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Obama intel agency secretly conducted illegal searches on Americans for years

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The National Security Agency under former President Barack Obama routinely violated American privacy protections while scouring through overseas intercepts and failed to disclose the extent of the problems until the final days before Donald Trump was elected president last fall, according to once top-secret documents that chronicle some of the most serious constitutional abuses to date by the U.S. intelligence community.
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The normally supportive court excoriated administration officials, saying the failure to disclose the extent of the violations earlier amounted to a “institutional lack of candor” and that the improper searches constituted a “very serious Fourth Amendment issue,” according to a recently unsealed court document dated April 26, 2017.
The admitted violations undercut one of the primary defenses that the intelligence community and Obama officials have used in recent weeks to justify their snooping into incidental NSA intercepts about Americans.
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Barack Obama's team secretly disclosed years of illegal NSA searches spying on Americans | Circa News - Learn. Think. Do.

A: I want a better source.
B: If this holds as reported, it really puts a negative light on Obama's administration.
 
:lol:

We expect no better from those desperately clinging to 45's agenda and grasping at anything to divert attention from POTUS and his cabal.
 
It has been a big problem. The Intelligence Community has been the Wild West since the War on Terror really took off. I know from personal experience those kinds of abuses were rampant under W and Obama. I can't imagine it has gotten any better.
 
Domestic spying is a tough deal. I'm a big fan of personal liberty and I believe it's been eroding. However, even though I rarely agreed with him, there is something that Obama said that I agree with: “I think it’s important to recognize that you can’t have 100% security and also then have 100 % privacy, and zero inconvenience.”
 
I hope it does turn out to be true and gets blown wide open. Maybe the people who kept telling me "IF YA AINT GOT NOTHIN TO HIDE" will finally figure this **** out. The executive branch got handed the power to listen in on our phone calls without a warrant and half our goddamned population shrugged their shoulders or, even worse, called me a traitor for objecting to that authority.
 
Renae said:
Barack Obama's team secretly disclosed years of illegal NSA searches spying on Americans | Circa News - Learn. Think. Do.

A: I want a better source.
B: If this holds as reported, it really puts a negative light on Obama's administration.
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IF is the biggest word in the English language...

But you keep hoping, The dangers of mega data collection have long been known. But why stop at Obama, BushII demanded the ability to 'fight terrorism' and the rabid right applauded...

Silly rabid right... :peace
 
notquiteright said:
IF is the biggest word in the English language...

But you keep hoping, The dangers of mega data collection have long been known. But why stop at Obama, BushII demanded the ability to 'fight terrorism' and the rabid right applauded...

Silly rabid right... :peace
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No it isn't. it's Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis.

Well.....in the dictionary maybe. :2razz:
 
Skeptic Bob said:
It has been a big problem. The Intelligence Community has been the Wild West since the War on Terror really took off. I know from personal experience those kinds of abuses were rampant under W and Obama. I can't imagine it has gotten any better.
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Don't forget The War on Drugs the twin sister of The War on Terror.
 
azgreg said:
Domestic spying is a tough deal. I'm a big fan of personal liberty and I believe it's been eroding. However, even though I rarely agreed with him, there is something that Obama said that I agree with: “I think it’s important to recognize that you can’t have 100% security and also then have 100 % privacy, and zero inconvenience.”
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I have my own say that goes, "A free society has to accept some inherent risk."

For someone of more import than me, a mere internet shlub, I counter your quote with this one, and it really shows how devoid of ideological understanding Obama truly was.

"If you want total security, go to prison. There you're fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only thing lacking... is freedom." - Dwight D. Eisenhower
 
Fishking said:
Don't forget The War on Drugs the twin sister of The War on Terror.
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Absolutely. But I am a retired intelligence officer, not a retired cop. So I am not as familiar with the shady **** that goes on behind the scenes in support of the War on Drugs.
 
Parrish said:
:lol:

We expect no better from those desperately clinging to 45's agenda and grasping at anything to divert attention from POTUS and his cabal.
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Maybe it is time to pursue charges against Obama, Hillary and Lois Lerner.
 
SMTA said:
You can thank Bush and his ****ing Patriot Act for the beginning of the erosion of American's privacy.
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The Patriot Act was pass through Congress with overwhelming bipartisan support so this comment is very misleading.
 
Fishking said:
The Patriot Act was pass through Congress with overwhelming bipartisan support so this comment is very misleading.
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Originated by Sensenbrenber R WI to the house.

Bush signed it. He could have vetoed it.

I am quite OK blaming Bush.
 
SMTA said:
Originated by Sensenbrenber R WI to the house.

Bush signed it. He could have vetoed it.

I am quite OK blaming Bush.
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Of course you are. However, objective people will note that it was almost a unanimous vote and I remember a lot of U.S. citizens crying for something, anything, to be done. If blaming one person helps ease your cognitive dissonance, go for it.
 
Fishking said:
Of course you are. However, objective people will note that it was almost a unanimous vote and I remember a lot of U.S. citizens crying for something, anything, to be done. If blaming one person helps ease your cognitive dissonance, go for it.
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I don't care who cried, and that it was a unanimous vote.

It violates the 4A, period.

It was a bull**** response that accomplished nothing.

It took years to do really important things like reinforce cockpit doors.

**** Congress and **** Bush.
 
Parrish said:
:lol:

We expect no better from those desperately clinging to 45's agenda and grasping at anything to divert attention from POTUS and his cabal.
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Actually, this is a quite serious issue. Obama DID spy on Americans. True, Bush did it first, but Obama expanded that program after promising in his campaign to end it. There is dishonesty from both sides here.

1) Democrats are attempting to hijack the thread and turn it into a thread about Trump.

2) Republicans are claiming this is all on Obama, even though the program was started by Bush.

Douchebaggery all around.
 
SMTA said:
**** Congress and **** Bush.
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At least your admitting that it was a whole lot more people than Bush now. I agree that it's a horrible piece of legislation but Obama has only helped make it even worse. No one is clean here. The only one that seems to have the most solid standing of not being included is Rand Paul.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...3f407e5a9e9_story.html?utm_term=.f2e0ac395993

Sen. Rand Paul spent most of Wednesday talking.

Paul took to the Senate floor at 1:18 p.m. Wednesday, interrupting a debate on a trade bill, to speak against a reauthorization of the Patriot Act. With the exception of breaks to allow colleagues to speak, he talked, and stood, for nearly 11 hours before yielding the floor just before midnight.

The Kentucky Republican’s marathon seizure of the Senate came after a week of repeatedly threatening to filibuster a reauthorization of the Patriot Act — a fight he conceded Monday he cannot win, because he does not have the votes.

“Are you really willing to give up your liberty for security?” Paul asked.
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danarhea said:
2) Republicans are claiming this is all on Obama, even though the program was started by Bush.
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*started by everyone. It passed through Congress almost unanimously.

That aside, Obama took many of the things from the Bush era and put in on steroids. I remember the protests against the Bush drone strikes and then those protests basically disappeared when Obama took office, even though what he did with drones made Bush look tame.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Do you mean to say there is a chance you were fooled for all those years by Barack's silver tongue and lip service? If so, you may be able to cast off the darkness imposed by our media. Good luck. :peace
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I'm not saying that, I'm saying the report as reported. If it's legit...
 
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