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Study Finds Temperature Adjustments Account For ‘Nearly All Of The Warming

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A new study found adjustments made to global surface temperature readings by scientists in recent years “are totally inconsistent with published and credible U.S. and other temperature data.”


“Thus, it is impossible to conclude from the three published GAST data sets that recent years have been the warmest ever – despite current claims of record setting warming,” according to a study published June 27 by two scientists and a veteran statistician.

Study Targets Adjusted Climate Data | The Daily Caller

You'd think this would be great news for those concerned about climate change, but for the activists... they don;t want to hear this.

It knocks a leg from their Socialist schemes of control and redistribution.
 
You'd think this would be great news for those concerned about climate change, but for the activists... they don;t want to hear this.

It knocks a leg from their Socialist schemes of control and redistribution.

That is the funny thing about it... It's almost like they need the world to end in order to survive...
 
You'd think this would be great news for those concerned about climate change, but for the activists... they don;t want to hear this.

It knocks a leg from their Socialist schemes of control and redistribution.

The Daily Caller is a sensationalistic publication. For the right to simulataneously rail against fake news and post articles from the Daily Caller is the height of irony.
 
You'd think this would be great news for those concerned about climate change, but for the activists... they don;t want to hear this.

It knocks a leg from their Socialist schemes of control and redistribution.

Authors:

Dr. James P. Wallace III - engineer, not a scientist
Dr. Joseph S. D’Aleo - well, he is closer. He is a meteorologist, not a climatologist.
Dr. Craig D. Idso - Whoa! A scientist, for real. Also a known crackpot.
 
The Daily Caller is a sensationalistic publication. For the right to simulataneously rail against fake news and post articles from the Daily Caller is the height of irony.

https://thsresearch.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/ef-gast-data-research-report-062717.pdf

here is the actual study.

conclusion:

While the notion that some “adjustments” to historical data might need to be made is not challenged, logically it would be expected that such historical temperature data adjustments would sometimes raise these temperatures, and sometimes lower them. This situation would mean that the impact of such adjustments on the temperature trend line slope is uncertain. However, each new version of GAST has nearly always exhibited a steeper warming linear trend over its entire history.

That was accomplished by systematically removing the previously existing cyclical temperature pattern. This was true for all three entities providing GAST data measurement, NOAA, NASA and Hadley CRU

The conclusive findings of this research are that the three GAST data sets are not a valid representation of reality. In fact, the magnitude of their historical data adjustments, that removed their cyclical temperature patterns, are totally inconsistent with published and credible U.S. and other temperature data. Thus, it is impossible to conclude from the three published GAST data sets that recent years have been the warmest ever –despite current claims of record setting warming.

Finally, since GAST data set validity is a necessary condition for EPA’s GHG/CO2 Endangerment Finding, it too is invalidated by these research findings.

basically what they are saying is that NOAA and other organization pushing this stuff are eliminating anything that would drop temperature readings downward.
that all of their adjustments are always on the warming side.

if that is the case then it shows yet again that climate science cannot be trusted.
 
Authors:

Dr. James P. Wallace III - engineer, not a scientist
Dr. Joseph S. D’Aleo - well, he is closer. He is a meteorologist, not a climatologist.
Dr. Craig D. Idso - Whoa! A scientist, for real. Also a known crackpot.

so there is something to their claims. also you don't need to be a climatologist to examine data sets and how they are used
and compare them to actual real data sets.
 
https://thsresearch.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/ef-gast-data-research-report-062717.pdf

here is the actual study.

conclusion:

While the notion that some “adjustments” to historical data might need to be made is not challenged, logically it would be expected that such historical temperature data adjustments would sometimes raise these temperatures, and sometimes lower them. This situation would mean that the impact of such adjustments on the temperature trend line slope is uncertain. However, each new version of GAST has nearly always exhibited a steeper warming linear trend over its entire history.

That was accomplished by systematically removing the previously existing cyclical temperature pattern. This was true for all three entities providing GAST data measurement, NOAA, NASA and Hadley CRU

The conclusive findings of this research are that the three GAST data sets are not a valid representation of reality. In fact, the magnitude of their historical data adjustments, that removed their cyclical temperature patterns, are totally inconsistent with published and credible U.S. and other temperature data. Thus, it is impossible to conclude from the three published GAST data sets that recent years have been the warmest ever –despite current claims of record setting warming.

