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“Hung from a tall tree”: Second Republican calls for lynching critics of white suprem

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Have you ever watched any Westerns?

Have you ever heard about the KKK lynchings in deep south?
 
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Critics demand Missouri lawmaker resign after saying vandals should be 'hung from a tall tree with a long rope' | Political Fix | stltoday.com

Missouri lawmaker posts hope that monument vandal be 'hung' | Nation | stltoday.com



So over the past few weeks there have been many arguments about how antifa are just as bad as white supremacists. Many of the equivocations point to the fact that both are just fringe extremist groups.

Aside from the fact that we have seen many Charlottesville marchers associating with Republican senators, we now get actual sitting representatives ultimately calling for the lynching of those who would deface statues. Maybe you disagree, but to me, calling for lynchings in Missouri carries certain race connotations with it. As the article states, it's a terrorist act specifically associated with white supremacists and the KKK.

Of course, he 'denies' that's what he meant.



But the issue still remains - this kind of sentiment, the sentiment that I would expect from white supremacists, is something that pervades American society at every level to a far greater degree than the rhetoric of antifa. This is exactly why the threat posed to Americans by white supremacist far outweigh the threat posed by Antifa or BLM. There exist people in power structures who hold biases that align with those of white supremacy.

To add, I don't think there is an excuse for violence but this is also a key reason why those who try to fight oppression often turn to violence. It's much harder for a group like BLM to make change within the confines of the law when there are people like this who help control the law.

Of course, this is simply the actions of one man, but it's one man who holds a fair amount of power, and it's indicative of a far more deep rooted problem.

I would say that certain people look for things to be racial in nature. It's the way they lean.
 
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Have you ever heard about the KKK lynchings in deep south?

Like Missouri?
 
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Like Missouri?

yes.. Did you know, when it comes to the number of recorded lynchings , Missouri is the second worse offender?
 
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Have you ever heard about the KKK lynchings in deep south?

Sure. Those are the things the comment didn't refer to.
 
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yep. This one is a line well crossed over. Dood should be an ex representative. So should the ****head that called for Trumps assassination.
 
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And what point would that be Nilly? I am waiting with baited breath. I mean you could have just told me, but you would rather play games.

Still no reply? Still trying to figure out what to make of that video? Because as it stands it is truly pointless. Much like the argument you tried to make.

I was out for labor day weekend.

The point is that you have a man here (in my video, not the OP) who claims that what he wants to do isn't racist, and probably by extension that he himself isn't racist, but then goes ahead and refers to MLK as Martin Luther Coon.

The video wasn't meant to be an example of racism. It was meant to be an example of the cognitive dissonance in America today where people think something or someone isn't racist, or isn't affected by racist bias, but in actual fact they most definitely are. This was just a more obvious illustration than most.

Most people in threads about racism, left or right, can accept that some racism exists in America. There are racist individuals out there. What most people don't seem to understand is that there are things out there that can and should be perceived as race related, (like what the guy in OP did) but people like you refuse to accept as a racist thing.

The guy in my video did not think that what he was doing was a racist thing. But here's a thought for all the white people out there. And it might be a little difficult to swallow. Not everything is about you. Not everything is about what you think. Sometimes, what other people think of a statue, or of someone's words, are more important. Because those statues and words are/were focussed on the oppression of them. Not you. To go back to the statue issue, do you think that white people cared about what black people thought when they erected the statues of the people who enslaved their grandfathers? No. So why should black people care what white people think when they tear them down.

The reason I posted that video was to illustrate that point. Because you did the exact same thing. You may not think that what the guy in OP did is racist. Well get off your high horse. Your grandparents weren't lynched. Black people's grandparents were. So maybe the decision as to whether the guy in the OP did is racist/offensive or not belongs to those people. Not to you. And rather than moan and whine about people overreacting, maybe remember that how other people feel is pretty valid too, that these are related to some pretty ****ty things that happened, and respect that because of that, people can be genuinely offended and hurt even when you aren't.
 
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I was out for labor day weekend.

The point is that you have a man here (in my video, not the OP) who claims that what he wants to do isn't racist, and probably by extension that he himself isn't racist, but then goes ahead and refers to MLK as Martin Luther Coon.

