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New Video Shows Man Shooting Gun Near Crowd of Counter Protesters in Charlottesville

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New Video Shows Man Shooting Gun Near Crowd of Counter Protesters in Charlottesville

Matt Novak

Yesterday 6:00pm

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New video has surfaced that shows a man drawing a gun and opening fire at counter protesters during the neo-Nazi protest in Charlottesville on August 12th. The man was reportedly taken into custody this morning, but many are asking why police didn’t do anything at the time......

Another video/source......



Wow, what is up with Trumps America ?
 
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Hilariously there are a lot of people on this forum who have been arguing that emotionally charged protests get safer when you sprinkle in a bunch of guns, as if that makes sense. All it takes is for one of these people in a heightened emotional state to feel threatened and start blasting people in "self defense". I'd much rather see protests handled like in Boston, safe and with order maintained.

If you're showing up to a protest armed to the teeth dressed in military gear, you're not there to protest in peace, you're itching for the chance to blast a "leftist". And before anyone thinks this is partisan sentiment, the other guy with the little flame thrower is just as guilty and should be prosecuted.
 
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Hilariously there are a lot of people on this forum who have been arguing that emotionally charged protests get safer when you sprinkle in a bunch of guns, as if that makes sense. All it takes is for one of these people in a heightened emotional state to feel threatened and start blasting people in "self defense". I'd much rather see protests handled like in Boston, safe and with order maintained.

If you're showing up to a protest armed to the teeth dressed in military gear, you're not there to protest in peace, you're itching for the chance to blast a "leftist". And before anyone thinks this is partisan sentiment, the other guy with the little flame thrower is just as guilty and should be prosecuted.

We saw a protest get out of hand recently in Hamburg. The damage was not done with guns nor necessarily by jerks that had gone there "to blast at "Leftists"". This does not mean I think one should go to demonstrations with guns. But I am also not sure that the intuitive reflex is correct. It often isn't.
 
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Hilariously there are a lot of people on this forum who have been arguing that emotionally charged protests get safer when you sprinkle in a bunch of guns, as if that makes sense. All it takes is for one of these people in a heightened emotional state to feel threatened and start blasting people in "self defense". I'd much rather see protests handled like in Boston, safe and with order maintained.

If you're showing up to a protest armed to the teeth dressed in military gear, you're not there to protest in peace, you're itching for the chance to blast a "leftist". And before anyone thinks this is partisan sentiment, the other guy with the little flame thrower is just as guilty and should be prosecuted.

Anytime emotions are running high, it's a potentially dangerous situation when weapons (guns, knives, bats, fists) are involved. Not everyone is emotionally able to control themselves, as this man apparently was not.

This guy should be arrested and charged with attempted murder, but that doesn't mean his poor behavior should dictate that other emotionally stable persons should not be able to carry arms. The vast majority of the time, those who are visibly armed, are not a threat. And, that's the key -- visibly. This guy was trying to cause trouble, shooting and then quickly hiding his handgun. That's pretty much what a gangbanger does.

I would not attend one of these types of protests, to support either side, because they attract people who are itching for a fight. At the same time, we have to protect individual rights. If groups were allowed to hold their protests, and nobody showed up to counter-protest, it would take all the wind out of their sails. That's the best way to handle these types of things. But now, we have a growing "resistance" that is gung-ho to silence the first groups and the scuffles between them are attracting more unstable folks on both sides.

Nothing happens in a vacuum.
 
Re: New Video Shows Man Shooting Gun Near Crowd of Counter Protesters in Charlottesvi

Hilariously there are a lot of people on this forum who have been arguing that emotionally charged protests get safer when you sprinkle in a bunch of guns, as if that makes sense. All it takes is for one of these people in a heightened emotional state to feel threatened and start blasting people in "self defense". I'd much rather see protests handled like in Boston, safe and with order maintained.

If you're showing up to a protest armed to the teeth dressed in military gear, you're not there to protest in peace, you're itching for the chance to blast a "leftist". And before anyone thinks this is partisan sentiment, the other guy with the little flame thrower is just as guilty and should be prosecuted.

