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Trump administration rejects 99% of Hurricane Matthew N.C. funds

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Federal government is broke. That's a good enough explanation.

Good enough of an explanation to refuse hurricane relief?

As a liberal democrat, i'm often accused of hating conservatives and republicans. I find this accusation at odds with my outrage that the President would so carelessly ignore the suffering of his own constituents that he would turn them down without any explanation.
 
Wow, President Trump shows us how much he cares about the people who voted for him:



Trump administration rejects 99% of Hurricane Matthew N.C. funds - NY Daily News

I wonder how much Americans will have to suffer before conservatives acknowledge the error of turning a blind eye to the suffering of others.

So what does this mean then? --

So far, North Carolina has secured $1.4 billion in state and federal funds for Hurricane Matthew recovery

^^Last line in your link.

Something doesn't add up.
 
Wow, President Trump shows us how much he cares about the people who voted for him:



Trump administration rejects 99% of Hurricane Matthew N.C. funds - NY Daily News

I wonder how much Americans will have to suffer before conservatives acknowledge the error of turning a blind eye to the suffering of others.
The country is going broke at what point are you going to quit advocating for more spending?? Caring?? You won't believe the level of suffering that will occur if both parties don't cut spending and get the country solvent. At the current path I can promise you some very bad things will eventually happen.... Venezuela???

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So what does this mean then? --



^^Last line in your link.

Something doesn't add up.

Ya, what happened here is that Washington has already given them at least $600 million and the state is flush with cash but they dont want to spend their own money so they have resisted, waiting for Washington to ride to the rescue. Trump decided "Screw you". There is also a huge problem now with people refusing to pay for flood insurance expecting other people to pay the full cost of their loses if they happen, and of course the constant problem of disaster scamming where people claim losses that they never had, as well as states using disasters to beg Washington for money to do other things that they want to. In addition Hurricane floyd was supposed to be a wake-up call, Washington spent big to help them out with long term hurricane preparations (though they wanted still more of course), yet here they are with their fat hands out again.

Following the events of Hurricane Floyd, Governor Hunt requested $5.3 billion from the federal government
to help the state recover from Hurricane Floyd, and received $2.2 billion in aid.
https://www.ecu.edu/renci/Floyd/index_files/FloydSummaryReport.pdf
The word is in: It is up to NC policymakers to lead on Hurricane Matthew recovery - The Progressive Pulse
HUD awards $65 million for Hurricane Matthew recovery in S.C. | Palmetto Politics | postandcourier.com
NC receives $198 million grant for Hurricane Matthew recovery - WWAY TV3


Note: They have gotten at least $600 million and its probably more, they wanted another $930 million...so they have gotten 600/1530 or 39.2%. With Floyd they got 41.5%, but we the nation were extremely generous then and everybody understood that. I say that they dont have much to bitch about....use their own money to fix things, and encourage people to pay for insurance. Either that or move.



Of course "Trump will only give the needy 1%, cause he is an asshole" makes for a much better headline when the agenda is to get the parasite out of town ASAP.
 
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I see that I messed up one of the links on my post about. Since I wrote that I have also found that not counted in my 600 number was all of the Fema spending for immediate relief....I think I noticed a $70 million number for NC, but dont quote me on that.
 
Wow, President Trump shows us how much he cares about the people who voted for him:



Trump administration rejects 99% of Hurricane Matthew N.C. funds - NY Daily News

I wonder how much Americans will have to suffer before conservatives acknowledge the error of turning a blind eye to the suffering of others.

If conservatives in federal government actually put into law their mantra of "there was only one intent of the 10th and I know it," then it will be up in the air. The question will then become how well they can lie to the poor red states that suddenly get cut off from federal dollars from *ahem* other states about the cause of their woes. Will the ability to evacuate only X% be down to the evil liberals stopping help? Or will it be down to the fact that there's a lot less help because conservatives finally got their way and shoveled just about everything onto the states?

But don't fret! There's free markets and stuff. All those poor people can just schlep across the country to blue states that will provide disaster relief. Leaving behind.....






Well, basically, nobody is supposed to think that far and maybe few can....
 
So what does this mean then? --

^^Last line in your link.

Something doesn't add up.

Well, it is rather easy to make it look like things don't add up if one cuts out the relevant facts - a particularly slimey move when "one" is complaining about the cutting out of relevant facts.






Also from the article: North Carolina asked for $929 million from the government in its effort to recover from the disaster last year. The Trump administration has agreed to give it only $6.1 million — less than 1% of what the state said it needed.


Also from the article:
"The state sustained an estimated $4.8 billion in damages when the hurricane ravaged the area last October, according to the governor’s office. Hurricane Matthew killed nearly 30 people in North Carolina, and damaged more than 100,000 homes and buildings."


And what led to your quote, cherry-picked in haste? This did:



Cooper wrote that he and state legislators collaborated to come up with a “conservative” funding request. North Carolina needs most of the federal funds for housing and public buildings — “our state’s most critical and immediate needs,” as the governor put it. The money the Trump administration has offered is not enough to cover even one of the state’s multiple recovery requests. North Carolina asked for a combined $600.6 million for housing repairs and elevation, as well as $39 million for small businesses, $37 million for health services, $43 million for public facilities and $92.6 million for agriculture recovery. The White House offered no public explanation for denying the funds to North Carolina, a swing state Trump won in the presidential election. So far, North Carolina has secured $1.4 billion in state and federal funds for Hurricane Matthew recovery.






