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    Re: Amazon is looking for a 2nd headquarter city, a 'full equal to Seattle'

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Been a long time, and ya, Rideshare, Uber ect and self driving cars very well might negate any need to reform the rail system to match how the city and burbs are laid out now. However even in the last year I have read transit "experts" talking about the need to reform Chicago transit, but being pessimistic that it will happen.

    EDIT: SEP 2014:


    Study criticizes Chicago transit system - Chicago Tribune
    Thanks for that link.

    It mentions possible inter-agency problems leading to future problems, but doesn't seem to say there's a current problem. But I won't deny Chicago has political and bureaucratic waste!

    But here's something interesting I recently saw:

    Rahm Emanuel: In Chicago, the Trains Actually Run on Time
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    Re: Amazon is looking for a 2nd headquarter city, a 'full equal to Seattle'

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    Interesting, I vaguely remember hearing about this. But other states and cities Amazon is considering do indeed have even higher taxes.

    So did the measure get struck down? The article only mentions it is being challenged.
    I believe it has, and Washington remains a no income tax state. People voted down the law because they saw it as the first step toward state income tax.

    They might approach it from a different angle, like property tax on commercial buildings over a certain square footage.
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    Re: Amazon is looking for a 2nd headquarter city, a 'full equal to Seattle'

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    There business model is based on reinvesting everything back into the business. Their warehouses are brutally efficient places. Costs are low because they have potentially the most efficient logistic model in the business of retail
    the focus IS customer service
    no matter what it is they sell, customer service is paramount
    that is what truly sets this company apart from the competition
    https://www.salesforce.com/blog/2013...s-lessons.html
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottda.../#77c470a23cd5
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Amazon is looking for a 2nd headquarter city, a 'full equal to Seattle'

    It is clear to me that Amazon made no attempt to talk to Washington or Seattle leaders.

    Not even a heads up the day before the announcement.

    I find this to be a ****ty way to operate.

    But this is AMAZON.







    Geekwire: Washington Gov. Jay Inslee says state is talking with Amazon about ?HQ2' implications | KING5.com
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    Re: Amazon is looking for a 2nd headquarter city, a 'full equal to Seattle'

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    It is clear to me that Amazon made no attempt to talk to Washington or Seattle leaders.

    Not even a heads up the day before the announcement.

    I find this to be a ****ty way to operate.

    But this is AMAZON.
    Amazon doesn't owe anything to Seattle or Washington leadership. The state and in particular the City has become extremely hostile toward business, with one Marxist radical on the Council in particular that is extremely, extremely hostile toward business, and Amazon in particular. She has called for workers to overtake Amazon and turn it into a democratically worker-controlled enterprise. She has insinuated Amazon is to blame for Seattle's homelessness. The state recently imposed mandatory paid family leave, the City passed an illegal "tax the rich" income tax, and now Sawant acuses Amazon of "holding us hostage" by being willing to leave.

    Seattle is electing insane Marxists to lead the community, and they are completely and entirely attacking their very own economic backbone with this psychotically anti-business policies and rhetoric.

    Even if you agree with Marxism, you're an idiot if you think it can be implemented on a municipal level without encouraging a downward spiral of capital flight. And Sawant, allegedly being an economics PhD, should certainly know better. All her Marxist rhetoric is moronic given that she's affecting city policy, not national and international policy. Even the most liberal of Seattleites who love Sawant should vote her the hell out if they have half a brain, because she is incurring maximum damage to the city with her half-cocked Marxism.
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    Re: Amazon is looking for a 2nd headquarter city, a 'full equal to Seattle'

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Amazon doesn't owe anything to Seattle or Washington leadership. The state and in particular the City has become extremely hostile toward business, with one Marxist radical on the Council in particular that is extremely, extremely hostile toward business, and Amazon in particular. She has called for workers to overtake Amazon and turn it into a democratically worker-controlled enterprise. She has insinuated Amazon is to blame for Seattle's homelessness. The state recently imposed mandatory paid family leave, the City passed an illegal "tax the rich" income tax, and now Sawant acuses Amazon of "holding us hostage" by being willing to leave.

    Seattle is electing insane Marxists to lead the community, and they are completely and entirely attacking their very own economic backbone with this psychotically anti-business policies and rhetoric.

