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New Video Shows Man Shooting Gun Near Crowd of Counter Protesters in Charlottesville

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OpportunityCost said:
Wait...someone is walking towards people with an improvised flamethrower aimed at people's heads and you want to go ape**** over the guy firing a warning shot? How about arresting the jerkbag with the flamethrower?
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Both should be arrested.

How do you know that was a warning shot?
 
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For the record, the flame thrower guy claims the spray can was thrown at him by one of the white nationalists and he used it as a flamethrower to protect the elderly man standing behind him. He could be b.s.ing or he could be telling the truth.

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Either way, both the shooter and the spray can guy should be arrested and have their day in court.
 
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PeteEU said:
Sigh, more Neo Nazi bull****. No one deserves to be beaten by metal rods... pathetic attitude
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1. Yes your reply is the one with the pathetic attitude, especially as the "poor black man" was the one who hit with a metal object.
2. It actually appears as though the was hit with wood and not metal as you claim.

Next.
 
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Geoist said:
Both should be arrested.

How do you know that was a warning shot?
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I tend to think you are probably right. There was criminal activity on all sides that requires judicial action that must be visibly and undoubtedly fair and firm.
 
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OpportunityCost said:
Wait...someone is walking towards people with an improvised flamethrower aimed at people's heads and you want to go ape**** over the guy firing a warning shot? How about arresting the jerkbag with the flamethrower?
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Clearly you do not know what a flame thrower is. And he walked back and then shot.
 
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HowardBThiname said:
Actually it's a perfect comparison. Antifa is there to fight. They've publicly admitted as much. So far, we've seen them with gas canister, improvised flame throwers, rocks, bars, and sticks. They've used them not only on protesters, but also on the police. And, they don't have anything specifically against bringing guns.


https://www.policeone.com/Crowd-Control/articles/411974006-5-things-to-know-about-antifa/

The two groups are flip sides of the same coin. Neither owns the moral high-ground.
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All the more reason for cities not to allow protesters to come armed.
 
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jimbo said:
They weren't? Both sides came armed looking for a fight.

In Charlottesville, some in the left came armed, too
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All the more reason for cities and municipalities not to allow protesters to be armed. These protests have a police presence, there is no reason for any protester to show up armed to the teeth.
 
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Geoist said:
For the record, the flame thrower guy claims the spray can was thrown at him by one of the white nationalists and he used it as a flamethrower to protect the elderly man standing behind him. He could be b.s.ing or he could be telling the truth.
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Likely b.s.ing which would be why his fellow mask wearer is holding a can too.

This was at the point when Officers were pushing the Rally attendees out of the park, there is no valid point ot what he said. To claim he was protecting the older white guy at this point is absurd.
He and his masked friend were there to do no good.




JANFU said:
Clearly you do not know what a flame thrower is.
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This is deflective nonsense as everyone knows to what is being referred.
And such a device can greatly harm someone.


JANFU said:
And he walked back and then shot.
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Yes he did. And?
You have no point as the device was then being used against other folks, which under the law, would allow a third party to use force to stop.
 
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Utility Man said:
New Video Shows Man Shooting Gun Near Crowd of Counter Protesters in Charlottesville

Matt Novak

Yesterday 6:00pm

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New video has surfaced that shows a man drawing a gun and opening fire at counter protesters during the neo-Nazi protest in Charlottesville on August 12th. The man was reportedly taken into custody this morning, but many are asking why police didn’t do anything at the time......

Another video/source......



Wow, what is up with Trumps America ?
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What makes it even worse that guy doesn't even know how to use his weapon, or at least he was so emotionally unstable at the time he forgot and was totally flustered.
 
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SouthernDemocrat said:
All the more reason for cities and municipalities not to allow protesters to be armed. These protests have a police presence, there is no reason for any protester to show up armed to the teeth.
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No. Simply no.

The 2nd Amendment is a right.
Counter protestors attacking is not.

If anything it is a reason to outlaw restrict counter protests from being near or around the original protest.
 
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Excon said:
No. Simply no.

The 2nd Amendment is a right.
Counter protestors attacking is not.

If anything it is a reason to outlaw restrict counter protests from being near or around the original protest.
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The 2nd Amendment is a right that like all rights is subject to reasonable restrictions when public safety is at risk. Even the most conservative members of the judiciary agree with that. You (one of the most ardent defenders of white supremacists on here for some reason) may have no problem with a pack of Nazis whose stated purpose is to start a race war, armed to the teeth in the public park, but most people would see that as a safety issue.