Finally, since GAST data set validity is a necessary condition for EPA’s GHG/CO2 Endangerment Finding, it too is invalidated by these research findings.

basically what they are saying is that NOAA and other organization pushing this stuff are eliminating anything that would drop temperature readings downward.
that all of their adjustments are always on the warming side.

if that is the case then it shows yet again that climate science cannot be trusted.

https://www.desmogblog.com/craig-idso

According to leaked internal documents from the Heartland Institute in 2012, Craig Idso was receiving $11,600 a month from the Heartland Institute through his Center for the Study of CO2 & Global Change. [43], [44]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heartland_Institute

n the 1990s, the Heartland Institute worked with the tobacco company Philip Morris to question or deny the health risks of secondhand smoke and to lobby against smoking bans.[2]:233–34[3] In the decade after 2000, the Heartland Institute became a leading supporter of climate change denial.[4][5] It rejects the scientific consensus on global warming,[6] and says that policies to fight it would be damaging to the economy.[7]

Find me 1 peer reviewed study that says the NOAA and IPCC are incorrect, that was not funded by oil and gas.
 
so there is something to their claims. also you don't need to be a climatologist to examine data sets and how they are used
and compare them to actual real data sets.

I am not going to give any credence to claims made about scientific research made by people without the background. For the same reason I do not go to a lawyer about health problems, I do not go to an engineer about climate issues.
 
You'd think this would be great news for those concerned about climate change, but for the activists... they don;t want to hear this.

It knocks a leg from their Socialist schemes of control and redistribution.

When I was a kid we had a lot of triple digit summer days. I cannot recall one in several years, and winters have returned to being snowy. I have trouble believing a lot of these warmest ever claims.
 
When I was a kid we had a lot of triple digit summer days. I cannot recall one in several years, and winters have returned to being snowy. I have trouble believing a lot of these warmest ever claims.

Thank you for the local weather report.
 
https://www.desmogblog.com/craig-idso



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heartland_Institute



Find me 1 peer reviewed study that says the NOAA and IPCC are incorrect, that was not funded by oil and gas.

so you can't actually refute their work got it.

Stats Tampering Puts NOAA in Hot Water

Climategate, the sequel: How we are STILL being tricked with flawed data on global warming - Telegraph

yea there is a ton of proof that they have been distorting temp readings. zealots don't care about facts.
 
I am not going to give any credence to claims made about scientific research made by people without the background. For the same reason I do not go to a lawyer about health problems, I do not go to an engineer about climate issues.

no you go to a actual scientist not a warming zealot as well.
again you don't need to be a climatologist to exam data sets and how they are used.

any decent statistician can do that.

there one comment is correct adjustments might be required but any adjustment should be offset elsewhere.
in these models they are not. they are constantly being push to the high side.

this is one of the ways they busted maddoff. his hedge fund never showed losses it always showed gains.
no fund no matter what should do that. you should see trends that move it up and down over periods of time.
 
so you can't actually refute their work got it.

Stats Tampering Puts NOAA in Hot Water

Climategate, the sequel: How we are STILL being tricked with flawed data on global warming - Telegraph

yea there is a ton of proof that they have been distorting temp readings. zealots don't care about facts.

So, you can't find one not funded by libertarians who just happen to be oil magnates.

Ironic, you accuse people who care about pollution and the environment of zealotry. When the denier studies are funded by ideological zealots, whose agenda is to protect the massively consequential tenet of libertarianism; idolatry of the free market.
 
So, you can't find one not funded by libertarians who just happen to be oil magnates.

Ironic, you accuse people who care about pollution and the environment of zealotry. When the denier studies are funded by ideological zealots, whose agenda is to protect the massively consequential tenet of libertarianism; idolatry of the free market.

I just posted 2 articles that show how the numbers were distorted.
as I said zealots don't care about facts have a nice day.

it even posted the charts from the GISS adjusted temps and the raw data temps that show the exact opposite
that shouldn't be the case.
 
I just posted 2 articles that show how the numbers were distorted.
as I said zealots don't care about facts have a nice day.

it even posted the charts from the GISS adjusted temps and the raw data temps that show the exact opposite
that shouldn't be the case.

