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32 million more people would be uninsured under new GOP Repeal Obamacare Bill

It's the percentage of GOP fail that matters. Right now that is 100%

That's funny, because it is equal to the Democrats 100% fail to win the House, Senate, or Presidency. And as a bonus, Obamacare is also a 100% fail.
 
Maybe we are talking past one another. I thought you were suggesting that things like Medicare, Medicaid or the ACA caused a loss of freedom. Sorry.

Actually, you have me confused with someone else.

Medicare and Medicaid don't cause a loss of freedom. The mandate of the ACA does, though. That's not even arguable.
 
You'd be surprised how many people learn to hate liberty when confronted by a sick child of theirs.

Thank God our founders didn't think that way, or we wouldn't even have a country. Nice contribution, though.
 
You "heard?" People hear a lot of things that aren't true. Link us to where you heard that so we can evaluate the claim.

I can read the fraudulence already comparing dollars in 1966 with 2017 dollars, unadjusted for inflation. My Dad made $10,000 a year in 1966. Gee, that would be below the poverty line today.

I heard it on the 7/20/17 Mark Levin SHow, if that helps you.
Audio Rewind | MARK-CM

And it was 4 billion people, not dollars, in 1966.

You can also find a chart here...
https://www.statista.com/statistics/245347/total-medicaid-enrollment-since-1966/
You can clearly see how the number of people on it exploded under Obama. Big surprise there.
 
That's funny, because it is equal to the Democrats 100% fail to win the House, Senate, or Presidency. And as a bonus, Obamacare is also a 100% fail.

Actually Obamacare is alive and well. Trump just makes **** up. No wonder he is a Republican
 
Actually Obamacare is alive and well. Trump just makes **** up. No wonder he is a Republican

No requirement to be dead to be a failure. And dead or alive, Obamacare is every bit the failure for this country.
 
No requirement to be dead to be a failure. And dead or alive, Obamacare is every bit the failure for this country.

Obamacare has saved countless lives. Which of course means nothing to righties.
 
Have you ever thought about the profits and revenues these health insurance companies make? Look at their profits from 2005 compared to 2013. The insurance companies are making record breaking profits every year, as deductables and premiums raise hmmmm.
Look at the amount of money they pay their top executives, they keep getting more and more money.
Thanks Obamacare
 
In 10 years I heard Health insurance outlays paid by the government will
be larger than the military budget. In addition Obama added 20 million to the
medicaid roles & that medicaid expenses which were 4 billion in 1966 are
73 billion today. All this seems at little out of whack.
MTAtech said:
You "heard?" People hear a lot of things that aren't true. Link us to where you heard that so we can evaluate the claim.

I can read the fraudulence already comparing dollars in 1966 with 2017 dollars, unadjusted for inflation. My Dad made $10,000 a year in 1966. Gee, that would be below the poverty line today.

I heard it on the 7/20/17 Mark Levin SHow, if that helps you.
Audio Rewind | MARK-CM

And it was 4 billion people, not dollars, in 1966.

You can also find a chart here...
https://www.statista.com/statistics/245347/total-medicaid-enrollment-since-1966/
You can clearly see how the number of people on it exploded under Obama. Big surprise there.
Let’s follow this. Slick said (post #43) he heard that “Medicaid expenses were four billion in 1966 but 73 billion today.”

I responded by stating $4 billion in 1966 dollars is misleading because of inflation. ($4 bil. in 1966 is $30.81 billion today.)

Anthony replied (post #54) that he heard it on the right-wing radio program, of Mark Levin and “it was 4 billion people, not dollars, in 1966.”

First, there weren’t 4 billion people on Medicaid in 1966 or today, because the U.S. population is only 325 million. What I think ‘slick’ got wrong was “billion” when he meant million and “people” not “dollars.”

Second, while there may have been 4 million people on Medicaid in 1966, all the states hadn’t joined the program until 1972.

Third, in 1966, the baby-boomers were teenagers. Now, they are retired or post-retired. One of the leading users of Medicaid is seniors living on nursing homes. So, it’s not surprising that Medicaid usage has grown because of total population growth but also because of the aging population. I guess it’s a good thing that we have Medicaid, huh? It equally true that it's bad that the Republicans want to scale back or eliminate Medicaid.

They say that statistics don't lie but liars use statistics. This is an example of Mark Levin lying with factual statistics.
 
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That's funny, because it is equal to the Democrats 100% fail to win the House, Senate, or Presidency. And as a bonus, Obamacare is also a 100% fail.
Dems picked up seats, and ACA is working. Your post is the fail.
 
