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Public Accounts by Friends Show James Comey Leaked While FBI Director

holbritter said:
:doh I'm not talking classified or not. I have been convinced it was not. I am talking about when he testified in June, he said he decided to leak the memo on the May 12th. He lied, since he leaked it before that, or parts of it wouldn't have showed up in the news on May 11th.
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And, again, by this definition, a "leak" means sharing any details of any private conversation with Trump with anyone. And he didn't "lie" about anything. He was asked, on May 3, were you the source for any news story. On that date, the answer was no. He was NOT asked, "have you shared the details of any conversation with Trump with any of your friends or advisors" nor could he see in the future and know that Witte or others would "leak" those conversations with Comey to the press.

When he testified in June, EVERYONE up there, the Senators, that gave one damn had read Witte's accounts of his conversations with Comey about the Trump meeting and other conversations. They did not ask about those conversations. They DID ask about the memo, and he testified entirely truthful about how, to whom, and why he leaked that memo.

If you want to say he "lied" then provide the question asked Comey and the lie he told, and be specific. I'd like quotes of both so we can both know exactly what was asked and what the response was.
 
JasperL said:
And, again, by this definition, a "leak" means sharing any details of any private conversation with Trump with anyone. And he didn't "lie" about anything. He was asked, on May 3, were you the source for any news story. On that date, the answer was no. He was NOT asked, "have you shared the details of any conversation with Trump with any of your friends or advisors" nor could he see in the future and know that Witte or others would "leak" those conversations with Comey to the press.

When he testified in June, EVERYONE up there, the Senators, that gave one damn had read Witte's accounts of his conversations with Comey about the Trump meeting and other conversations. They did not ask about those conversations. They DID ask about the memo, and he testified entirely truthful about how, to whom, and why he leaked that memo.

If you want to say he "lied" then provide the question asked Comey and the lie he told, and be specific. I'd like quotes of both so we can both know exactly what was asked and what the response was.
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Way to ruin a perfectly good false narrative, you try and you try to make alt facts, and alt leaks relevant and what thanks do you get? Questions and Logic, always with the questions and logic. Can't you just let Trump ruin this country for everyone but rich white people in peace? Is that to much to ask?
 
Threegoofs said:
Selectively?

You wanted him to leak to Sean Hannity too?

When one sees a violation of ethics, reporting on it is ethical. And he is going through appropriate channels as well, since these people will certainly want to follow up on the reported unethical behavior.

I know the melting snowflakes out there are just aghast that bad information about their dear leader has made it on to Fox/State TV, but they're gonna have to face it sooner or later.
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Selectively leaking in that he didn't leak all the facts, just the ones detrimental to the administration. The rest of your spin is asinine and childish.
 
JasperL said:
And, again, by this definition, a "leak" means sharing any details of any private conversation with Trump with anyone. And he didn't "lie" about anything. He was asked, on May 3, were you the source for any news story. On that date, the answer was no. He was NOT asked, "have you shared the details of any conversation with Trump with any of your friends or advisors" nor could he see in the future and know that Witte or others would "leak" those conversations with Comey to the press.

When he testified in June, EVERYONE up there, the Senators, that gave one damn had read Witte's accounts of his conversations with Comey about the Trump meeting and other conversations. They did not ask about those conversations. They DID ask about the memo, and he testified entirely truthful about how, to whom, and why he leaked that memo.

If you want to say he "lied" then provide the question asked Comey and the lie he told, and be specific. I'd like quotes of both so we can both know exactly what was asked and what the response was.
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COLLINS: And finally, did you show copies of your memos to anyone outside of the Department of Justice?

COMEY: Yes.

COLLINS: And to whom did you show copies?

COMEY: I asked — the president tweeted on Friday, after I got fired, that I better hope there’s not tapes. I woke up in the middle of the night on Monday night, because it didn’t dawn on me originally that there might be corroboration for our conversation. There might be a tape.

And my judgment was, I needed to get that out into the public square. And so I asked a friend of mine to share the content of the memo with a reporter. Didn’t do it myself, for a variety of reasons. But I asked him to, because I thought that might prompt the appointment of a special counsel. And so I asked a close friend of mine to do it.

COLLINS: And was that Mr. Wittes?

COMEY: No, no.

COLLINS: Who was that?

COMEY: A good friend of mine who’s a professor at Columbia Law School.


So again, how did info from his memo end up in the news on the May 11th, when he woke up in the middle of the night after the Trump tweet (May 12th) and deciding to show the memo? Now, I think you're playing with words with me, and its not necessary. If you need any further information, please look yourself.
 
ThoughtEx. said:
Way to ruin a perfectly good false narrative, you try and you try to make alt facts, and alt leaks relevant and what thanks do you get? Questions and Logic, always with the questions and logic. Can't you just let Trump ruin this country for everyone but rich white people in peace? Is that to much to ask?
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Well, if he would answer my question instead up bringing up the same thing....eh :shrug:
 
OpportunityCost said:
Selectively leaking in that he didn't leak all the facts, just the ones detrimental to the administration. The rest of your spin is asinine and childish.
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Which facts did he withhold?

