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Texas Drops Its Knife Restrictions. Prepare to Carry a Sword!

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Recently, House Bill 1935 was signed into law, making it legal to carry pretty much any edged weapon (or tool, depending on who you ask) a person wants. It removes dirks, stilettos, daggers, swords, spears, poniards and Bowie knives from Texas statute, with only a small amendment added to prevent such items from being carried in places like bars and colleges.
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Oh hell yea. I'm going to stop carrying my gun, and will walk around with a Samurai sword strapped to my waist. LOL.

In September It's Time to Carry a Sword! | Houston Press
 
I wonder if lances are legal now, too.
 
AZ has no restriction regarding the carry of edged weapons and I have yet to see a sword being carried outside of a Sikh or some other ceremonial attire.

When did TX outlaw edged weapons? When I was down there in the 80's I distinctly remember seeing people carrying balisongs and such.
 
So the umbrella or cane with the foil inside is okay in Texas. Time to make a few and sell 'em there.
 
Lutherf said:
AZ has no restriction regarding the carry of edged weapons and I have yet to see a sword being carried outside of a Sikh or some other ceremonial attire.

When did TX outlaw edged weapons? When I was down there in the 80's I distinctly remember seeing people carrying balisongs and such.
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Here's an interesting post from the UNC School of Government's Criminal Law blog - https://nccriminallaw.sog.unc.edu/knives-and-the-right-to-bear-arms/

Here's synopsis of NC law surrounding bladed weapons, NS statutes, and the 2nd Amendment, from the post.

•S. 14-269, which prohibits the concealed carrying of any “bowie knife, dirk, dagger,” or “other deadly weapon of like kind.” The statute doesn’t apply to an “ordinary pocket knife carried in a closed position.” In Matter of Dale B., 96 N.C. App. 375 (1989), the court ruled that a knife that was “about four and one-half inches in overall length, when folded,” was an ordinary pocket knife. However, the exception doesn’t cover switchblades, i.e., knives that that may be “opened by a throwing, explosive, or spring action.” So it is illegal to carry a switchblade or a fixed-blade knife in your pocket in North Carolina. Open carry appears to be OK.
•S. 14-269.2 prohibits the possession of any “bowie knife, dirk, dagger,” “switchblade knife,” or “any sharp-pointed or edged instrument” other than instructional supplies on educational property. So it is illegal to bring a pocket knife to school in North Carolina.
•S. 14-269.6 prohibits the possession of “any spring-loaded projectile knife.”
•S. 14-315 prohibits giving or selling any “bowie knife” or “dirk” to a minor.
•Many statutes address deadly weapons generally and likely apply to most knives. For example, G.S. 14-269.4 prohibits carrying “openly or concealed, any deadly weapon” in courthouses and in certain state buildings. I’m not aware of a case decided under that statute concerning the status of knives, but case law generally provides that “[t]he definition of a deadly weapon clearly encompasses a wide variety of knives.” State v. Sturdivant, 304 N.C. 293 (1981). See also State v. Walker, 204 N.C. App. 431 (2010) (concluding that a three-inch knife was a deadly weapon).
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The comments left by others at the end of the post are very interesting as well.
 
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"In 2013 it became legal to possess a switchblade"

Wow!

I thought there was a federal ban those?
 
Lutherf said:
AZ has no restriction regarding the carry of edged weapons and I have yet to see a sword being carried outside of a Sikh or some other ceremonial attire.

When did TX outlaw edged weapons? When I was down there in the 80's I distinctly remember seeing people carrying balisongs and such.
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Sikh's are a liberal pet minority so no one on the left will complain about them
 
Beaudreaux said:
Here's an interesting post from the UNC School of Government's Criminal Law blog - https://nccriminallaw.sog.unc.edu/knives-and-the-right-to-bear-arms/

Here's synopsis of NC law surrounding bladed weapons, NS statutes, and the 2nd Amendment, from the post.



The comments left by others at the end of the post are very interesting as well.
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AZ Revised Statutes - View Document - Arizona Legislature
13-3120. Knives regulated by state; state preemption; definitions

A. Except as provided in subsections C and D, a political subdivision of this state shall not enact any ordinance, rule or tax relating to the transportation, possession, carrying, sale, transfer, purchase, gift, devise, licensing, registration or use of a knife or knife making components in this state.

B. A political subdivision of this state shall not enact any rule or ordinance that relates to the manufacture of a knife and that is more prohibitive than or that has a penalty that is greater than any rule or ordinance that is related to the manufacture of any other commercial goods.

C. This section does not prohibit a political subdivision of this state from enacting and enforcing any ordinance or rule pursuant to state law, to implement or enforce state law or relating to imposing any privilege or use tax on the retail sale, lease or rental of, or the gross proceeds or gross income from the sale, lease or rental of, a knife or any knife components at a rate that applies generally to other items of tangible personal property.

D. This section does not prohibit a political subdivision of this state from regulating employees or independent contractors of the political subdivision who are acting within the course and scope of their employment or contract.