You'd be surprised how many people learn to hate liberty when confronted by a sick child of theirs.

Tell that to the parents of Charlie Gard. I don't believe I've ever heard a more idiotic statement in my entire life.
 
Obamacare has saved countless lives. Which of course means nothing to righties.

Yes, countless, likely zero. We could save way, way more lives by banning automobiles and going back to horses. I guess you would be for that too.
 
Dems picked up seats, and ACA is working. Your post is the fail.

Good for them! I'm fine with them losing all three, as you are. And that ACA sure is a success! I can't wait for even higher premiums and sky high deductibles. Nothing like price hikes when you were PROMISED a $2500 reduction in premiums.
 
Good for them! I'm fine with them losing all three, as you are. And that ACA sure is a success! I can't wait for even higher premiums and sky high deductibles. Nothing like price hikes when you were PROMISED a $2500 reduction in premiums.
If the GOP had worked with the Dems, this would not have happened. Either our GOP gets in gear, or our the citizens will get in gear and make our GOP a small minority next year.
 
If the GOP had worked with the Dems, this would not have happened. Either our GOP gets in gear, or our the citizens will get in gear and make our GOP a small minority next year.

Funny how it was fine for the Democrats to shutout Republicans when they passed it, right? I'm glad the crappy bill didn't pass, it was just another big, bloated program of government intruding where they have no business being.

Republicans have been winning elections on one issue, repealing Obamacare. "Root and branch" is what I was hearing.

If they don't do it, they'll be out, simple. Ironically, that would leave the reins to the Democrats, and a guarantee to make things even worse.
 
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Let’s follow this. Slick said (post #43) he heard that “Medicaid expenses were four billion in 1966 but 73 billion today.”

I responded by stating $4 billion in 1966 dollars is misleading because of inflation. ($4 bil. in 1966 is $30.81 billion today.)

Anthony replied (post #54) that he heard it on the right-wing radio program, of Mark Levin and “it was 4 billion people, not dollars, in 1966.”

First, there weren’t 4 billion people on Medicaid in 1966 or today, because the U.S. population is only 325 million. What I think ‘slick’ got wrong was “billion” when he meant million and “people” not “dollars.”

Second, while there may have been 4 million people on Medicaid in 1966, all the states hadn’t joined the program until 1972.

Third, in 1966, the baby-boomers were teenagers. Now, they are retired or post-retired. One of the leading users of Medicaid is seniors living on nursing homes. So, it’s not surprising that Medicaid usage has grown because of total population growth but also because of the aging population. I guess it’s a good thing that we have Medicaid, huh? It equally true that it's bad that the Republicans want to scale back or eliminate Medicaid.

They say that statistics don't lie but liars use statistics. This is an example of Mark Levin lying with factual statistics.

Look, what's wrong with you. It's something I heard on the radio while working. Personally I thiought it was interesting. I
did not 'erect a cathedral' around the truth of the person who mouthpieced it. If you are enraged by the possibility that it's
"FAKE NEWS' have at it.

I didn't bother to read your response & plan to scroll right by your every post in the future. Good Grief!
 
". . . it was fine for the Democrats to shutout Republicans when they passed it. . ." is not so.

The GOP attended 61 meetings and made 100 amendments.

Tell the truth, please.
 
Look, what's wrong with you. It's something I heard on the radio while working. Personally I thiought it was interesting. I
did not 'erect a cathedral' around the truth of the person who mouthpieced it. If you are enraged by the possibility that it's
"FAKE NEWS' have at it.

I didn't bother to read your response & plan to scroll right by your every post in the future. Good Grief!

He was hung up on a typo for half his post, but he sure explained the 1800% increase, LOL!
 
Actually, you have me confused with someone else.

Medicare and Medicaid don't cause a loss of freedom. The mandate of the ACA does, though. That's not even arguable.

How is the ACA mandate more tyrannical than the Medicare one?
 
". . . it was fine for the Democrats to shutout Republicans when they passed it. . ." is not so.

The GOP attended 61 meetings and made 100 amendments.

Tell the truth, please.

LOL, right. Yes, as substantive as all the prior GOP votes to repeal. They had no intention of changing a thing of any consequence.
 
Tell that to the parents of Charlie Gard. I don't believe I've ever heard a more idiotic statement in my entire life.

My general point was that health insurance as provided by all the developed countries in the world (and Medicare/Medicaid here) does not amount to loss of freedom in other than some extreme libertarian eyes. One or a few examples like the one you mentioned does not invalidate that. If you were advising all the countries that now provide health care, would you suggest they all get rid of such insurance because of Charlie Gard?
 
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