He said nothing even close to the highlighted part. He did not even imply it. His point was it does not matter how anyone feels. Not that I agree with it, but you're desperately reaching.

The video wasn't meant to be an example of racism. It was meant to be an example of the cognitive dissonance in America today where people think something or someone isn't racist, or isn't affected by racist bias, but in actual fact they most definitely are. This was just a more obvious illustration than most.

He was obviously racist. So what disaconcience are you seeing? The one you made up?

Most people in threads about racism, left or right, can accept that some racism exists in America. There are racist individuals out there. What most people don't seem to understand is that there are things out there that can and should be perceived as race related, (like what the guy in OP did) but people like you refuse to accept as a racist thing.

Because saying hang em high is not a racist term. Just because lynchings happened, does not mean blacks have some kind monopoly on the term "Hung from a tall tree" in reference to vandals??? Who were mostly white no less? The only people making this about race are thin skinned progressive idiots who hate Trump.

The guy in my video did not think that what he was doing was a racist thing. But here's a thought for all the white people out there. And it might be a little difficult to swallow. Not everything is about you. Not everything is about what you think. Sometimes, what other people think of a statue, or of someone's words, are more important. Because those statues and words are/were focussed on the oppression of them. Not you. To go back to the statue issue, do you think that white people cared about what black people thought when they erected the statues of the people who enslaved their grandfathers? No. So why should black people care what white people think when they tear them down.

You can read minds now? You have no clue what he was thinking. So we can only go by what he said, period. Making up his motivations etc is just hogwash. The rest is just again thin skinned excuses for people getting bent by someone on the right saying "Hung from a tall tree." Then making it a bull**** partisan attack. What he said was out of line to some, but in the end NOT a big deal.

The reason I posted that video was to illustrate that point. Because you did the exact same thing. You may not think that what the guy in OP did is racist. Well get off your high horse. Your grandparents weren't lynched. Black people's grandparents were. So maybe the decision as to whether the guy in the OP did is racist/offensive or not belongs to those people. Not to you. And rather than moan and whine about people overreacting, maybe remember that how other people feel is pretty valid too, that these are related to some pretty ****ty things that happened, and respect that because of that, people can be genuinely offended and hurt even when you aren't.

So in other words it was whole lot of nothing but snowflakes getting there feeling hurt, just like I said.
 
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He said nothing even close to the highlighted part. He did not even imply it. His point was it does not matter how anyone feels. Not that I agree with it, but you're desperately reaching.

He was obviously racist. So what disaconcience are you seeing? The one you made up?

Because saying hang em high is not a racist term. Just because lynchings happened, does not mean blacks have some kind monopoly on the term "Hung from a tall tree" in reference to vandals??? Who were mostly white no less? The only people making this about race are thin skinned progressive idiots who hate Trump.

You can read minds now? You have no clue what he was thinking. So we can only go by what he said, period. Making up his motivations etc is just hogwash. The rest is just again thin skinned excuses for people getting bent by someone on the right saying "Hung from a tall tree." Then making it a bull**** partisan attack. What he said was out of line to some, but in the end NOT a big deal.

So in other words it was whole lot of nothing but snowflakes getting there feeling hurt, just like I said.

1. Video gut's very first words were "I don't believe it's a symbol of racism. I don't believe it's a symbol of slavery". I don't know whether he considers himself to be a racist or not but I largely suspect he wouldn't. Why? Because he's saying here that things aren't racist even though they clearly are. Why shouldn't i extrapolate that that applies to him?

2. Even many non-PC people in this very thread have said that man in OP's words crossed a line, and evoke racist imagery.
 
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1. Video gut's very first words were "I don't believe it's a symbol of racism. I don't believe it's a symbol of slavery". I don't know whether he considers himself to be a racist or not but I largely suspect he wouldn't. Why? Because he's saying here that things aren't racist even though they clearly are. Why shouldn't i extrapolate that that applies to him?

You can suspect all you want. The fact is you have no clue and are making things up.

2. Even many non-PC people in this very thread have said that man in OP's words crossed a line, and evoke racist imagery.