E. A political subdivision's rule or ordinance that relates to knives and that is inconsistent with or more restrictive than state law, whether enacted before or after the effective date of this amendment to this section, is null and void.

F. For the purposes of this section:

1. "Knife" means a cutting instrument and includes a sharpened or pointed blade.

2. "Political subdivision" includes any county, city, including a charter city, town, municipal corporation or special district, any board, commission or agency of a county, city, including a charter city, town, municipal corporation or special district or any other local public agency.
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I will note that, contrary to this statute, most government buildings prohibit knives of any type.
 
Lutherf said:
AZ Revised Statutes - View Document - Arizona Legislature


I will note that, contrary to this statute, most government buildings prohibit knives of any type.
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I've never understood the government's problem with a knife or sword. I can do similar damage with a tire iron or a 60 penny gutter nail.

The laws in NC were written during the ~150 years following reconstruction that the Democrats had total control of all of NC's state government's three branches. Of course, over the last few years, the GOP in Raleigh has been more concerned with what's going on in our bedrooms and nickers than they are with protecting our Constitutional rights that were trampled by their Democrat predecessors.
 
Mac77 said:
Sikh's are a liberal pet minority so no one on the left will complain about them
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If we're going to be partisan about it, the bigoted morons on the right who have several times mistaken them for Muslims might complain. A friend and colleague of my wife's was attacked and nearly killed by one of those right wing assholes. Sitting on a bench in a train station, stabbed several times....
 
Beaudreaux said:
I've never understood the government's problem with a knife or sword. I can do similar damage with a tire iron or a 60 penny gutter nail.

The laws in NC were written during the ~150 years following reconstruction that the Democrats had total control of all of NC's state government's three branches. Of course, over the last few years, the GOP in Raleigh has been more concerned with what's going on in our bedrooms and nickers than they are with protecting our Constitutional rights that were trampled by their Democrat predecessors.
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I don't know about NC but NY's knife laws came about mostly in the 40 and 50s in response to the - mostly media invented - image of scary leather jacketed thugs carrying switchblades.

Folding knives with blades more than 4 inches are illegal as is an "gravity knife" - one that can be flicked open with the wrist. Note the law doesn't say that it has to be designed to be flicked open with wrist just that it can be. End result it that if you grandad's jackknife's hinge has gotten sufficiently loose such that a police officer can open it by flicking his wrist you are guilty of carrying a illegal knife.

The NYPD is apparently very adept at opening knives in that fashion and there are numerous stories of workmen being arrested for carrying a deadly weapon when a cop was able to flick open their leatherman. The legislature has tried to amend the law twice in the last few years but hasn't been able to - mostly due to resistance from the NYPD and our idiot governor.


As an aside - the 2A should cover knives as well so if many of these laws were challenged I bet they'd be struck down on Constitutional grounds
 
humbolt said:
So the umbrella or cane with the foil inside is okay in Texas. Time to make a few and sell 'em there.
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You are a quick study, must have taken a lesson from Dick Perry. Create the supply and the demand will follow.
 
AFAIK, in fl, open carry of any edged weapon is allowed, once in a while (not to often) I belt carry large fixed blade knives. Never a problem, not to common, but not entirely uncommon here.

You just cant conceal it unless you have a CCW. I fail to see the big deal. *shrugs*
 
JasperL said:
If we're going to be partisan about it, the bigoted morons on the right who have several times mistaken them for Muslims might complain. A friend and colleague of my wife's was attacked and nearly killed by one of those right wing assholes. Sitting on a bench in a train station, stabbed several times....
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Did you ask their political affiliation before it after you called the ambulance and the Po Po?
 
CHuDWah said:
It's Texas - wouldn't a cavalry saber be more appropriate? ;)
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Nah. I've always wanted to be Samuai Tailor, the character played by John Belushi.
 
chuckiechan said:
Did you ask their political affiliation before it after you called the ambulance and the Po Po?
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No, I just know the morons who can't tell a Sikh from a Muslim before attempting to kill them are all right wingers... :roll:
 
JasperL said:
If we're going to be partisan about it, the bigoted morons on the right who have several times mistaken them for Muslims might complain. A friend and colleague of my wife's was attacked and nearly killed by one of those right wing assholes. Sitting on a bench in a train station, stabbed several times....
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This reminds me of that Texas white supremacist Mark Stroman that went on a post 9/11 killing spree. He shot three random people that he thought "looked Muslim" killing two of them.
 
reinoe said:
That's really cool. I've got four Samurai swords. Sounds like in Texas I can cos-play as Miyamoto every day instead of just on Halloween.
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I have three-two are among the best made

Howard Clark
Michael Bell

awesome close range defensive weapons
 
reinoe said:
That's really cool. I've got four Samurai swords. Sounds like in Texas I can cos-play as Miyamoto every day instead of just on Halloween.
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Bullets are so much faster than a samurai sword.
 
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