Good observations.

I get the impression that when right wingers come armed to public event they are carrying on the great tradition of the American militia and honoring the Constitution with the right to keep and bear arms. When leftists come armed - they are a wild MOB who must be treated like rabid dogs and put down.
 
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New Video Shows Man Shooting Gun Near Crowd of Counter Protesters in Charlottesville

Matt Novak

Yesterday 6:00pm

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New video has surfaced that shows a man drawing a gun and opening fire at counter protesters during the neo-Nazi protest in Charlottesville on August 12th. The man was reportedly taken into custody this morning, but many are asking why police didn’t do anything at the time......

Another video/source......



Wow, what is up with Trumps America ?



He's going to need some luck with the background check
 
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Wait...someone is walking towards people with an improvised flamethrower aimed at people's heads and you want to go ape**** over the guy firing a warning shot? How about arresting the jerkbag with the flamethrower?
 
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Anytime emotions are running high, it's a potentially dangerous situation when weapons (guns, knives, bats, fists) are involved. Not everyone is emotionally able to control themselves, as this man apparently was not.

This guy should be arrested and charged with attempted murder, but that doesn't mean his poor behavior should dictate that other emotionally stable persons should not be able to carry arms. The vast majority of the time, those who are visibly armed, are not a threat. And, that's the key -- visibly. This guy was trying to cause trouble, shooting and then quickly hiding his handgun. That's pretty much what a gangbanger does.

I would not attend one of these types of protests, to support either side, because they attract people who are itching for a fight. At the same time, we have to protect individual rights. If groups were allowed to hold their protests, and nobody showed up to counter-protest, it would take all the wind out of their sails. That's the best way to handle these types of things. But now, we have a growing "resistance" that is gung-ho to silence the first groups and the scuffles between them are attracting more unstable folks on both sides.

Nothing happens in a vacuum.

Let met let you in on a little secret. The vast majority of white supremacists like neo-Nazis, Klansman and so on, are not emotionally stable.
 
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Wait...someone is walking towards people with an improvised flamethrower aimed at people's heads and you want to go ape**** over the guy firing a warning shot? How about arresting the jerkbag with the flamethrower?

Arrest them both.. but then again it is only now warrants for the neo nazi scum that beat up Deandre Harris have been issued..
 
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New Video Shows Man Shooting Gun Near Crowd of Counter Protesters in Charlottesville

Matt Novak

Yesterday 6:00pm

dfg5ga272ahupv3vxjhc.gif


New video has surfaced that shows a man drawing a gun and opening fire at counter protesters during the neo-Nazi protest in Charlottesville on August 12th. The man was reportedly taken into custody this morning, but many are asking why police didn’t do anything at the time......

Another video/source......



Wow, what is up with Trumps America ?


I guess, if I were trying to want to throw muck at someone instead of getting my mind around the situation? Yep. Then that's what I'd say .
 
Re: New Video Shows Man Shooting Gun Near Crowd of Counter Protesters in Charlottesvi

Let met let you in on a little secret. The vast majority of white supremacists like neo-Nazis, Klansman and so on, are not emotionally stable.

Perhaps, but nor are those (like Antifa and BLM) who go to those rallies specifically to stop the former groups from speaking out. Both sides are looking for a fight. Both think their cause is righteous. The good thing is that we rarely see fatal shootings, even if the groups are armed. The guy in the video who secretly (he thought) discharged his weapon, are few and far between. The militia types who carry arms during protests don't seem to have any problems.

My point is that the video does not rise to the level of needing to punish all rally-goers. He's an anomaly. We don't usually see that. However, it's up to each state/community to set the rules they feel comfortable setting.
 
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Perhaps, but nor are those (like Antifa and BLM) who go to those rallies specifically to stop the former groups from speaking out..

Yes, but the Antifa nuts are not showing up all armed to the teeth, so its a false equivalence.
 