Oh no not the Appeal to Common Practice! The basic idea behind the fallacy is that the fact that most people do X is used as "evidence" to support the action or practice. It is a fallacy because the mere fact that most people do something does not make it correct, moral, justified, or reasonable.
 
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https://shareblue.com/hung-from-a-t...alls-for-lynching-critics-of-white-supremacy/

Critics demand Missouri lawmaker resign after saying vandals should be 'hung from a tall tree with a long rope' | Political Fix | stltoday.com

Missouri lawmaker posts hope that monument vandal be 'hung' | Nation | stltoday.com



So over the past few weeks there have been many arguments about how antifa are just as bad as white supremacists. Many of the equivocations point to the fact that both are just fringe extremist groups.

Aside from the fact that we have seen many Charlottesville marchers associating with Republican senators, we now get actual sitting representatives ultimately calling for the lynching of those who would deface statues. Maybe you disagree, but to me, calling for lynchings in Missouri carries certain race connotations with it. As the article states, it's a terrorist act specifically associated with white supremacists and the KKK.

Of course, he 'denies' that's what he meant.



But the issue still remains - this kind of sentiment, the sentiment that I would expect from white supremacists, is something that pervades American society at every level to a far greater degree than the rhetoric of antifa. This is exactly why the threat posed to Americans by white supremacist far outweigh the threat posed by Antifa or BLM. There exist people in power structures who hold biases that align with those of white supremacy.

To add, I don't think there is an excuse for violence but this is also a key reason why those who try to fight oppression often turn to violence. It's much harder for a group like BLM to make change within the confines of the law when there are people like this who help control the law.

Of course, this is simply the actions of one man, but it's one man who holds a fair amount of power, and it's indicative of a far more deep rooted problem.

He called for lynching? Countdown until a statue of him is erected in 3... 2... 1...
 
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Was it wrong for the guy to say that whoever is vandalizing and tearing down statues should be hung? Yes. He could have just left it at that it is wrong to tear down these statues. It was dumb to say. With that said, was he calling for a lynching? No. He was mad, and rightfully so. Taking down monuments like those without consent from the citizens (NOT THE RIOTERS AND PROTESTERS) of these towns is actually wrong. Just because people fought for the Confederates, it didn't mean they were racists. These statues don't even mean anything of the sort. Besides, it was the Democrat party that established the KKK, not the Republicans. So I find it funny how Democrats talk about white supremacy as a bad thing when they are actually the ones who instigated it.

By the way, the Charlottesville riot could have been avoided IF Antifa didn't show up. I hate to give these guys any sort of credit, but those white supremacists, neo-nazis, kkk, or whatever was there, did get permits legally to organize the rally they had. As morally wrong as their beliefs are and how wrong their message was, by law, they didn't do anything wrong. So these idiots could have been left alone and nothing would have happened. Then comes Antifa, stirring the pot and the riot began. 2 hate groups (yes Antifa is a hate group) clashing over a stupid statue. Afterwards, statutes were being torn down everywhere because some poor snowflakes got offended (even these statues have been up for many years, and no one ever complained about it).

To recap: The guy was wrong to put up that these people tearing down statues need to be hung. He was right saying taking down the statues is wrong. White supremacists and Antifa are both hate groups. Fun Fact: there was a poll not long ago (I believe the Washington Post or Campus Reform) with 1 in 5 college students saying it should be permitted to commit violence IF someone (anyone) disagrees with them on political and personal beliefs. Petty much anything they disagree with you on, you need your butt kicked badly, so anyone holding a rally or protest they disagree with need to be taken out. It sounds like the side that's all about peace, no war, love, tolerance, and everything rainbows, unicorns, and lollipop related, have a very violent streak in them. Kind of makes the guy who made the "hung" post seem weak in comparison. At least he's defended by his 1st Amendment rights to say it.
 
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So yes???

Also how does 'hang from tree with rope' not elicit associations to lynching??

You progressives need to lighten up and stop this ridiculous crap. It's a GD expression and unless you haven't reached adulthood, you damned well know it.



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You progressives need to lighten up and stop this ridiculous crap. It's a GD expression and unless you haven't reached adulthood, you damned well know it.



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See to you it might be an expression. To the people who's families and ancestors haven't been lynched it isn't.