Your Newsmax article is written by Larry Bell, a professor of Architecture???

a brief googling reveals this:

While Larry Bell authors articles in the media denying man-made climate change, he has not published any articles in peer-reviewed journals on the subject of climate. [5]

https://www.desmogblog.com/larry-bell

Call me, when reuters runs a story about how all the scientists at the NOAA got mega millions from the hippie green lobby to oppress business. Until then American Conservatives are the. only. people on the planet that deny climate change.
 
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You'd think this would be great news for those concerned about climate change, but for the activists... they don;t want to hear this.

It knocks a leg from their Socialist schemes of control and redistribution.

There's too much money at stake for the Climate Industry. I mean, we're talking about hundreds of billions of dollars.
 
Your Newsmax article is written by Larry Bell, a professor of Architecture???

a brief googling reveals this:



https://www.desmogblog.com/larry-bell

Call me, when reuters runs a story about how all the scientists at the NOAA got mega millions from the hippie green lobby to oppress business. Until then American Conservatives are the. only. people on the planet that deny climate change.

Speaking of NOAA.

https://science.house.gov/news/pres...nfirms-colleagues-manipulated-climate-records
 
There's too much money at stake for the Climate Industry. I mean, we're talking about hundreds of billions of dollars.

Can you elaborate?
 
Authors:

Dr. James P. Wallace III - engineer, not a scientist
Dr. Joseph S. D’Aleo - well, he is closer. He is a meteorologist, not a climatologist.
Dr. Craig D. Idso - Whoa! A scientist, for real. Also a known crackpot.

We have had 13-year and 17-year olds correct NASA's flawed math.

LOL... you do not need to be a scientist to correct conclusions arrived from flawed data. You only have to be correct in your mathematics to correct flawed data. Did that ever occur to you? Guess not.

I guess this flewed right over your head.

I also suppose you don't like Nils Axel Mörner either... LOL.

PS. See folks... the science is not settled, especially when you've got people fudging numbers for their "models" to draw conclusions. As noted, many Leftists will not be amused by good news. It ****s up their ability to control others.

PSPS. Perhaps the real "crackpots" are those cooking the books? Ever think of that?

Tip for you. Carl Gustav Jacob Jacobi... "invert, always invert". In other words... open your mind and think a little first.
 
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Your Newsmax article is written by Larry Bell, a professor of Architecture???

a brief googling reveals this:



https://www.desmogblog.com/larry-bell

Call me, when reuters runs a story about how all the scientists at the NOAA got mega millions from the hippie green lobby to oppress business. Until then American Conservatives are the. only. people on the planet that deny climate change.

so all you can do is ad hominem that means you have no argument to refute what they said congrats. as I said zealots don't care about facts.

They do get mega millions for the green lobby it is called the IPCC.
you seem to forget that.
 
so all you can do is ad hominem that means you have no argument to refute what they said congrats. as I said zealots don't care about facts.

They do get mega millions for the green lobby it is called the IPCC.
you seem to forget that.

Why would I go to a professor of architecture who has a track record of denying climate change, for an opinion?
 
Can you elaborate?

Would you fund something as much if it wasn't needed? no you wouldn't.
these people depend on funding to keep their departments and research going.

the obtain billions of dollars in grant money to research this stuff.
if for some reason there isn't this earth ending emergency then there is no need to fund
this as much as what we were.

climate science has become a billion dollar industry.

if you don't publish a paper on how evil co2 is then you don't get your grant money.
then your department doesn't have funding for you or your project.
 
Why would I go to a professor of architecture who has a track record of denying climate change, for an opinion?

why can't you actually address the article instead of ad homineming?
the reason is you can't that simple.
 
We have had 13-year and 17-year olds correct NASA's flawed math.

LOL... you do not need to be a scientist to correct conclusions arrived from flawed data. You only have to be correct in your mathematics to correct flawed data. Did that ever occur to you? Guess not.

I guess this flewed right over your head.

I also suppose you don't like Nils Axel Mörner either... LOL.

PS. See folks... the science is not settled, especially when you've got people fudging numbers for their "models" to draw conclusions. As noted, many Leftists will not be amused by good news. It ****s up their ability to control others.

PSPS. Perhaps the real "crackpots" are those cooking the books? Ever think of that?

Tip for you. Carl Gustav Jacob Jacobi... "invert, always invert". In other words... open your mind and think a little first.

And I guess they are out there with blowtorches melting all that polar ice too. You people are so far gone it is not funny anymore. Go back to your "warming is good" meme at least that is not total denial. It's stupid as hell but this is insane.
 
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