I got a house full of guns, I don't carry them to a public protest.
 
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Excon said:
No. Simply no.

The 2nd Amendment is a right.
Counter protestors attacking is not.

If anything it is a reason to outlaw restrict counter protests from being near or around the original protest.
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Was he in danger? Were others in danger? Was he justified in shooting?
 
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SouthernDemocrat said:
I got a house full of guns, I don't carry them to a public protest.
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Irrelevant.



SouthernDemocrat said:
The 2nd Amendment is a right that like all rights is subject to reasonable restrictions when public safety is at risk. Even the most conservative members of the judiciary agree with that.
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No. Simply no.

The act of carrying is benign and is not a threat to public safety.
If there is a threat to public safety in this issue, it presented itself with the counter protestors.


You do not restrict ones rights when the other is causing the actual issue.
Nor do you take away any of the group's rights.

The only rational solution, given the Rights we have (and to preserve them), is to prohibit counter protestors from being around the original protests.



SouthernDemocrat said:
You (one of the most ardent defenders of white supremacists on here for some reason)
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1. Pointing out how others are wrong is not really defending anyone.
2. Bigoted nonsense intended to shut down argument.



SouthernDemocrat said:
may have no problem with a pack of Nazis whose stated purpose is to start a race war, armed to the teeth in the public park, but most people would see that as a safety issue.
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Irrational hyperbole.
No one started a race war.

Based on experience, they planned to come prepared to defend their selves from those who were armed to attack them, not start a race war.
 
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JANFU said:
Was he in danger? Were others in danger? Was he justified in shooting?
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You do not think having a shooting flame in a persons face is an inherent danger?
He is lucky no one got burned by his actions.
 
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Excon said:
You do not think having a shooting flame in a persons face is an inherent danger?
He is lucky no one got burned by his actions.
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No one did, and no one was close enough
 
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JANFU said:
No one did, and no one was close enough
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Yes people were actually close enough. So stop with the bs.
1. One slip or someone from his rear pushing him and damage would have been done because he was close enough and was a threat. There isn't a Court of law that would say he wasn't actually a threat.
2. Had you bothered to notice when the guy with the gun first passed by Mr.Flamethrower, he didn't get it ignited but he sure hit him with the spray.
 
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F... this. Can we just break this down to the base components? This is America and people are allowed to say whatever they want. Other people are allowed to call out those people. Everybody has to realize there may be consequences to those actions and should ready to accept those consequences. And VIOLENCE is not speech, not ever, and is not acceptable and must be punished.
 
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trblmkr said:
Everybody has to realize there may be consequences to those actions and should ready to accept those consequences.
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Not on that.
Consequences for free speech should be very limited. Such as inciting violence and lawlessness.

Consequences for holding a certain view and/or attending a demonstration (on your own time), coming from an employer is wrong as it is not related to the business.
 
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well to be fair the guy did have a flame thrower. I wonder if they were warning shots or if someone got hit.
 
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legally couldnt the racist guy shoot him 15 times like a cop could if he seen someone with a flamethrower?
 
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Geoist said:
Both should be arrested.

How do you know that was a warning shot?
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Because at that range, its tough to miss with that stance.

My reaction is the outrage at the shooter and not at the guy with the impromptu flame thrower clearly threatening people.
 
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PeteEU said:
Arrest them both.. but then again it is only now warrants for the neo nazi scum that beat up Deandre Harris have been issued..
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I tend to agree but it seems to me a legitimate self defense or defense of another issue is occurring.
 
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Utility Man said:
New Video Shows Man Shooting Gun Near Crowd of Counter Protesters in Charlottesville

Matt Novak

Yesterday 6:00pm

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New video has surfaced that shows a man drawing a gun and opening fire at counter protesters during the neo-Nazi protest in Charlottesville on August 12th. The man was reportedly taken into custody this morning, but many are asking why police didn’t do anything at the time......

Another video/source......



Wow, what is up with Trumps America ?
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It is what Obama left us with...
 
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haymarket said:
Good observations.

I get the impression that when right wingers come armed to public event they are carrying on the great tradition of the American militia and honoring the Constitution with the right to keep and bear arms. When leftists come armed - they are a wild MOB who must be treated like rabid dogs and put down.
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Well... that is a pretty ridiculous comment.
 
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