'll give away the second answer-ZERO)
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BUT... Obama did target Americans, he had a “hit list” and did take Americans out without a trial. Just droned them to itty bitty pieces.

Think if Trump did that?

Can you imagine the headlines?

Can you imagine what our Leftist friends here would be saying?

The comparisons to Hitler?

When the New York Times back in April, 2010 first confirmed the existence of Obama's hit list, it made clear just what an extremist power this is, noting: "It is extremely rare, if not unprecedented, for an American to be approved for targeted killing."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/feb/05/obama-kill-list-doj-memo
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