You wouldn't joke about gas chambers in Germany, or to a jew. You don't joke about downs syndrome to a room full of disabled kids. You don't joke about lynching in a country that was built on black chattel slavery.
 
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See to you it might be an expression. To the people who's families and ancestors haven't been lynched it isn't.

You wouldn't joke about gas chambers in Germany, or to a jew. You don't joke about downs syndrome to a room full of disabled kids. You don't joke about lynching in a country that was built on black chattel slavery.

I'll say it again.... You all need to lighten up.

It's precisely this kind of obsessive political correctness that progressives like yourself have been shoving down everyone's throat, that contributed to the American people putting Donald Trump in the White House. You all just don't know when to quit with your political correctness BS, your identity politics, the non-stop playing of the race card, the attempts to silence free speech, obstructing any attempts to stop illegal immigration, and of course your latest crusade, the marginalization of anyone who's white and doesn't march in lock step with the your political agenda.

I would have thought that over the last 8 years seeing democrats lose the presidency, the house, the senate, a dozen governorship's, and over 1000 legislative seats nationwide, progressives like yourself would have at least some clue as to why, but it seems that you don't. You all apparently believe that people either have a misunderstanding of the progressive movement and it's vision for America, or think many are stubborn and need to be force fed it until they see the light. The fact is, you all have gone too far and don't know when to back off.

Over the last 8 years more and more people have seen first hand the progressive agenda and the damage it's doing. Many people, including myself, have simply had enough. The American people have seen how the PC agenda and use of identity politics has divided the country both socially and politically, by pitting women against men, liberals against conservatives, and blacks against whites, setting race relations in the country back 30 years. For a long time people like myself were complacent and said nothing, never believing that things would go this far... well they have, and it's time to put a stop to this crap before everyone ends up killing one another and the country ends up turning into a 3rd world ****hole.

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I'll say it again.... You all need to lighten up.

It's precisely this kind of obsessive political correctness that progressives like yourself have been shoving down everyone's throat, that contributed to the American people putting Donald Trump in the White House. You all just don't know when to quit with your political correctness BS, your identity politics, the non-stop playing of the race card, the attempts to silence free speech, obstructing any attempts to stop illegal immigration, and of course your latest crusade, the marginalization of anyone who's white and doesn't march in lock step with the your political agenda.

I would have thought that over the last 8 years seeing democrats lose the presidency, the house, the senate, a dozen governorship's, and over 1000 legislative seats nationwide, progressives like yourself would have at least some clue as to why, but it seems that you don't. You all apparently believe that people either have a misunderstanding of the progressive movement and it's vision for America, or think many are stubborn and need to be force fed it until they see the light. The fact is, you all have gone too far and don't know when to back off.

Over the last 8 years more and more people have seen first hand the progressive agenda and the damage it's doing. Many people, including myself, have simply had enough. The American people have seen how the PC agenda and use of identity politics has divided the country both socially and politically, by pitting women against men, liberals against conservatives, and blacks against whites, setting race relations in the country back 30 years. For a long time people like myself were complacent and said nothing, never believing that things would go this far... well they have, and it's time to put a stop to this crap before everyone ends up killing one another and the country ends up turning into a 3rd world ****hole.

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Translation, people like you have such thin skin that when your position at the top of the pile is threatened you panic and will abandon your morals in order to solidify your position at the top.

That all you have to whine about is progressives talking about stuff that you don't like is testament to how good you have it. Nobody is trying to legislate away your right to marry. Nobody is trying to make you buy insurance to pay for 'male health care'. The law never enslaved your great-grandparents, robbed your grandparents, imprisoned your parents, shot you when unarmed. There is no massive effort at the state and local level to disenfranchise you of the vote. There is no history of centuries of bad science devoted to 'proving' your intellectual inferiority. There is no travel ban on you because of your religion. There is no danger for you when you carry dangerous weaponry publicly. Your churches were never burned. Your lawns never decorated with burning crosses. Your ancestors never hung from trees. Your mothers aren't being torn away by ICE troopers and sent away forever. You won't be forced to leave the only country they ever knew. The president has not set up a hotline to report crime committed at your hands.

'Had enough' indeed. Suck it up, *****. Progressives aren't going anywhere.
 
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