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New poll reveals how most Americans feel about Confederate statues[W:52]

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A new poll released Thursday shows a majority of Americans want to keep Confederate statues in place to “honor” fallen leaders of the South.

According to an NPR/PBS Newshour/Marist poll, which was conducted among 1,125 U.S. citizens by phone Aug. 14-15, the overwhelming majority — 62 percent — want the monuments to remain while a much smaller share of Americans — 27 percent — want them removed.
New poll reveals how most Americans feel about Confederate statues – TheBlaze

Only 27% want them removed. Yet, many are being removed. Why?
 
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Also, if you go directly to the PBS site, they do their very best to bury this information.

New PBS NewsHour/NPR/Marist Poll Finds Majority Believe Trump Response to Charlottesville ?Weak,? Fatal Car Rampage Act of ?Domestic Terror? | Press

Big headline about Trump's response being weak, then several paragraphs down "Six in 10 Americans believe the statues honoring Confederate leaders should remain, with 67% of white Americans and 65% of Latinos recognizing the historical significance of such statues. African-Americans divide with 40 percent for the statue’s removal, and 44 against."

Boy, they sure did not want anyone seeing that.
 
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Anthony60 said:
A new poll released Thursday shows a majority of Americans want to keep Confederate statues in place to “honor” fallen leaders of the South.

According to an NPR/PBS Newshour/Marist poll, which was conducted among 1,125 U.S. citizens by phone Aug. 14-15, the overwhelming majority — 62 percent — want the monuments to remain while a much smaller share of Americans — 27 percent — want them removed.
New poll reveals how most Americans feel about Confederate statues – TheBlaze

Only 27% want them removed. Yet, many are being removed. Why?
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Because the squeaky wheel gets the grease.
 
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Anthony60 said:
Also, if you go directly to the PBS site, they do their very best to bury this information.

New PBS NewsHour/NPR/Marist Poll Finds Majority Believe Trump Response to Charlottesville ?Weak,? Fatal Car Rampage Act of ?Domestic Terror? | Press

Big headline about Trump's response being weak, then several paragraphs down "Six in 10 Americans believe the statues honoring Confederate leaders should remain, with 67% of white Americans and 65% of Latinos recognizing the historical significance of such statues. African-Americans divide with 40 percent for the statue’s removal, and 44 against."

Boy, they sure did not want anyone seeing that.
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They didn't bury it....it's just yesterday's news. You're the one that's late to the party....

https://www.debatepolitics.com/brea...derate-statues-majority-want-them-remain.html
 
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Anthony60 said:
A new poll released Thursday shows a majority of Americans want to keep Confederate statues in place to “honor” fallen leaders of the South.

According to an NPR/PBS Newshour/Marist poll, which was conducted among 1,125 U.S. citizens by phone Aug. 14-15, the overwhelming majority — 62 percent — want the monuments to remain while a much smaller share of Americans — 27 percent — want them removed.
New poll reveals how most Americans feel about Confederate statues – TheBlaze

Only 27% want them removed. Yet, many are being removed. Why?
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The answer is (or should be) obvious. The statue removal is decided at the state/local level and the poll used was at the national level. In case you haven't noticed, there are some (quite a few, actually) areas that are heavily "liberal" and like to ban images, ideas and speech that they find "offensive" from public property. This is not to say that "conservatives" do not share that disgusting trait but to point out that state/local opinions can (and do) differ from national opinions.
 
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Anthony60 said:
A new poll released Thursday shows a majority of Americans want to keep Confederate statues in place to “honor” fallen leaders of the South.

According to an NPR/PBS Newshour/Marist poll, which was conducted among 1,125 U.S. citizens by phone Aug. 14-15, the overwhelming majority — 62 percent — want the monuments to remain while a much smaller share of Americans — 27 percent — want them removed.
New poll reveals how most Americans feel about Confederate statues – TheBlaze

Only 27% want them removed. Yet, many are being removed. Why?
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Why? Because we have allowed a very small group of powerful people to engage in a ideological culture war designed to create chaos.

Rather than stand together as one, man/women/white/black/green/red/blue, to challenge their offensive, we have sat back and allowed ourselves to be taken in by sound bites, propaganda, deceit, and gross public manipulation.

