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Trump says may pardon Arizona ex-sheriff Arpaio: Fox News

angljo said:
That does make you a racist. Below this page is a comment section. I do not want to discuss here where u are not supposed to do certain things. Write hi there so I know (in the comments). https://alejandrody98.wixsite.com/mysite I know exactly where this discussion would lead to.
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And you would be wrong about me. :peace
 
slick said:
Probably so! Especially because in this case a pardon is so justified.
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Yaay racism.... He's a jerk who needs to be made an example of. That is justice.
 
A pardon? :doh

So much for Trump being tough on crime!
 
Roadvirus said:
What was your view on the Bill Clinton/Marc Rich pardon? The Obama/Oscar Lopez Rivera pardon?

What Sheriff Joe did is small potatoes compared to them.
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Don't forget getting Chelsea Manning off the hook, that's a big one in my book.
 
danarhea said:
Actually, he is only proving the fact that, if Clinton or Obama stick their heads in pails of pig manure, he will do it too because they did. LOL.
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At this point, I think head in manure is now an occupational "Tradition".
 
iguanaman said:
All I know is that pardoning a racist in this racial charged environment will be worse than pardoning a convicted mass murderer. It will also again prove that Trump is racist too. Is that what you want?
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Frankly speaking, the president has every right to pardon, or commute sentences for anyone that they see fit. Whether or not that proves he is a racist really isn't a thing, since more then enough people came out for the Sheriff claiming he was being strung up for simply doing his job. Others also claimed that it was a racially charged action, only for their own rhetoric to destroy their argument as much as some idiot on the right can managed.

Claiming Trump is racist for doing something that is well within his power is highly redundant. More akin to calling an Italian chef racist, for cooking up a plate of Risotto.
 
Failure to investigate sex crimes

During a three-year period ending in 2007, more than 400 sex-crimes reported to Arpaio's office were inadequately investigated, or not investigated at all. While providing police services for El Mirage, Arizona, the MCSO under Arpaio failed to follow-through on at least 32 reported child molestations, even though the suspects were known in all but six cases. Many of the victims were children of illegal immigrants.[83][87]

Justification for ignoring sex crimes

An internal memo written by one of the detectives assigned to the Morrison case blamed a high case load, saying the special victims unit had gone from five detectives to just three, and the detectives left were often called off their cases to investigate special assignments. They included a credit card fraud case involving the Arizona Diamondbacks and a mortgage fraud case in Arpaio's home city of Fountain Hills.[88]

When county supervisors provided more than $600,000 to fund six additional detective positions to investigate child abuse in fiscal 2007, none were added to the sex-crimes squad. Sheriff’s administrators now say they have no idea where those positions were added or what became of the money after it was added to the budget.[89]

13-year-old rape victim ignored

In a controversial case, Arpaio's office was accused of ignoring Sabrina Morrison, a teenage girl suffering from a mental disability. On March 7, 2007, the 13 year old was raped by her uncle, Patrick Morrison. She told her teacher the next day, and her teacher called the MCSO. A rape kit was taken. But, the detective assigned to the case told Sabrina and her family that there were no obvious signs of sexual assault, no semen, or signs of trauma.[90]
As a result of the detective's statements, Sabrina was branded by her family as a liar. Her uncle continued to repeatedly rape her, saying he would kill her if she told anyone. She became pregnant by him, and had an abortion. The family did not know that the rape kit had been tested at the state lab, and showed the presence of semen. The lab requested that the detective obtain a blood sample from the suspect, Patrick Morrison.[91] Instead of obtaining the blood sample, or making an arrest, the detective filed the crime lab note and closed the case for four years.[91]
It was not until September 2011 that the Sheriff's Office finally obtained a blood sample from Patrick Morrison, which was a DNA match with the semen taken over four years earlier. It wasn't until February 29, 2012, that Patrick Morrison was arrested and charged with one count of sexual conduct with a minor, at which point the MCSO closed the case. Only later was Sabrina's uncle charged with additional indictments based on information obtained from Sabrina by a victim's advocate, after the MCSO had closed the case. Patrick Morrison ultimately pleaded guilty, and was sentenced to 24 years in prison.[91]
In December 2011, responding to continuing media coverage of the controversy, and apparently unaware that there were hundreds of victims in these cases, Arpaio stated, in a press conference, "If there were any victims, I apologize to those victims."[92]
In August 2012, Sabrina Morrison filed a $30 million notice of claim (a precursor to a lawsuit) against Joe Arpaio and Maricopa County for gross negligence, which was eventually settled for $3.5 million.[93][94]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio#Controversies


Despicable.
 
