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Trump backtracks on cyber unit with Russia after harsh criticism

cuban smokes said:
hey, you know what I like about threads? I like the idea of changing it up, although that is taboo AFA the 'rules' go ............ OOOOO, the 'rules' ........

Vote? yeah, I voted too .............

I voted for Gary Johnson :mrgreen:
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As did I. Like I could vote for either of those Republocrat crooks, lol.
 
Ikari said:
As did I. Like I could vote for either of those Republocrat crooks, lol.
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at least you & I made the right choice; we voted for the candidate that we actually wanted to vote for, instead of voting for the 'lesser of two evils' like the majority of Dems & Reps are claiming they did

I can look at myself in the mirror every day when I get up and KNOW that yes; I did NOT lie to myself .........
 
cuban smokes said:

at least you & I made the right choice; we voted for the candidate that we actually wanted to vote for, instead of voting for the 'lesser of two evils' like the majority of Dems & Reps are claiming they did

I can look at myself in the mirror every day when I get up and KNOW that yes; I did NOT lie to myself .........
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The "lesser of two evils" is just a slightly slower path to hell. It all ends up in the same place. I mean, if it were a one-off, maybe you could get by. But the past several elections have always been "lesser or two evils", and if it's just a repeated choice...well then, what's the point? Slowly dying vs quickly so? You cannot continually vote for the "lesser of two evils" and expect to end up in a better place.
 
Ikari said:
The "lesser of two evils" is just a slightly slower path to hell. It all ends up in the same place. I mean, if it were a one-off, maybe you could get by. But the past several elections have always been "lesser or two evils", and if it's just a repeated choice...well then, what's the point? Slowly dying vs quickly so? You cannot continually vote for the "lesser of two evils" and expect to end up in a better place.
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but that is the 'reality' within the minds of the Dem/Rep, rinse/repeat, two party voter in America

they some how believe they HAVE TO WIN every election; it's ALL ABOUT WINNING ........... **** America ...........

these Dem/Rep, rinse/repeat, two party voters in America have deluded themselves into believing they have no other choice than 'the lesser of two evils'

they DON'T BELIEVE in another choice besides the Dem/Rep, rinse/repeat, two party bull****

kind of ironic when you think about it; many from both sides seem to be so optimistic BUT they are lying to themselves, afflicted with a disease of the mind, heart, and soul
 
cuban smokes said:
It is not about hate; it is about 'common sense' which Trump clearly demonstrates on a daily basis he is completely void of 'common sense'

The electoral college was 'supposedly' put in place to ensure that a qualified candidate would be POTUS; that CERTAINLY has not occurred here

Trump has NO qualification for holding the office & he continually demonstrates BAD JUDGMENT, and on all matters

Again, it is not about hate; America deserves a POTUS that is qualified & that has at least half a brain

As long as Trump remains in office he will be a real threat to America, and to world peace :peace
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I didn't vote for Donald J. Tweet. I knew he was an idiot when he came on the scene back in the 70's.

That said, he is no more or less qualified to be POTUS than any of the other clowns that have held the office during these years. Certainly as qualified as McCain and Palin or Bush and Cheney.
 
Ikari said:
Yeah, but it would seem 65 million think he didn't have the qualifications to be President.

lol

Probably don't want to pull the popular vote into this.
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Why not?

It's telling that an opinion may be wrong, when 62 million people disagree with it.

Nice try, but I didn't bring the popular vote into the question, in desperation, you did.
 
ocean515 said:
Why not?

It's telling that an opinion may be wrong, when 62 million people disagree with it.

Nice try, but I didn't bring the popular vote into the question, in desperation, you did.
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there you go again, injecting bull**** into the conversation.

65 million did vote otherwise so, that would be about 3 million more that had a different opinion, which has nothing to do with desperation, as you claim.

just because there is the electoral college there were still about 3 million more voices that clearly had a different idea aka vote
 
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cuban smokes said:
Trump backtracks on cyber unit with Russia after harsh criticism

Mon Jul 10, 2017 / 10:22am EDT

Trump backtracks on cyber unit with Russia after harsh criticism | Reuters



U.S. President Donald Trump on Sunday backtracked on his push for a cyber security unit with Russia, tweeting that he did not think it could happen, hours after his proposal was harshly criticized by Republicans who said Moscow could not be trusted.

