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Folsom School Warns ‘USA’ Chant Could Send ‘Unintended Message’

Tanngrisnir said:
I know you desperately need to believe that, but that's not what I'm doing, and I'm not assuming that. Your dishonesty simply exposes your ignorance and demonstrates my claim about your lack of interest in rational discussion.

I've already shown that they're not close to each other in meaning. You simply don't accept that. Oh, well. I'm not here to educate you.

Keep pretending and stomping your feet, but it won't make any difference.
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Lmao! The word's are not close to each other? Then why does Merriam Webster list them as synonyms of each other?



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Sweden said:
Absolutely! Why can't they chant something non-controversial. An-Ti-Fa! An-Ti-Fa! would sound good.
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(chuckle)

Yeah, I'd go along with that.

The bell tolls for those guys anyway, and none too soon for me.
 
Athanasius68 said:
A nationalist can be a patriot. A patriot doesn't need to be a nationalist.
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You have it backwards: a nationalists doesn't need to be a patriot. A patriot is a nationalist. Black Panthers are nationalists, but they aren't patriots, because they don't want to be a part of The United States.

But, American nationalism and American patriotism are the same thing. You can't have one without the other.
 
apdst said:
You have it backwards: a nationalists doesn't need to be a patriot. A patriot is a nationalist. Black Panthers are nationalists, but they aren't patriots, because they don't want to be a part of The United States.

But, American nationalism and American patriotism are the same thing. You can't have one without the other.
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Right. A nationalist, depending upon which nation, can often have trouble being a patriot as that nationalism can often call into question that purpose of the countries existence--- the black panthers.
But a patriot can celebrate a diversity of different types of people in a particular country.
 
jet57 said:
It shouldn't piss you off. The reason for the caution is that the county is at polar opposites these days and "nationalism"; note I didn't say patriotism is part of the far right agenda and that can mean trouble. So for now at least I think it's a good idea.
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It is certainly true that love of country only comes from the right, the left hates the US and the west in general, they are 5th columnist traitors.
 
Athanasius68 said:
Right. A nationalist, depending upon which nation, can often have trouble being a patriot as that nationalism can often call into question that purpose of the countries existence--- the black panthers.
But a patriot can celebrate a diversity of different types of people in a particular country.
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And, some people hate their country and try to claim they're patriots. It's what happens when people start trying to redefine words.
 
Patriots love their country, Nationalists hate everyone elses.
 
OlNate said:
Actually, you raise a very good point. If both sides cheer for the same thing ("USA"), isn't that like cheering for both sides? This kind of thinking is what leads to participation trophies, screw that, man!!!

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Going way back in my way back machine, I think the USA chants started with predominantly Mexican teams playing predominantly all white teams and waving Mexican flags. Thus the retort.
 
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