If he does it will effect his chance of being re-elected.
 
Oborosen said:
Frankly speaking, the president has every right to pardon, or commute sentences for anyone that they see fit. Whether or not that proves he is a racist really isn't a thing, since more then enough people came out for the Sheriff claiming he was being strung up for simply doing his job. Others also claimed that it was a racially charged action, only for their own rhetoric to destroy their argument as much as some idiot on the right can managed.

Claiming Trump is racist for doing something that is well within his power is highly redundant. More akin to calling an Italian chef racist, for cooking up a plate of Risotto.
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I'm not sure what you're trying to say, but it makes no sense. If he pardons Sheriff Joe, no one disputes that he has that power - of course he does. But noting that it's within his power does NOT mean that such an action cannot be condemned by those who believe Sheriff Joe is a bigot.

At the very least, the timing is awfully darn curious. Just after he reads some nice words on the teleprompter, he undoes all the good that did by floating the pardon of a man that, if nothing else is true, a large part of the country view as a bigot, and who is a white nationalist/white supremacist favorite.
 
poweRob said:
This is what Trump wants to do with his executive power? Really?

Trump says may pardon Arizona ex-sheriff Arpaio: Fox News

President Donald Trump is "seriously considering" pardoning Joe Arpaio, a former Arizona sheriff found guilty last month of criminal contempt for violating the terms of a 2011 court order in a racial profiling case, Fox News reported on Monday.

“I am seriously considering a pardon for Sheriff Arpaio,” Trump told Fox News on Sunday at his country club in Bedminster, New Jersey.​
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oh....but Trump doesn't have a racist bone in his body.....DOH!
 
JasperL said:
I'm not sure what you're trying to say, but it makes no sense. If he pardons Sheriff Joe, no one disputes that he has that power - of course he does. But noting that it's within his power does NOT mean that such an action cannot be condemned by those who believe Sheriff Joe is a bigot.

At the very least, the timing is awfully darn curious. Just after he reads some nice words on the teleprompter, he undoes all the good that did by floating the pardon of a man that, if nothing else is true, a large part of the country view as a bigot, and who is a white nationalist/white supremacist favorite.
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Alright lets go ahead and be frank here, I have no problem with seeing that Trump might actually pardon the Sheriff. Much like I have had no problem with any of our former presidents doing the same in the past. The timing is only curious because you want it to be so, and it has nothing to do with either bigotry, or white nationalism/supremacy.

The truth of the matter for one part is that Joe is damn near 90, and with no prior record, citations etc. It is highly unlikely that he will even see any jail time of what would have been at most a 9 month sentence. So on that hand I can see why Trump would just pardon him, to get that out of the way, and done for.

It never helped Joe's position that he was a hard-ass old man, especially if you were a criminal, be it illegal immigrant or otherwise. That in of itself does not make the man a bigot though, neither does the fact that he endorsed Trump during his election. Though I have had that thrown in my face like it was a seal of ****ing approval from god, and the sole proof that all those claims of him being a bigot/racist were true. In my opinion the only reason he is getting so much hate is because he did so during the election, and its rather sad that is the only ammo people usually use.

I honestly find making them wear pink underwear, and sleep in tents funny. I have no problem with chain-gangs either, seeing as they are just another form of physical labor used by the state. Not to mention one of the most surefire ways to keep escape attempts down. You're sent to prison to do the time, and learn your lesson. We have prisons here in the states where inmates can play golf, or have a damn popcorn movie night.

As for Joe actually being a bigot or racist, I cannot find any concrete evidence. Though I believe that this is just how people like to associate him being an old man stuck in his ways. You can even look up service rosters for the different departments under his purview, and more than a few have non-white officers, deputies, etc.

So I guess the racist claim is out the window if that is the case.
I am just tired of people getting thrown under the bus for the simple/idiotic cause of social justice, or some perceived slight that never really was there. Hell we have journalist whining about how they felt physically ill due to the harsh talk from the president on his last press release.. I remember when journalist were made of sterner stuff.

I know a way we can come to an agreement, how about we have Trump not pardon Joe? He stays in for the whole sentence, and serves to his last day?

In return all of the people Obama acquitted, and commuted the sentence of during his last days as president have to get their asses right back behind bars.

Starting with Bradley Manning.
 
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