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House Democrat introduces article of impeachment against Trump

FFS, are the Dems really going to start parroting the ACA repeal stunts?

They have no chance of getting anywhere near the votes for this until something happens that causes the GOP to calculate that it actually won't hurt their re-election chances to impeach their own President. We're nowhere near that point.







What they should really be doing is introducing their own legislation to patch up Obamacare, work on infrastructure, etc. If the GOP kills it, then at least they can turn to voters in 2018 and say "see? We had ideas, the GOP didn't. Give us another chance."

If they keep on with the impeachment routine, they'll just look silly (well, that is, until/unless there's a clear impeachable offense).

"Something Happens"??? You mean like Democrats finally figuring out a lie about Trump that doesn't quickly blow up in their faces?
 
Just be patient. The Trump Administration will hang itself if given enough rope.

Assuming loony libs don't cry wolf too many times.Making up accusations of Russian collusion, and whining or over blowing every little thing Trump says or does is crying wolf.
 
Assuming loony libs don't cry wolf too many times.Making up accusations of Russian collusion, and whining or over blowing every little thing Trump says or does is crying wolf.

One would think that simply repeating his lies and childish insults would be enough, but nothing seems to open the eyes of his ardent supporters.

So, you may be right. It's best to just let his administration implode on its own and quit harping on it.
 
Just as they didn't vote against Nixon--they simply told him to resign--it's different 44 years later with McConnell, Ryan and Pence being geaviky involved, IMO.

I've previously mentioned that there were 2 WH wings, family and bannon. It's hard to guess how many tentacles are leaking on each other now, with the family after Priebus .

Nixon is not relevant. Incase you had not noticed the only actual crime exposed in this entire Democrat caused disaster are against the Trump administration not by them.
 
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One would think that simply repeating his lies and childish insults would be enough, but nothing seems to open the eyes of his ardent supporters.

So, you may be right. It's best to just let his administration implode on its own and quit harping on it.

It would be the more logical thing to do.Because every fraudulent claim against Trump the libs spew makes future claims against Trump less believable. After all the people who voted for Trump didn't give a rats ass that he supported liberal positions, donated money to liberal democrats and RINO republicans,praised liberal democrats and RINO republicans,supported Obama before jumping on the birther-tard band wagon or even hung out with the Clitons o numerous occasions before shouting lock her up.
 
In my opinion pence and ryan are just as tainted by this scandal as trump

you mean the made up scandal by the liberal media. I didn't know that baseless accusations was evidence of anything.
I didn't hear you complaining about any of the Obama scandals. liberal hypocrisy for the win.
 
Come on, Slick Willy lied under oath.

I think it was a gross and cynical political maneuvering that put him in the position of being asked the question. Once the investigation turned into trying to find out if Bill cheated on Hillary, I think it should have ended. That's a private matter. But, I do not think that means it's any less of a big deal for him to perjure himself.









Consider the personal analogy. You are falsely accused of a crime. Does that entitle you to commit perjury at your trial? Excuse it in some way?

LOL Lying about you personal life to protect your family is a time honored tradition in America. That question should never have been asked in the first place. It had nothing to do with Clinton's duties as President.
 
LOL Lying about you personal life to protect your family is a time honored tradition in America. That question should never have been asked in the first place.

I'm probably just replying to have replied, but....

Again, I agree entirely that it never should have been asked. But I think an oath is an oath. Words matter. And he lied under oath.

Awful position to be in, but he did put himself there, even if the investigation started out about one thing and ended up being about another thing. Then he lied under oath. Uselessly, too, because the proof was there and he should have known it.

It was also a bad decision for a rather crafty politician. He'd have come out much better if he said "yes, I did, and I deserve divorce", then gone home to try to save the marriage. There is something terribly disarming about a person openly admitting to wrongdoing without any equivocation. There's an urge to forgive....well....unless it's cops interrogating a criminal. But that's a different scenario.

Either way, he decided to lie under oath.