    Even if you agree with Marxism, you're an idiot if you think it can be implemented on a municipal level without encouraging a downward spiral of capital flight. And Sawant, allegedly being an economics PhD, should certainly know better. All her Marxist rhetoric is moronic given that she's affecting city policy, not national and international policy. Even the most liberal of Seattleites who love Sawant should vote her the hell out if they have half a brain, because she is incurring maximum damage to the city with her half-cocked Marxism.
    Look, I live here and I have my wits still, No Alzheimer's Yet! Sir...I know that power looked at Amazon and saw their winning lottery ticket and that they did not think that they needed to do anything much to keep it....I was just talking to Chomski about how badly these assholes suck generally, though we were talking about quality of life declines in Seattle driven by Hubris and general incompetence.

    This does not excuse Amazon.
    Last edited by Hawkeye10; 09-13-17 at 08:39 PM.
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    Re: Amazon is looking for a 2nd headquarter city, a 'full equal to Seattle'

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Look, I live here and I have my wits still, No Alzheimer's Yet! Sir...I know that power looked at Amazon and saw their winning lottery ticket and that they did not think that they needed to do anything much to keep it....
    Power looked at Amazon? What do you mean?

    I was just talking to Chomski about how badly these assholes suck generally, though we were talking about quality of life declines in Seattle driven by Hubris and general incompetence.
    This is also vague. Which assholes? Whose incompetence?

    This does not excuse Amazon.
    If I were Amazon, seeing some of the things city leadership has said about the company and some of the policies they have been pushing, I would quietly plan my exit too, and would see zero point keeping lines of communication open with city leadership. Zero. They are hostile anti-business ideologues, Sawant in particular. This is a no brainer. Capital is mobile. Talent is mobile. Shaming big business who is leaving your area because you are an asshole just makes you more of an asshole, and reveals you failed to consider or plan for the risks of capital flight associated with pushing Marxist policy on a municipal level.

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    Re: Amazon is looking for a 2nd headquarter city, a 'full equal to Seattle'

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Power looked at Amazon? What do you mean?



    This is also vague. Which assholes? Whose incompetence?



    If I were Amazon, seeing some of the things city leadership has said about the company and some of the policies they have been pushing, I would quietly plan my exit too, and would see zero point keeping lines of communication open with city leadership. Zero. They are hostile anti-business ideologues, Sawant in particular. This is a no brainer. Capital is mobile. Talent is mobile. Shaming big business who is leaving your area because you are an asshole just makes you more of an asshole, and reveals you failed to consider or plan for the risks of capital flight associated with pushing Marxist policy on a municipal level.
    Its not like they could possibly learn from Boeing taking away the HQ, and now the jobs too, maybe down to nothing.....they looked, they took note, and they left.
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    Re: Amazon is looking for a 2nd headquarter city, a 'full equal to Seattle'

    An obscure accounting rule changes everything

    An obscure shift in how technology companies account for profits will accelerate this migration to the center of the country. It sounds small, but it will change the face of a dozen American cities. In May 2016, Amazon and Facebook announced that stock-based compensation would be fully accounted for in all their reports on profits, for all of their businesses. Google followed suit this January. A month ago, Redfin was one of the first technology IPOs in memory to take this approach from the start.

    For years, investors looked the other way when tech companies paid an engineer a few hundred thousand dollars in salary and a few million dollars in stock. Companies would still report their earnings in the time-honored way, including the cost of the stock paid to employees, but would focus investors on a metric of their own invention, “adjusted EBITDA,” which didn’t count the stock. That, everyone agreed, was the real measure of a company’s profits.

    Except it wasn’t. If you’re thinking that it makes no sense that a software engineer would immediately recognize the value of getting a million dollars in stock when a Wall Street investor didn’t, you’re right. It never made any sense. But that is exactly what happened.

    Every bubble is fueled by funny money

    And of course, this stock was the only way most employees could afford to live in a town like San Francisco or, increasingly, Seattle.
    https://venturebeat.com/2017/09/11/a...ime-to-expand/

    Ya, that makes some sense dont it....People cant sell the stock right away but I think they can borrow against it, and it make them feel richer, especially of they believe in the company, dont think that the stock value will tank.

    Amazon will turn a red state a bit blue, and that state will turn Amazon a bit red. The riches of Seattle will come to a new town, bringing with it a few problems, but many more wonders. Nothing could be better for America.
    That's what I suggested at the Jump...Amazon is going to go to a Southern or Mid America Red State. I say it should be Kansas City Mo.
    Last edited by Hawkeye10; 09-15-17 at 02:24 PM.
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