Trump said on Twitter early on Sunday that he and Russian President Vladimir Putin discussed on Friday forming "an impenetrable Cyber Security unit" to address issues like the risk of cyber meddling in elections.

The idea appeared to be a political non-starter. It was immediately scorned by several of Trump's fellow Republicans, who questioned why the United States would work with Russia after Moscow's alleged meddling in the 2016 U.S. election.

"It's not the dumbest idea I have ever heard but it's pretty close," Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina told NBC's "Meet the Press" program.

Ash Carter, who was U.S. defense secretary until the end of former Democratic President Barack Obama's administration in January, told CNN flatly: "This is like the guy who robbed your house proposing a working group on burglary."

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Why in Hell is Trump CONTINUALLY attempting to link the US with Russia?

I am sick to ****ing Hell with this ****.

****ing traitor ...............

When the Hell is America gonna come together and drive this 'commie' Trump out of the White House & into a prison cell?

As long as Trump remains in office he will be a real threat to America, and to world peace :peace
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All true,but the best thing to come out of this non-starter of an idea are the similes and metaphors from both sides to the aisle that have poked fun at it.
 
cuban smokes said:
there you go again, injecting bull**** into the conversation.

65 million did vote otherwise so, that would be about 3 million more that had a different opinion, which has nothing to do with desperation, as you claim.

just because there is the electoral college there were still about 3 million more voices that clearly had a different idea aka vote
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However, 62 million people disagree with you.

That is a fact, a concept you should spend some time trying to understand.

But that is just my opinion.

:yes:
 
ocean515 said:
However, 62 million people disagree with you.

That is a fact, a concept you should spend some time trying to understand.

But that is just my opinion.

:yes:
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the 62 million do NOT disagree with me; I voted for Gary Johnson so, I didn't vote with the 65 million ......

YOU need to stop making this a personal issue & wise the **** up

about 3 million more voters had a different opinion ****ing period; it has nothing to do with me

get it?
 
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ocean515 said:
I understand that is your opinion. 62 million people disagree with you.
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That just leaves 270 million that disagree with you.
 
Cigar said:
It's going to take Decades to Un-Fork Donald Trumps Screwups
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Nah. He's not competent enough to turn much of his "vision" (to the extent that such a thing is identifiable) into policy.


What will last longer, and be more damaging, is that both parties have now hopped on the Moral Relativism bandwagon. We are now entering the Reality TV Era of Politics.

Yay.
 
ocean515 said:
Why not?

It's telling that an opinion may be wrong, when 62 million people disagree with it.

Nice try, but I didn't bring the popular vote into the question, in desperation, you did.
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No, 62 million is Trump's popular vote total. Let's not play the dishonesty card now.

And if it's just numbers that prove an opinion wrong, then the opinion that Trump is qualified to be president is wrong since 65 million people do not agree he was qualified for the post.
 
Ikari said:
He can definitely harm American global influence and prestige. He's already done that. But he cannot destroy America.

He can definitely remove necessary pollution regulation and cause damage to the environment, but he will not destroy the Planet.

Trump is no Lex Luthor. He can cause a lot of damage, it's not that we should be flippant towards the dangers he does pose. But America and Earth are larger than Donald Trump, we'll make it through.
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I would not be so sure. People from outside the country are saying that Trump is either a traitor or a fool. How did that happen? It should have become obvious to everyone except his die-hard supporters that he has to be in the Russia pocket. Look at his history of saying soft things about Russia and Putin and his bashing America's intelligence services. No doubt, Trump is in their pocket. But again, his supporters just do not care.

Why allow him to ruin the country and the planet? Patriots need to deal with this problem now.
 