People need to wake up to what is going on, and question why, all of a sudden, the Nation is tearing itself apart. Start digging into that question, and the wizards behind the curtains will reveal themselves.

Cut the strings! Stop taking the bait! Stop barking at the dog whistles!
 
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Anthony60 said:
A new poll released Thursday shows a majority of Americans want to keep Confederate statues in place to “honor” fallen leaders of the South.

According to an NPR/PBS Newshour/Marist poll, which was conducted among 1,125 U.S. citizens by phone Aug. 14-15, the overwhelming majority — 62 percent — want the monuments to remain while a much smaller share of Americans — 27 percent — want them removed.
New poll reveals how most Americans feel about Confederate statues – TheBlaze

Only 27% want them removed. Yet, many are being removed. Why?
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Now you believe in polls? ;)
 
Re: New poll reveals how most Americans feel about Confederate statues

Anthony60 said:
A new poll released Thursday shows a majority of Americans want to keep Confederate statues in place to “honor” fallen leaders of the South.

According to an NPR/PBS Newshour/Marist poll, which was conducted among 1,125 U.S. citizens by phone Aug. 14-15, the overwhelming majority — 62 percent — want the monuments to remain while a much smaller share of Americans — 27 percent — want them removed.
New poll reveals how most Americans feel about Confederate statues – TheBlaze

Only 27% want them removed. Yet, many are being removed. Why?
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I guess, Americans just aren't fascist enough to want alt-history, smash statues like taliban. They're just not liberal enough yet.
 
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Moot said:
They didn't bury it....it's just yesterday's news. You're the one that's late to the party....

https://www.debatepolitics.com/brea...derate-statues-majority-want-them-remain.html
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Considering the storm that was whipped up and that this is totally contradictory popular opinion? Yes. Mentioning it so little, while screeching like banshees to tear down historical monuments like the Talban is "burying" the news.
 
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Anthony60 said:
Yes, it is buried in the article on the PBS site. It's not even in the headline.
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The story is three days old...so it's no longer a headliner.
 
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joG said:
Considering the storm that was whipped up and that this is totally contradictory popular opinion? Yes. Mentioning it so little, while screeching like banshees to tear down historical monuments like the Talban is "burying" the news.
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They aren't "historical" monuments. They don't mark any relevant historical sites, battles, events or teach anything about history. The only thing historical about them is that they were erected during Jim Crowe and have stood there for a few years.
 
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Anthony60 said:
A new poll released Thursday shows a majority of Americans want to keep Confederate statues in place to “honor” fallen leaders of the South.

According to an NPR/PBS Newshour/Marist poll, which was conducted among 1,125 U.S. citizens by phone Aug. 14-15, the overwhelming majority — 62 percent — want the monuments to remain while a much smaller share of Americans — 27 percent — want them removed.
New poll reveals how most Americans feel about Confederate statues – TheBlaze

Only 27% want them removed. Yet, many are being removed. Why?
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If local communities want to get rid of their monuments, what's it to the rest of the country?
 
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Cardinal said:
If local communities want to get rid of their monuments, what's it to the rest of the country?
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And if people wish to legally protest, no matter who they are, what is that to the rest of the country? You can't have it both ways. You either stand for the much higher and more important principle of free speech, or you don't.
 
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ttwtt78640 said:
The answer is (or should be) obvious. The statue removal is decided at the state/local level and the poll used was at the national level. In case you haven't noticed, there are some (quite a few, actually) areas that are heavily "liberal" and like to ban images, ideas and speech that they find "offensive" from public property. This is not to say that "conservatives" do not share that disgusting trait but to point out that state/local opinions can (and do) differ from national opinions.
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Liberals like to remove tributes to traitors from public property, yes. Why don't we erect a statue of Osama Bin Laden in NYC while we're at it. Gotta preserve history.
 
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coldjoint said:
And if people wish to legally protest, no matter who they are, what is that to the rest of the country? You can't have it both ways. You either stand for the much higher and more important principle of free speech, or you don't.
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Carrying torches and rifles and threatening genocide isn't covered by free speech.
 
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The Democrats and the Left are notorious for coming up with strategies that just wind up biting them in the asses and this is no different.

I havent met one person who thinks this is a good idea. Most people Ive talked to are furious over this.

