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Verizon admits to throttling video in apparent violation of net neutrality

Let me try my hand at an analogy... Say there is a grocery store, that the store owners built, that you go to and want to buy a certain brand of sausage. But that store doesn't carry that brand. Instead, they have their own brand prominently featured in the store. That's because they make more money selling their own brand. Now, they'll carry the other brand if they pay for space in their store, that they built and own.

But a group of people get together and get the government to step in. The government says not only do you have to carry the other brand, but you have to make sure that it is give the same prominent space as your own brand, in your own store, and you can't charge them one more cent.

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Anthony60 said:
Let me try my hand at an analogy... Say there is a grocery store, that the store owners built, that you go to and want to buy a certain brand of sausage. But that store doesn't carry that brand. Instead, they have their own brand prominently featured in the store. That's because they make more money selling their own brand. Now, they'll carry the other brand if they pay for space in their store, that they built and own.

But a group of people get together and get the government to step in. The government says not only do you have to carry the other brand, but you have to make sure that it is give the same prominent space as your own brand, in your own store, and you can't charge them one more cent.

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LOL...

Serious

You are paying for a given data rate. Not the content of the data.

This is not sausage making, though government regulations come close.
 
Lord of Planar said:
That's just it. They either can or cannot make good on their guarantee. They shouldn't guarantee it if they cannot make good on it.
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They can be sued through contract violation. It's already been successfully done in other instances. No need for government interference into the internet itself.
 
Fishking said:
They can be sued through contract violation. It's already been successfully done in other instances. No need for government interference into the internet itself.
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Agreed.

As many times as I have seen claims of "throttling," I have never seen any proof. Have you? I have only seen it on packages that give an allocated GB per month as well.

Hell, my cell phone data gets throttled. I pay for 6 GB per month, and sometimes go past it. But... am I complaining? Hell no!@
 
EMNofSeattle said:
I distinctly remember not caring.

Netflix destroyed an entire industry, why do you expect me to shed a few tears over the fact they have to negotiate for data? That gets right to the heart of the matter, net neutrality was not an issue until some corporations with financial backing didn't want to pay market price for the services they're consuming.
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It is one thing to support an open market for bandwidth. It is an entire different thing when it is used to stiffle competition. As example think of Microsoft days dealing with anti-trust and requirements of not hindering other web browser. Apple, Google and other companies deal with anti-trust issues accross the world daily.

Why would you ever allow ISP's the power to kill competition? They are in a spot where consumers would have to accept it because there is often no competitive choice to get another ISP.

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Lord of Planar said:
How many people use the 5 ghz technology?
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And you have to be logged into that, and as far as I know the 5 GHz is only between you and the router, is it not?
 
American said:
And you have to be logged into that, and as far as I know the 5 GHz is only between you and the router, is it not?
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Yes, but there is only so much bandwidth and only so many channels. Like on a freeway, there are only so many lanes. As traffic increases, your speed ends up slowing down.

The radio signal is not tight bean directional, but omnidirectional. Wireless only handles so many paths of communications before they start interfering with each other. When you get into densely populated areas, and have many people in close proximity using wifi... there will be problems.
 
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