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Arrest them both.. but then again it is only now warrants for the neo nazi scum that beat up Deandre Harris have been issued..
Deandre Harris?
You mean the guy who along with his buddies purposely antagonized the Rally attendees as they were leaving and then willfully engaged in violence and got his head cracked for it? That guy?


Deandre Harris attacks peaceful, law-abiding marcher




The Truth about Deandre Harris Injuries, #BLM and #Charlottesville

 
Re: New Video Shows Man Shooting Gun Near Crowd of Counter Protesters in Charlottesvi

New video has surfaced that shows a man drawing a gun and opening fire at counter protesters during the neo-Nazi protest in Charlottesville on August 12th. The man was reportedly taken into custody this morning, but many are asking why police didn’t do anything at the time......

He shouldn't even be charged as a man with a flamethrower is a danger to everybody there.
 
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He shouldn't even be charged as a man with a flamethrower is a danger to everybody there.

People with assault rifles and pistols aren't? That guy gets extra douche bag points for calling him a nigger before shooting.
 
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As somebody else in this thread stated, those Nazis came armed in the hopes of living out their fantasy of shooting some leftists.
 
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People with assault rifles and pistols aren't? That guy gets extra douche bag points for calling him a nigger before shooting.

If the folks with rifles and pistols were unjustifiably shooting them at the crowd as the guy with the makeshift flamethrower was you may have a point, but as it is, you do not.


His use of "nigger"? Irrelevant to the fact that the guy was a threat.
 
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If the folks with rifles and pistols were unjustifiably shooting them at the crowd as the guy with the makeshift flamethrower was you may have a point, but as it is, you do not.


His use of "nigger"? Irrelevant to the fact that the guy was a threat.
I think a lot of people can rest easy knowing that you're not a cop, judge or a lawyer. From the looks in the video the guy with the so-called flame thrower is standing pretty far away.
 
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I think a lot of people can rest easy knowing that you're not a cop, judge or a lawyer. From the looks in the video the guy with the so-called flame thrower is standing pretty far away.
1. You have no idea of what you speak.
2. Such use of force can be used in defense of others. The guy was not at a distance where he was not actually a threat to others.
 
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1. You have no idea of what you speak.
2. Such use of force can be used in defense of others. The guy was not at a distance where he was not actually a threat to others.
Oh so the Nazi was "defending others" from a black guy with a flamethrower? that's why he pocketed his pistol and walked away really fast?
 
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Oh so the Nazi was "defending others" from a black guy with a flamethrower? that's why he pocketed his pistol and walked away really fast?
iLOL
More irrelevant nonsense. Figures.

Was the guy with the flamethrower a threat? Of course he was.
 
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Looking for the usual suspects to "not defend" the Nazis....and I'm not disappointed
 
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Yes, but the Antifa nuts are not showing up all armed to the teeth, so its a false equivalence.

Actually it's a perfect comparison. Antifa is there to fight. They've publicly admitted as much. So far, we've seen them with gas canister, improvised flame throwers, rocks, bars, and sticks. They've used them not only on protesters, but also on the police. And, they don't have anything specifically against bringing guns.

In defense of antifa’s tactics, one member told AOL.com:

"Resistance is not always safe and pretty, but it is immaculate compared to our monstrous government."

Another member said the group wouldn’t rule out the use of firearms or other powerful weaponry at future protests.
https://www.policeone.com/Crowd-Control/articles/411974006-5-things-to-know-about-antifa/

The two groups are flip sides of the same coin. Neither owns the moral high-ground.
 
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Deandre Harris?
You mean the guy who along with his buddies purposely antagonized the Rally attendees as they were leaving and then willfully engaged in violence and got his head cracked for it? That guy?

Deandre Harris attacks peaceful, law-abiding marcher



The Truth about Deandre Harris Injuries, #BLM and #Charlottesville



Sigh, more Neo Nazi bull****. No one deserves to be beaten by metal rods... pathetic attitude
 
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