There's a rarely used defense called "necessity", where one says "yup, I did it and I knew it was objectively wrong. But it was the lesser of two evils and I had no other choice." I don't think that applies here.
 
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LOL Lying about you personal life to protect your family is a time honored tradition in America. That question should never have been asked in the first place. It had nothing to do with Clinton's duties as President.

yet it had everything to do with the sexual harassment claim that he was being charged with.
 
yet it had everything to do with the sexual harassment claim that he was being charged with.

Monica made no such claim. Clinton was never found guilty of sexual harassment either.
 
I'm probably just replying to have replied, but....

Again, I agree entirely that it never should have been asked. But I think an oath is an oath. Words matter. And he lied under oath.

Awful position to be in, but he did put himself there, even if the investigation started out about one thing and ended up being about another thing. Then he lied under oath. Uselessly, too, because the proof was there and he should have known it.

It was also a bad decision for a rather crafty politician. He'd have come out much better if he said "yes, I did, and I deserve divorce", then gone home to try to save the marriage. There is something terribly disarming about a person openly admitting to wrongdoing without any equivocation. There's an urge to forgive....well....unless it's cops interrogating a criminal. But that's a different scenario.

Either way, he decided to lie under oath.




There's a rarely used defense called "necessity", where one says "yup, I did it and I knew it was objectively wrong. But it was the lesser of two evils and I had no other choice." I don't think that applies here.

Except you are wrong he never could have known about the "dress" that proved his indiscretion.
 
Except you are wrong he never could have known about the "dress" that proved his indiscretion.

Other than um...... doing things upon it
 
Monica made no such claim. Clinton was never found guilty of sexual harassment either.

LOL there was a sexual complaint lodged otherwise there would be no need for an investigation.
in any event it turns out he lied under oat which is why he was impeached.
 
Specify an actual lie?

The fact is there are no actual lies; Sometimes President Trump honestly gets things wrong, or he is purposely taken out of context by Leftist to claim he is lying. He also like most highly successful Alpha Males he is a bit of a peacock and braggart. But there are no lies that come anywhere close to "You can keep your doctor" , "Benghazi was caused by a video" or "17 intelligence agencies say there was collusion."

Google "Trump Lies" -

You choose to rely on Alternative Facts in an Alternate Universe. Have you researched the term "Filter Bubble"?

All Pants on Fire! statements involving Donald Trump | PolitiFact

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filter_bubble
 
Google "Trump Lies" -

You choose to rely on Alternative Facts in an Alternate Universe. Have you researched the term "Filter Bubble"?

All Pants on Fire! statements involving Donald Trump | PolitiFact

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filter_bubble

Did you bother actually reading your own Politifact source and then listening the actual quote they call a lie instead of just taking their word for it? This post actually proves my point 100%

Filter Bubble? As Vox Day says: "If you want to know the nefarious behaviors of Leftists, look at want they accuse you of."
 
Did you bother actually reading your own Politifact source and then listening the actual quote they call a lie instead of just taking their word for it? This post actually proves my point 100%

Filter Bubble? As Vox Day says: "If you want to know the nefarious behaviors of Leftists, look at want they accuse you of."

Lots of grins! It does not surprise me you do not respect Politifact as a credible source.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/politifact/

Blows to the head tend to lower IQ. Can you post some MMA highlights?
 
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LOL there was a sexual complaint lodged otherwise there would be no need for an investigation.
in any event it turns out he lied under oat which is why he was impeached.

The "Monica" "investigation was part of the multi=million $ Whitewater fiasco that turned up nothing. They stumbled into it thru Linda Trip a friend of Monica who made tapes of Monica talking about her affair with Clinton.

Jan. 12: Linda Tripp contacts the office of Whitewater Independent Counsel Ken Starr to talk about Lewinsky and the tapes she made of their conversations. The tapes allegedly have Lewinsky detailing an affair with Clinton and indicate that Clinton and Clinton friend Vernon Jordan told Lewinsky to lie about the alleged affair under oath.