And how do you know those facts if he withheld them?
 
holbritter said:
So again, how did info from his memo end up in the news on the May 11th, when he woke up in the middle of the night after the Trump tweet (May 12th) and deciding to show the memo? Now, I think you're playing with words with me, and its not necessary. If you need any further information, please look yourself.
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The memo describes Comey's account of the dinner. It's very possible Comey can recount the details and discuss them with others without looking at the memo because he lived it and remembers what happened.

And the NYT story on May 11 didn't quote from any memo. Here it is: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/11/us/politics/trump-comey-firing.html?_r=0

WASHINGTON — Only seven days after Donald J. Trump was sworn in as president, James B. Comey has told associates, the F.B.I. director was summoned to the White House for a one-on-one dinner with the new commander in chief.

The conversation that night in January, Mr. Comey now believes, was a harbinger of his downfall this week as head of the F.B.I., according to two people who have heard his account of the dinner.
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And we know because Witte told us several times in several outlets that Comey discussed the dinner with him prior to May 3. Comey may have discussed the dinner with others as well. Witte and one other person, or perhaps two others, leaked what Comey TOLD THEM about the meeting.

Furthermore, your quotes are from his June testimony, I think (you didn't provide a link) and at that point, again, everyone knew about Witte's meetings, what Comey told Witte, etc. because Witte told us all about those meetings with Comey, what was said. How can you accuse him of lying about those meetings when Comey was not asked about those early meetings, or who might have been the source for the May 11 NYT story?
 
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JasperL said:
The memo describes Comey's account of the dinner. It's very possible Comey can recount the details and discuss them with others without looking at the memo because he lived it and remembers what happened.

And the NYT story on May 11 didn't quote from any memo. Here it is: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/11/us/politics/trump-comey-firing.html?_r=0



And we know because Witte told us several times in several outlets that Comey discussed the dinner with him prior to May 3. Comey may have discussed the dinner with others as well. Witte and one other person, or perhaps two others, leaked what Comey TOLD THEM about the meeting.

Furthermore, your quotes are from his June testimony, I think (you didn't provide a link) and at that point, again, everyone knew about Witte's meetings, what Comey told Witte, etc. because Witte told us all about those meetings with Comey, what was said. How can you accuse him of lying about those meetings when Comey was not asked about those early meetings, or who might have been the source for the May 11 NYT story?
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I swear...you've explained it to them like 32 times, and they keep on circling around to the same old goofiness as if they never heard it or don't care about facts and logic. It's Groundhog Day.

At some point, it becomes clear - providing raw, empirical evidence to a Trump Cultist is futile. Totally futile. Nothing sinks in. Credit to your insightful posts and your unending patience.

You're a better person than me. I tire of such willful obtuseness after trying 20 ways from Sunday to explain simple facts, dates and evidence.
 
Threegoofs said:
Which facts did he withhold?

And how do you know those facts if he withheld them?
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Trump was not under investigation. Comey refused to verify that. He could have even hedged it with "at this time". He absolutely withheld that fact.
 
CMPancake said:
"Leaking" private conversations or personal memos isn't a crime so legally standing I fail to see what the issue is here.
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Those are not "private memo's". Written in government vehicles, government premises, on government stationary, on government time and the content related to POTUS. Nope. That's government material, and as it has to do with the president... I believe but could be wrong... it's also not to be leaked. And especially not after being fired.

Comey broke the law: 18 U.S.C. § 641 provides that it is a federal crime to, without authority, convey a record of the United States, in this case an FBI record he admits under oath he leaked after being fired.”
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OpportunityCost said:
Trump was not under investigation. Comey refused to verify that. He could have even hedged it with "at this time". He absolutely withheld that fact.
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Maybe he wasn't. How would you know?

The only thing we know is that it's highly inappropriate for a President to ask the FBI director if they are under investigation.
 
CMPancake said:
"Leaking" private conversations or personal memos isn't a crime so legally standing I fail to see what the issue is here.
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Because it is legal doesn't necessarily mean you should do it.
 
Threegoofs said:
Maybe he wasn't. How would you know?

The only thing we know is that it's highly inappropriate for a President to ask the FBI director if they are under investigation.
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We know because Comey said as much in testimony to Congress on live television. Maybe you shouldn't be commenting if you don't know what the **** is going on.
 
holbritter said:
You don't see anything wrong with the head of the FBI gossiping with his friends about what the President says to him in private?? Especially when said friend is in the "news" business? And may have lied about it when he testified?

Uhm. Ok. I guess we won't agree on this one.
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It depends upon one's perspective. If one percieves Trump's pressure to drop the investigation as unethical then yes it is very appropriate.

If you think "pressure" is too strong word choice and Trump was just sharing his hopes and wishes with his good friend Comey, then it probably is not appropriate.

"I hope you....", comming from a boss is much more than sharing hopes and wishes.

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