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    Re: The Infantilization of the President

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckiechan View Post
    You apparently didn't appreciate the direction of the country when Obama, Bush, and Clinton were president.

    They collectively have presided over the destruction of US industry due to ignoring the foul play of China
    They accepted China's status quo and let North Korea become a nuclear threat because their business interests want cheap products.
    They have allowed illegal immigration to change the country's demographic - democrats say to "control inflation", republicans say "for cheap labor". You say "Why don't I get raises anymore?"
    They have presided over the ballooning of the national debt to ~ $20 trillion
    They have allowed the big data companies to completely profile every person in the country who isn't living under a bridge into "targeted advertising" and "profile data" which they peddle.
    They have turned congress into a country club financed by the beneficiaries of the problems listed above.

    Sometimes you need a crude, nasty, person who is not awed by the trappings of office to tell you the truth: "You have been getting ****ed for thirty years, and the MSM is their partner!"

    We have become morally corrupt to the core, struggling to have two political parties in a country now that wants ten because everyone is out for their little piece of the pie before it all goes to hell.

    So where they hell have you been?
    Well maybe they'll find something else...After all the goal is bring trump down....By any means neccessary
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    Re: The Infantilization of the President

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Okay, fair enough. So, you think Ronald Reagan was a socialist, and I, who thinks he was a conservative, am the ignorant one. I've got nothing to add here...

    Your Honor, I'm done with this guy.
    Ronny Ray-Gun was an actor (I was gonna say "pimp" but thought better of it since I'm new here...). If he had ever had an individual thought in his life, it would have rattled in his head. At least they got him to perfect that Howdy-Doody image. And some of his ideas about entitlements were liberal.

    "Liberal / Conservative"...they mean nothing except to serve as "coat hangers".
    Just like "Alt-Right / Alt-Left". They mean nothing, once you examine the actions and proclamations of each.
    They're names...nothing more. Governmental policy is bought. Public opinion is too.
    We have degraded to the point where the political discourse in the US and Europe (Canuckland to some degree too now) has been hijacked by the blessed alt-right and alt-left. Both of which are anarchists. Neither of which are palatable.

    But Reagan was simply an actor...just like "Donny-Boy" in many ways.

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    Re: The Infantilization of the President

    Quote Originally Posted by vash1012 View Post
    Well you are certainly Trump's target audience. I don't think criticizing a government during a time of really low popularity makes you a good President. He might be right that the trade offs that we made to increase trade fell hardest on the working class, but he has a fixation on the most basic, simplistic "solutions" which won't help and will probably hurt. Guess what? Repealing trade deals are also going to fall hardest on the working class because they are most sensitive to price increases of goods we import and their jobs will NOT come back. This is a fact. He might be right that past President's allowed NK to get to where they are today with a nuclear program, but war wasn't worth the cost then when they didn't have a nuclear capability and it CERTAINLY isn't now, which all our military advisers and state dept. members are saying, but he is tweeting out declarations of war.

    You are complaining about debt while advocating for a President who is planning to cut taxes significantly, increase defense spending without cutting Medicare or SS, and spend 1 trillion dollars on infrastructure projects? Seriously, do you listen to yourself? There's plenty you can say about the way Bush spent money on failed tax cuts for the wealthy, Medicare Part D without any funding, and multiple wars of little value, as well as Obama, but acting like Trump is any kind of advocate for reducing debt is ridiculous.

    You might like his criticisms and thats fine, but hes a bad President. Maybe hes the one we deserve right now for our complacency over the last 3 decades, but he is not the one we need.
    So in a nutshell, you are saying we are trapped, and should not try to change course for the sake of the next generation?
    The media has lost it's mandate to report honestly. Should they improve or go away?
    If everyone had a bull**** meter, would it be as much fun?
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    Re: The Infantilization of the President

    Quote Originally Posted by vash1012 View Post
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...sident/542613/

    "Trumpís childish behavior was worrying when it involved belittling his opponents, discussing his genitalia, or taking swipes at former Miss Universe Alicia Machado, but it takes on a new level of danger when it affects U.S. military policy, from Iran to North Korea to the nuclear arsenal. Thereís a powerful, perhaps too powerful, urge to seek historical analogues for Trump, but seldom has there been a president whose own loyalists and insiders were so dismissive of his maturity, judgment, and prudence. So how does the presidency work when the presidentís aides treat him like a child? The immediate answer is, not very well. The longer-term answers are murkier and scarier."