Jan. 13, 1998: Tripp, wired by FBI agents working with Starr, meets with Lewinsky at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel bar in Pentagon City, Va., and records their conversation.
A Chronology: Key Moments In The Clinton-Lewinsky Saga
 
Let's say we get there at some point.



We will then have to ask ourselves whether we really want a Pence-Ryan White House. Perhaps the additional maturity (or show of maturity) would repair our standing, but the problem is that they'd be more effective than Trump at what they want to do, and what they want to do is very very bad.

There are only very very bad answers for the next four years. Well, hopefully, just two. But I haven't bothered to find out how many seats are up for grabs in 2018.

That's what I think. The chaos Trump creates and his lack of legislative leadership is an advantage to those who oppose the harmful GOP agenda.
 
Lots of grins! It does not surprise me you do not respect Politifact as a credible source.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/politifact/

Blows to the head tend to lower IQ. Can you post some MMA highlights?

PolitiFact is owned and operated by the alt-left Poynter Institute, which itself is connected to the Knight Foundation, Open Society Foundation, and other Progressive operations.

It might be wise for you to seek some cranial reviews before dismissing things so quickly.

https://www.poynter.org/tag/politifact/

https://www.poynter.org/2017/knight-foundation-awards-1-million-to-projects-aimed-at-fighting-misinformation/464300/

https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/press-releases/five-major-foundations-announce-groundbreaking-plans-develop-public-interest
 
I know, but Pence-Ryan will just Destroy peoples lives and they can get back at them at the Voting booth ... but right now, Trump is an Embarrassment to the office and I don't his stench can be removed for Decades.

what would Pence do to destroy "lives"/ I realize the left believes that if any income redistribution scheme is ended, that will destroy the lives of those who become dependent on the handouts. but do tell
 
PolitiFact is owned and operated by the alt-left Poynter Institute, which itself is connected to the Knight Foundation, Open Society Foundation, and other Progressive operations.

It might be wise for you to seek some cranial reviews before dismissing things so quickly.

https://www.poynter.org/tag/politifact/

https://www.poynter.org/2017/knight-foundation-awards-1-million-to-projects-aimed-at-fighting-misinformation/464300/

https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/press-releases/five-major-foundations-announce-groundbreaking-plans-develop-public-interest

You humor me. How many times did you use your dog whistle today?
Any chance of you including yourself among those with disingenuous proclivity and a highly partisan nature, thus making honest adult debate highly improbable?

No, no chance. :peace
 
It would be the more logical thing to do.Because every fraudulent claim against Trump the libs spew makes future claims against Trump less believable. After all the people who voted for Trump didn't give a rats ass that he supported liberal positions, donated money to liberal democrats and RINO republicans,praised liberal democrats and RINO republicans,supported Obama before jumping on the birther-tard band wagon or even hung out with the Clitons o numerous occasions before shouting lock her up.

Exactly right. What I don't understand is why they didn't care about the things you list. Is that R, even a phony R, really that important?
 
You humor me. How many times did you use your dog whistle today?

I don't keep count, but with so many blown by the left and their MSM partners every day, it probably seems like a lot.

Care to address the point I made about PolitiFact, or is the strawman represent the best you can do?
 
Just another extremely stupid stunt by the democrats in congress.

Even goofy Maxine Water has not signed on to this fiasco. She has been
calling for President Trump's impeachment since at least April.

Here is what Brad Sherman said about this. He introduced the Articles of impeachment. (H.Res 438)



I have introduced H.Res. 438 Articles of #Impeachment of Donald J. Trump for Obstruction of Justice. Statement here: https://t.co/0gKr8ZFg3c pic.twitter.com/yUTDAnPFuJ— Rep. Brad Sherman (@BradSherman) July 12, 2017

The California Democrat first called for Trump's impeachment in early June, but admitted that there will be no movement on any such article given that Republicans control Congress.


The whole thing is one big joke and a major waste of time! It's DOA! :)
 
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