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President Trump Questions 25 States Refusing to Hand Over Voter Information

notquiteright said:
Try this- many states are now refusing to hand over the voter data. Oklahoma, one of the bluest states in the Union with a GOP governor, GOP controlled state legislature is refusing Trump's fishing expedition and will provide only publicly available information. Several other very blue states have taken an even harder line...

so maybe many states see this as a political grand standing stunt like the birther investigation Trump waved about but never produced any compelling evidence...

And those maybes are really adding up... :peace
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Maybe
 
slick said:
'TOP DEMOCRATS Worried After Thousands of Illegal Voters Unregister in Colorado.
More than 3,000 Colorado voters withdrew their registrations since the Trump administration’s election
integrity commission requested available voter information from the states.

Hillary Clinton defeated President Donald Trump in Colorado by 136,000 votes.
Democrats are worried that may change if more voters withdraw their registrations.

Self-deporting, and now self-enforcement of voter registrations. #MAGA in progress.
Well, we always knew illegal aliens were "unregistered democrats." I guess now it's official.'
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Source?
 
I thought y'all wanted to get to the bottom of this election, if Trump was wrong about illegals voting this will prove he was wrong, but are y'all afraid it will prove he was right again?


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MrShangles said:
I thought y'all wanted to get to the bottom of this election, if Trump was wrong about illegals voting this will prove he was wrong, but are y'all afraid it will prove he was right again?


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Don't be so easily fooled. Just because they called it a "voter fraud commission" doesn't mean that it's designed to actually find out about "voter fraud". If all you do is listen to the slogans and general promises coming out of the administration, but don't pay attention to the details, you'll get played.

https://www.debatepolitics.com/general-political-discussion/290687-voter-fraud-fraud-breakdown.html

Of course, the last time this was studied, they couldn't come up with any:

In 5-Year Effort, Scant Evidence of Voter Fraud - The New York Times
 
So I guess we just worry about the Russians I see,


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Mr Person said:
Don't be so easily fooled. Just because they called it a "voter fraud commission" doesn't mean that it's designed to actually find out about "voter fraud". If all you do is listen to the slogans and general promises coming out of the administration, but don't pay attention to the details, you'll get played.

https://www.debatepolitics.com/general-political-discussion/290687-voter-fraud-fraud-breakdown.html

Of course, the last time this was studied, they couldn't come up with any:

In 5-Year Effort, Scant Evidence of Voter Fraud - The New York Times
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Given experience of Trump so far, his voter fraud commission will be the ones committing it.
 
MrShangles said:
So I guess we just worry about the Russians I see,


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No, since we've interfered in other country's elections, it's perfectly fine for the Russians to have meddled in ours, right?
Anyway, the election was rigged. The winner said so on several occasions.
 
Manc Skipper said:
Meanwhile, back at the topic, the WH has done exactly what the majority of objectors feared. They publicly released their personal data!

White House releases sensitive personal information of voters worried about their sensitive personal information | The Independent
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That's exactly why it is reasonable for states and individuals to be suspicious of WH motives. Anyone who commented had their name, phone number and email address made public -- for any nut to harass them. Knowing that, what's the odds that in the future people are going to be willing to comment on government actions? Exactly.
 
MrShangles said:
So I guess we just worry about the Russians I see,


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So it's up to us to prove Trump is wrong, yet it's not up to Trump to prove others wrong? Is it ever Trump's responsibility?
 
Mr Person said:
Don't be so easily fooled. Just because they called it a "voter fraud commission" doesn't mean that it's designed to actually find out about "voter fraud". If all you do is listen to the slogans and general promises coming out of the administration, but don't pay attention to the details, you'll get played.

https://www.debatepolitics.com/general-political-discussion/290687-voter-fraud-fraud-breakdown.html

Of course, the last time this was studied, they couldn't come up with any:

In 5-Year Effort, Scant Evidence of Voter Fraud - The New York Times
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Well yeah but this time it's Trump. Don't you remember the monumental findings of his investigation of Obama's birth certificate?
 
Mr Person said:
Don't be so easily fooled. Just because they called it a "voter fraud commission" doesn't mean that it's designed to actually find out about "voter fraud". If all you do is listen to the slogans and general promises coming out of the administration, but don't pay attention to the details, you'll get played.

https://www.debatepolitics.com/general-political-discussion/290687-voter-fraud-fraud-breakdown.html

Of course, the last time this was studied, they couldn't come up with any:

In 5-Year Effort, Scant Evidence of Voter Fraud - The New York Times
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Manc Skipper said:
Given experience of Trump so far, his voter fraud commission will be the ones committing it.
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Yup, and that's why I linked to my own thread, which lays out exactly how it will result in disenfranchised voters and how they must know that. The short version is: they deliberately requested information they knew that most states couldn't provide, and other information most would not want to provide; they would then match that with voter rolls. But because their information would necessarily be incomplete, a lot of people would be falsely identified as a misregistered voter and removed. Unless people regularly checked their registration status, that approach would mean a lot of people getting turned away on election day because they were falsely identified as an incorrectly registered voter.
 
slick said:
'TOP DEMOCRATS Worried After Thousands of Illegal Voters Unregister in Colorado.
More than 3,000 Colorado voters withdrew their registrations since the Trump administration’s election
integrity commission requested available voter information from the states.

Hillary Clinton defeated President Donald Trump in Colorado by 136,000 votes.
Democrats are worried that may change if more voters withdraw their registrations.

Self-deporting, and now self-enforcement of voter registrations. #MAGA in progress.
Well, we always knew illegal aliens were "unregistered democrats." I guess now it's official.'
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How do you know those voters are illegals ?
 
Dittohead not! said:
Same way we know they voted for Hillary, or that they voted at all: We don't.
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They've made the determination that playing to their base and suppressing the vote will win elections .
 
"n 2014, a disturbing study was released by political scientists at Old Dominion University. Their work showed that a significant percentage of
foreign nationals residing in the United States, whether lawfully or unlawfully present, were registered to vote in US elections—and that a
significant number of them actually have voted in recent years—6.4 percent in 2008 and 2.2 percent in 2010. That is enough to have swayed
election outcomes in some states: “there is reason to believe non-citizen voting changed one state’s Electoral College votes in 2008, delivering
North Carolina to Obama, and that non-citizen votes have also led to Democratic victories in congressional races including a critical 2008
Sen- ate race [in Minnesota] that delivered for Democrats a 60-vote filibuster-proof majority in the Senate.” It is, of course, illegal for
noncitizens to vote in federal and state elections. But this study suggests that hundreds of thousands of illegal votes may have been cast
in the United States in every federal election."
 
slick said:
"n 2014, a disturbing study was released by political scientists at Old Dominion University. Their work showed that a significant percentage of
foreign nationals residing in the United States, whether lawfully or unlawfully present, were registered to vote in US elections—and that a
significant number of them actually have voted in recent years—6.4 percent in 2008 and 2.2 percent in 2010. That is enough to have swayed
election outcomes in some states: “there is reason to believe non-citizen voting changed one state’s Electoral College votes in 2008, delivering
North Carolina to Obama, and that non-citizen votes have also led to Democratic victories in congressional races including a critical 2008
Sen- ate race [in Minnesota] that delivered for Democrats a 60-vote filibuster-proof majority in the Senate.” It is, of course, illegal for
noncitizens to vote in federal and state elections. But this study suggests that hundreds of thousands of illegal votes may have been cast
in the United States in every federal election."
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Interesting quote. Who is being quoted?
 
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