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Obama intel agency secretly conducted illegal searches on Americans for years

Redress said:
Based on the number of threads on this topic, apparently a whole lot of conservatives read it. How reliable they are remains to be seen.
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Just googled it and it looks like a lot of non-msm reporting this. Wonder why CNN, the WT and NYT isn't picking it up yet.
 
holbritter said:
Just googled it and it looks like a lot of non-msm reporting this. Wonder why CNN, the WT and NYT isn't picking it up yet.
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You're kidding, right?

CNN, the WT and NYT are far too busy with the Trump / Russian collusion CT than even to cover the Manchester bombing (they reported a long time after the story broke, if what I read is accurate) much less the violation of US citizens 4th amendment rights by their favored political radical.
 
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Chillfolks said:
Bush set down the ground work for a domestic spy program with the enthusiastic support of many Democrats. Obama comes along and expands the program to the next level with the support of Republicans.
All sold as the price we pay for the illusion safety.

But lets just keep fingerprinting and claim but those guys are worse
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This!!
 
zimmer said:
Felonious Barack Hussein Obama.

Demokrats imitating the worst of their KGB brethren. Why is this not surprising in the least?
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What if I strongly disagree with any misuse of the NSA under Obama (targeting foreign officials, let's not forget that) while I also strongly disagree with the previous and continued use of the NSA to target foreign officials. You know, if I consistently disagree with American intercepts of any target that a court doesn't have reason to believe is a hostile party or is directly associated with hostile parties to the United States?

Would the consistency of my opinion make your head explode, or more likely, will you ignore my post and only respond to people who want to play partisan?
 
Does this actually have much to do with Obama?
 
eohrnberger said:
You're kidding, right?

CNN, the WT and NYT are far too busy with the Trump / Russian collusion CT than even to cover the Manchester bombing (they reported a long time after the story broke, if what I read is accurate) much less the violation of US citizens 4th amendment rights by their favored political radical.
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Is Fox running the story? Any MSM?
 
reinoe said:
WTF? Are you joking?
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No.

"The National Security Agency under former President Barack Obama"

Intelligence agencies act with a certain amount of discretion. As mentioned above this kind of thing started before Obama became President and I imagine it continues now. Not to mention, NSA spy capabilities go far beyond what is alluded to in that in the article (i.e. mass dragnet surveillance), as well as far beyond the technical understanding of any of our Presidents (or, frankly, their staff)

 
Chillfolks said:
About 2500 a month in medical bills for a family member. Giving up any sort of privacy in my home.
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Did you move into a subway station? WTF are you talking about. Any data from surveillance under these new laws can only be used in terrorism investigations and prosecutions. You didn't do that did you?
 
danarhea said:
Actually, there is plenty to see. Bush began the program. Obama promised to end it, but expanded it.
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Bush and Obama did NOT do the same thing. Bush had the NSA tap into the AT&T phone trunks and surveil the CONTENT of all calls in the US and going overseas. This was discovered in the discovery phase of a trial of a purported terrorist, here in the US. It was illegal because they had no court order to listen to the content of the calls. Under Obama, NSA did not listen to the content of calls without a court order. They did gather the metadata about the call, what number called what number, how long did they talk, data and time.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/16/politics/bush-lets-us-spy-on-callers-without-courts.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/08/...tion-ruled-illegal-by-appeals-court.html?_r=0
 
Slingshot Bob said:
There has been rampant domestic spying likely since WW1. On both sides. WAKE UP, BOTH SIDES. Quit being blinded by partisanship, the intelligence communitys are the enemy of the people, no matter who is in office.
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Completely agree - it bothered me two years ago too, when the story first broke. https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying

Hell, the term Homeland Security got my back up.
 
Angelus said:
Completely agree - it bothered me two years ago too, when the story first broke. https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying

Hell, the term Homeland Security got my back up.
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Me to, I was disturbed by the "patriot" act. That only brought it out in the open. These people break laws with impunity and consider them selves the elite, chosen ones. The scum of the earth.
 
yankintx said:
The OP should question his own Dear Leaders Russkie connections and stop being so obvious partisan.
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Oh the irony.


Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/04/...sia-billionaires-corporations/amp/?amp_js_v=9

"The headline on the website Pravda trumpeted President Vladimir V. Putin’s latest coup, its nationalistic fervor recalling an era when its precursor served as the official mouthpiece of the Kremlin: “Russian Nuclear Energy Conquers the World.”

The article, in January 2013, detailed how the Russian atomic energy agency, Rosatom, had taken over a Canadian company with uranium-mining stakes stretching from Central Asia to the American West. The deal made Rosatom one of the world’s largest uranium producers and brought Mr. Putin closer to his goal of controlling much of the global uranium supply chain.

But the untold story behind that story is one that involves not just the Russian president, but also a former American president and a woman who would like to be the next one."
 
Whythink said:
You sure the Republikans didn't make all surveillance legal with unconstitutional "Patriot" Act?

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With the Patriot Act, you at least have to go to a FISA court and get a warrant rubber stamped. Obama and Bush didn't even do that. Both their actions were clearly illegal, even under Patriot Act rules.

Sent from my ass, using flatulence. :mrgreen:
 
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The liberal obama apologiests are sick puppies.

The FISA court says that Obama violated the law.

His actions moved America several steps closer to a banana republic dictatorship and all they want to talk about is trump and russia
 
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danarhea said:
With the Patriot Act, you at least have to go to a FISA court and get a warrant rubber stamped. Obama and Bush didn't even do that. Both their actions were clearly illegal, even under Patriot Act rules.

Sent from my ass, using flatulence. :mrgreen:
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The fisa court condemned obama not bush.
 
This is a million times worse than Watergate.
 
Whythink said:
You sure the Republikans didn't make all surveillance legal with unconstitutional "Patriot" Act?

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The USA Patriot Act was passed by a huge margin. That is, it was a bipartisan effort, for sure, passed in absentia in the middle of the night because of anthrax attacks in the mail.

In fact, in the US Senate, only Russ Feingold voted against it. He was a (D)

But Obama is every bit the domestic enemy of the US Constitution that George Bush was.
 
Mac77 said:
The liberal obama apologiests are sick puppies.

The FISA court says that Obama violated the law.

His actions moved America several steps closer to a banana republic dictatorship and all they want to talk about is trump and russia
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I'm reminded of Bob Dylan's lyrics, "I don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows". No, I don't need the FISA court to tell me years later what I knew as it was happening--Barack is and was a domestic enemy of the US Constitution. :mrgreen:
 
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