Glowpun said:
I would not be so sure. People from outside the country are saying that Trump is either a traitor or a fool. How did that happen? It should have become obvious to everyone except his die-hard supporters that he has to be in the Russia pocket. Look at his history of saying soft things about Russia and Putin and his bashing America's intelligence services. No doubt, Trump is in their pocket. But again, his supporters just do not care.

Why allow him to ruin the country and the planet? Patriots need to deal with this problem now.
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Would you rather have war with Russia or peace with Russia?
 
cpwill said:
Nah. He's not competent enough to turn much of his "vision" (to the extent that such a thing is identifiable) into policy.


What will last longer, and be more damaging, is that both parties have now hopped on the Moral Relativism bandwagon. We are now entering the Reality TV Era of Politics.

Yay.
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Sad to say ... you're correct. :3oops:
 
cuban smokes said:
if Trump is allowed to remain in office two things will happen

(1) Trump will succeed in destroying America

(2) Trump will succeed in destroying the planet


result?

we will never need another election, ever again ..............
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Oh for ****'s sake, calm down. He's clearly unfit for the job, but if all it takes to destroy the nation or the world is one bad election, in spite of our system of checks and balances, than we have earned a painful apocalyptic cleansing through sheer incompetence.
 
Jesse Booth said:
Oh for ****'s sake, calm down. He's clearly unfit for the job, but if all it takes to destroy the nation or the world is one bad election, in spite of our system of checks and balances, than we have earned a painful apocalyptic cleansing through sheer incompetence.
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we prolly deserve it anyhow
 
ocean515 said:
However, 62 million people disagree with you.

That is a fact, a concept you should spend some time trying to understand.

But that is just my opinion.

:yes:
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Roughly half a dozen posts in this thread, and I note that you have NOT... even once... defended either Trump's original statement or his backtrack. All you have done is take pot shots at the alleged "hate" from the other side, then transitioned to election numbers which is neither here nor there.

Maybe it's me, but "hate" would suggest they're irrationally wrong in their criticism, but as has been noted, you won't say they're actually wrong in the substance of their criticism of Trump, let alone defend Trump. Why is that?
 
cuban smokes said:
the 62 million do NOT disagree with me; I voted for Gary Johnson so, I didn't vote with the 65 million ......

YOU need to stop making this a personal issue & wise the **** up

about 3 million more voters had a different opinion ****ing period; it has nothing to do with me

get it?
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LOL.

62 million people do not agree with your opinion regarding President Trump.

Deal with it, and stop being so emotional about it.

:2wave:
 
cuban smokes said:
there you go again, injecting bull**** into the conversation.

65 million did vote otherwise so, that would be about 3 million more that had a different opinion, which has nothing to do with desperation, as you claim.

just because there is the electoral college there were still about 3 million more voices that clearly had a different idea aka vote
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It was not my intent to trigger you into an emotional tirade.

The simple fact is, 62 million do not agree with you.

I know, fact, apparently a challenging and quite difficult concept to deal with.
 
Ikari said:
No, 62 million is Trump's popular vote total. Let's not play the dishonesty card now.

And if it's just numbers that prove an opinion wrong, then the opinion that Trump is qualified to be president is wrong since 65 million people do not agree he was qualified for the post.
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What's interesting is to see the cognitive dissonance that plagues many people here on DP.

You're correct, 65 million would agree "the opinion" was correct.

If some people were capable of mild levels of reasoning and comprehension, they would see I never questioned that.

I simply stated the fact that 62 million people would disagree with the posters opinion. In that context, that quite a lot of people.

Stunning the emotion trigger that statement pulled in those so willing to broadcast their deficiencies.
 
radcen said:
Roughly half a dozen posts in this thread, and I note that you have NOT... even once... defended either Trump's original statement or his backtrack. All you have done is take pot shots at the alleged "hate" from the other side, then transitioned to election numbers which is neither here nor there.

Maybe it's me, but "hate" would suggest they're irrationally wrong in their criticism, but as has been noted, you won't say they're actually wrong in the substance of their criticism of Trump, let alone defend Trump. Why is that?
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If you have a problem with something I've posted, why not just skip my posts, rather than waste both of out times?

I have no obligation to meet whatever criteria you demand.

:peace
 
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