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    Re: Dems: Why did DOJ dismiss fraud case connected to Russian lawyer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Parrish View Post
    The only issue now is this POTUS and those he surrounds himself with, his/their motives, ethics and his/their allegiances. No one else is doing this. That 45 is so transparent with his feelings about Putin and all things Russia, admiration for other tyrants and his own personal dealings with them and then his being given a pass by his own party is something that we as Americans cannot abide.

    What will it take for his defenders to come to senses and realize that this is not harmless behavior?
    I suspect that if somebody, anybody, could actually demonstrate the harm, maybe some would change their mind.

    In the meantime, the hypocrisy is palpable. We do and have overthrown legitimately elected governments for decades, sometimes by way of military aggression, sometimes by instigating massive protests, this spring, that spring, arab spring, orange revolution, etc. There is hardly one single government in central or south America that we have not overthrown overtly or covertly.

    As far as the influence of other governments in the operations of our government here in the US, consider the story of Sibel Edmonds told in her book "A Classified Woman". She exposes the control exerted by Turkey in US functions.

    Then there is Israel with AIPAC, a political action committee that is an unregistered agent of a foreign government. Few people, NONE in the mainstream media, talk about that.

    So it's hard for me to get worked up about what communications Trump and his people have had with Russia. Hillary and her Foundation have done the same thing OR MORE with foreigners all over the place.

    Sorry, the Hypocrisy Meter in this case is pegged off the scale.

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    Re: Dems: Why did DOJ dismiss fraud case connected to Russian lawyer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Parrish View Post
    Exercise a little intellectual curiosity and read a few articles about this suit.

    You might not think that anyone likes the Russians but the current administration doesn't have a problem with them.
    Is this the case where the Russians are complaining the Clintons promised to sell the the entire US uranium supply, rather than a paltry 30%, and are threatening to sue the Clinton Foundation for a partial refund?

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/04/2...FORM=QBLH&sp=1
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    Re: Dems: Why did DOJ dismiss fraud case connected to Russian lawyer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Parrish View Post
    What will it take for his party to speak out against his pandering and allegiance to all things Russia?
    Oh now the entire Republican Party is in cahoots with the Ruskies, huh?
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    Re: Dems: Why did DOJ dismiss fraud case connected to Russian lawyer?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Sessions is as dirty as any member of the corrup trump administration.

    Meanwhile, all 30 GOP house members on the appropriations committee voted for Kushner to keep his security clearance .
    All 30? That's suspicious, think they were drugged?
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    Re: Dems: Why did DOJ dismiss fraud case connected to Russian lawyer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Next time you find yourself wondering why democrats hold no political power in this country, consider that it might be because people don't want to vote for those who think like you do. Being vile, hateful and angry is no way to win elections.
    Except that's exactly how Trump won the election.
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    Re: Dems: Why did DOJ dismiss fraud case connected to Russian lawyer?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Oh now the entire Republican Party is in cahoots with the Ruskies, huh?
    I didn't say that the entire R party was in cahoots with the Russians. You did. Was that a Freudian slip?

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    Re: Dems: Why did DOJ dismiss fraud case connected to Russian lawyer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Parrish View Post
    I didn't say that the entire R party was in cahoots with the Russians. You did. Was that a Freudian slip?

    "For his party" is totally implied the party, not just a few members.
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    Re: Dems: Why did DOJ dismiss fraud case connected to Russian lawyer?

    The entire Russian connection is a tactic so the Clintons can stay below the radar. The goal is to place all the attention, on Trump so they can avoid the spotlight on the Clinton-Russian connection. The Clinton Foundation took a large donation from Russian interests, while Hillary and Obama were giving Russia a significant percent of our nuclear stockpile. This is serious enough to look into seeing how Trump accusation has nothing as tangible and documented.

    The FBI investigation of Hillary's e-mail server suggested that her server had been hacked by several nations including the Russians, Chinese, Israel, etc. It is very likely, the Russian have her lost e-mails like Trump jokingly suggested. It is easy to download the content of an email server.

    What is going on now, is the Clintons and Democrats need to discredit the Russians, even though a few years earlier they were business partners who pushed the reset button. The Trump-Russian connection, gives them a way to deny anything Russian, if the Russian were to release her lost e-mails. They are building up a line of deniability, based on public opinion. They are also showing what they can still do to traitors.

    These lost e-mails will be damming for a lot of people, since Hillary was doing US government and foundation business on the same server. These lost e-mails will have correspondence from Obama, as well as a wide range of shady characters from all over the world, who paid to play under the assumption Hillary would be president. Since this is life or death, fake news and the entire swamp, can't stop less they be exposed.

    Trump appears to waiting for a certain thing to happen, before it turns the tables. My guess is he will wait until the fall when school is back in session, so he can use this as a civics lesson. Trump Jr's meeting with the Russian lawyer, who turned out to be allowed into the US by the Obama Administration, may have been a trial balloon of a future tactic leading to a reversal. There will be a leak, without a named source, that appears to incriminate Trump or someone close. Fake news will bounce on the leak, without good research. They will smell blood and act. After some research and lots of press negative coverage, the new facts will point backwards causing the beginning of the end of the swamp.

    To be honest, people are getting bored with the Russian Trump soap opera. It always promises so much but always disappoints. Trump, the showman that he is, will put together a star studded cast for a new TV political drama, starting Bill, Hillary, Barrack, Jarrad and Rice.
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    Re: Dems: Why did DOJ dismiss fraud case connected to Russian lawyer?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I don't know, being vile, hateful and angry worked for Trump. In a landslide according to him.
    He won in spite of that, not because of that. Besides, imitating what you revile in others is not good practice.

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    Re: Dems: Why did DOJ dismiss fraud case connected to Russian lawyer?

    Quote Originally Posted by MTAtech View Post
    Let me remind you that in 2016, HRC not only got 3 million more votes than Trump, they also gained two Senate seats and 9 House seats.

    But I think what you are implying is so -- namely, Republicans are more concerned with tax-cuts for the wealthy and cutting protections on Americans than they are with caring the patriotic assurance that our Democracy is free of Russian malfeasance. Republicans can no longer claim the patriotism high-ground. According to them, having a president who will sign any tax-cut or regulation repeal that comes before him is more important than if he's a Russian stooge who uses the Office of the President as his personal money-making machine. So, they look the other way at the Emperor who has no clothes.
    If you had stopped after that first sentence you would have had a decent point of discussion. You tossed any chance of that away with the hackish nonsense that followed though.

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