    Accurate.

    Trump's "ideas" are not all inherently bad, but most are bad because they come from a man who is inconsiderate, ill informed, and impulsive. He's a terrible, terrible president.
    I think his ideas are inherently bad. Some are particularly clueless like suggesting we should increase the size of the nuclear arsenal.
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    Re: The Infantilization of the President

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Okay, fair enough. So, you think Ronald Reagan was a socialist, and I, who thinks he was a conservative, am the ignorant one. I've got nothing to add here...

    Your Honor, I'm done with this guy.
    Good call.
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    Re: The Infantilization of the President

    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz62 View Post
    Ronny Ray-Gun was an actor (I was gonna say "pimp" but thought better of it since I'm new here...). If he had ever had an individual thought in his life, it would have rattled in his head. At least they got him to perfect that Howdy-Doody image. And some of his ideas about entitlements were liberal.

    "Liberal / Conservative"...they mean nothing except to serve as "coat hangers".
    Just like "Alt-Right / Alt-Left". They mean nothing, once you examine the actions and proclamations of each.
    They're names...nothing more. Governmental policy is bought. Public opinion is too.
    We have degraded to the point where the political discourse in the US and Europe (Canuckland to some degree too now) has been hijacked by the blessed alt-right and alt-left. Both of which are anarchists. Neither of which are palatable.

    But Reagan was simply an actor...just like "Donny-Boy" in many ways.
    Well, not to sure what point you are trying to make, other than to ignore Reagan's political career, which far outshines his acting career by a mile.

    There are no pure conservatives, liberals, Marxists, or socialists. Once in office, they end up adapting to get what they want, and they end up doing things that they really don't want to do, in order to get the important things done.
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    Re: The Infantilization of the President

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Well, not to sure what point you are trying to make, other than to ignore Reagan's political career, which far outshines his acting career by a mile.

    There are no pure conservatives, liberals, Marxists, or socialists. Once in office, they end up adapting to get what they want, and they end up doing things that they really don't want to do, in order to get the important things done.
    I think his acting career never ended. He was a "face man".
    But that's likely true of most presidents of the last 50 years or so.
    IMO Carter may have been the last president who actually represented the public.
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    Re: The Infantilization of the President

    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz62 View Post
    I think his acting career never ended. He was a "face man".
    But that's likely true of most presidents of the last 50 years or so.
    IMO Carter may have been the last president who actually represented the public.
    I care more about what they got done, did they uphold the Constitution and our freedoms? That sort of thing.
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    Re: The Infantilization of the President

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I care more about what they got done, did they uphold the Constitution and our freedoms? That sort of thing.
    Oh ok. My misunderstanding.
    Ya, I'd have to say that, for the most part, the presidents have all done their best at that.
    "Donny-Boy" is going to have a tough go of it, in this respect though.
    First of all, he's not the most eloquent person on the planet, and secondly, most of the MSM is at war with him. I can't even watch CNN anymore because quite frankly...I don't like "cry-babies".

    I would offer a piece of advise though, if I may be so bold, as a Canuck.
    Your gun laws pose a HUGE danger to your republic right now.
    I've looked into what Antifa and BLM do and propose.
    To the east, Europe is in crisis over this refugee thing, and the Arab world is a mess.
    To the west, North Korea is...lead by a fool who likes to play with his toy missiles.
    Internal conflict would likely take Donny's eye off the global ball.

    Perhaps...and I'm just thinking out loud now...a formal declaration of war somewhere, might relieve some of the pressure building up within the USA?
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    Re: The Infantilization of the President

    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz62 View Post
    I would offer a piece of advise though, if I may be so bold, as a Canuck.
    Your gun laws pose a HUGE danger to your republic right now...

    Perhaps...and I'm just thinking out loud now...a formal declaration of war somewhere, might relieve some of the pressure building up within the USA?
    Yeah, sure. How about Canada?

    But seriously, what kind of gun laws do you think we should have to alleviate the danger to the republic? And what do you mean by the republic? The government?
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