Is tearing down historic monuments part of the Democrat 2018 platform ? God I hope so
 
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Fenton said:
The Democrats and the Left are notorious for coming up with strategies that just wind up biting them in the asses and this is no different.

I havent met one person who thinks this is a good idea. Most people Ive talked to are furious over this.

Is tearing down historic monuments part of the Democrat 2018 platform ? God I hope so
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"Historic monuments."

These statues were specifically erected in response to the civil rights movement, in a deliberate attempt to oppress black people. Ok? They weren't put up during the civil war. After the end of the civil war, there weren't confederate flags on public property. They came back because the country was starting to decide maybe the law shouldn't treat black people differently, and that made these people mad.

They aren't historical monuments. They're symbols erected in support of hate.
 
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Deuce said:
"Historic monuments."

These statues were specifically erected in response to the civil rights movement, in a deliberate attempt to oppress black people. Ok? They weren't put up during the civil war. After the end of the civil war, there weren't confederate flags on public property. They came back because the country was starting to decide maybe the law shouldn't treat black people differently, and that made these people mad.

They aren't historical monuments. They're symbols erected in support of hate.
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Yes, they were erected by Democrats, who fillibustered the 1964 voting rights act.
Anyway, these statues have been in place for decades with no outrage or demand to remove them.

So why now ? Because the Democrat Party being completely void of ideas or policy based messaging have decided to adhere to a platform built on identiy poltics, pandering and demagoguery

They think the only way they can win is to build this coalition of victims, to pander and to divide.

Thing is this isnt lost on your average voters. Most people see through this BS and see this for what it is, exploitation, motivated by Politics .
 
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Deuce said:
Carrying torches and rifles and threatening genocide isn't covered by free speech.
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Either is hyperbole.:lamo
 
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Fenton said:
Yes, they were erected by Democrats, who fillibustered the 1964 voting rights act.
Anyway, these statues have been in place for decades with no outrage or demand to remove them.

So why now ? Because the Democrat Party being completely void of ideas or policy based messaging have decided to adhere to a platform built on identiy poltics, pandering and demagoguery

They think the only way they can win is to build this coalition of victims, to pander and to divide.

Thing is this isnt lost on your average voters. Most people see through this BS and see this for what it is, exploitation, motivated by Politics .
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Desperately trying to deflect this to ranting about Democrats. Pathetic.

People choose to care about things when they choose to care about them. Sometimes all it takes is a spark, something that gets the conversation going. Awareness spreads, more people go "hey, yeah, why do we have monuments celebrating oppression of black people!?"

You guys mention nobody cared about the statues a decade ago as if that somehow changes the situation. You're attacking the people who have chosen to care about this, instead of actually providing a single bit of reasoning why they're wrong.

Tell me why statues specifically erected to oppress black people should remain.
 
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coldjoint said:
Either is hyperbole.:lamo
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Right, I must have hallucinated the torches and rifles.
 
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Moot said:
The story is three days old...so it's no longer a headliner.
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Charlottesville is a week old.

Its old news.
 
Re: New poll reveals how most Americans feel about Confederate statues

Moot said:
They aren't "historical" monuments. They don't mark any relevant historical sites, battles, events or teach anything about history. The only thing historical about them is that they were erected during Jim Crowe and have stood there for a few years.
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If only Jim Crow was just "a few" years ago, I would understand all this concern over White Supremacy Groups....

However, since it was "a few" DECADES ago.... and White Supremacy groups amount to AT MOST 6000 people in America.......Im failing to see the big concern.
 
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Fenton said:
Yes, they were erected by Democrats, who fillibustered the 1964 voting rights act.
Anyway, these statues have been in place for decades with no outrage or demand to remove them.

So why now ? Because the Democrat Party being completely void of ideas or policy based messaging have decided to adhere to a platform built on identiy poltics, pandering and demagoguery

They think the only way they can win is to build this coalition of victims, to pander and to divide.

Thing is this isnt lost on your average voters. Most people see through this BS and see this for what it is, exploitation, motivated by Politics .
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Germany doesn't have monuments to Nazi generals, regardless of how brave they were and somehow Germans know their history.

The fact that they were erected by Democratic bigots before they switched to the Republicans is irrelevant.
 
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