Must we do math?

Damage: 4.8 billion
Requested from feds: 0.600 billion
Also requested: 0.929 billion
Received from feds: 0.0061 billion
{edit: I see someone has claimed they got 600 mil already, then disclaimed it. Either way, point stands}.

So now comes that sentence, "So far, North Carolina has secured $1.4 billion in state and federal funds for Hurricane Matthew recovery."

State AND federal it says. Well, the federal appears to be 0.0061 billion, so that means that everything between 0.0061 and 1.4 billion are STATE FUNDS, not federal funds. (Unless someone can demonstrate the article itself is factually wrong. I don't trust NY daily news).


Meaning.....in turn.....

Damage: 4.8 billion
Federal funding: 0.0061 billion
State funding: 1.393 billion
Needed over time: 3.4009 billion
 
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Note: They have gotten at least $600 million and its probably more,

"The Trump administration has agreed to give it only $6.1 million — less than 1% of what the state said it needed."


Hurricane Matthew came under Obama. Oct. 2016. To the extent they have funding over that 0.0061 billion, it came from Obama. (You have already disclaimed your prior post)> But of course, we need to credit that to Trump.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Matthew#United_States_2
Trump administration rejects 99% of Hurricane Matthew N.C. funds - NY Daily News





If the federal government isn't going to give relief to the states, why in the precise **** are we the United States of America? What's the point of being allegedly "united"? We're going to sneer at disaster relief now and say "they got enough"? If we're that tribal, we shouldn't have the country we - ok some of us - pretend to "love."

(Don't worry. I know nobody defending Trump thought that far. It was the usual. He say Trump bad ---> I say Trump good and HE bad!)
 
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"The Trump administration has agreed to give it only $6.1 million — less than 1% of what the state said it needed."


Hurricane Matthew came under Obama. Oct. 2016. To the extent they have funding over that 0.0061 billion, it came from Obama. (You have already disclaimed your prior post)> But of course, we need to credit that to Trump.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Matthew#United_States_2
Trump administration rejects 99% of Hurricane Matthew N.C. funds - NY Daily News





If the federal government isn't going to give relief to the states, why in the precise **** are we the United States of America? What's the point of being allegedly "united"? We're going to sneer at disaster relief now and say "they got enough"? If we're that tribal, we shouldn't have the country we - ok some of us - pretend to "love."

(Don't worry. I know nobody defending Trump thought that far. It was the usual. He say Trump bad ---> I say Trump good and HE bad!)
"The state says it needed".

I need a million bucks to buy a pack of cigarettes. Can you help a brother out?
 
Well, it is rather easy to make it look like things don't add up if one cuts out the relevant facts - a particularly slimey move when "one" is complaining about the cutting out of relevant facts.






Also from the article: North Carolina asked for $929 million from the government in its effort to recover from the disaster last year. The Trump administration has agreed to give it only $6.1 million — less than 1% of what the state said it needed.


Also from the article:
"The state sustained an estimated $4.8 billion in damages when the hurricane ravaged the area last October, according to the governor’s office. Hurricane Matthew killed nearly 30 people in North Carolina, and damaged more than 100,000 homes and buildings."


And what led to your quote, cherry-picked in haste? This did:



Cooper wrote that he and state legislators collaborated to come up with a “conservative” funding request. North Carolina needs most of the federal funds for housing and public buildings — “our state’s most critical and immediate needs,” as the governor put it. The money the Trump administration has offered is not enough to cover even one of the state’s multiple recovery requests. North Carolina asked for a combined $600.6 million for housing repairs and elevation, as well as $39 million for small businesses, $37 million for health services, $43 million for public facilities and $92.6 million for agriculture recovery. The White House offered no public explanation for denying the funds to North Carolina, a swing state Trump won in the presidential election. So far, North Carolina has secured $1.4 billion in state and federal funds for Hurricane Matthew recovery.






Must we do math?

Damage: 4.8 billion
Requested from feds: 0.600 billion
Also requested: 0.929 billion
Received from feds: 0.0061 billion
{edit: I see someone has claimed they got 600 mil already, then disclaimed it. Either way, point stands}.

So now comes that sentence, "So far, North Carolina has secured $1.4 billion in state and federal funds for Hurricane Matthew recovery."

State AND federal it says. Well, the federal appears to be 0.0061 billion, so that means that everything between 0.0061 and 1.4 billion are STATE FUNDS, not federal funds. (Unless someone can demonstrate the article itself is factually wrong. I don't trust NY daily news).


Meaning.....in turn.....

Damage: 4.8 billion
Federal funding: 0.0061 billion
State funding: 1.393 billion
Needed over time: 3.4009 billion

I have a headache.
 
So what does this mean then? --



^^Last line in your link.

Something doesn't add up.

I'm unclear on the nature of your concern.

The state sustained an estimated $4.8 billion in damages when the hurricane ravaged the area last October, according to the governor’s office.

I don't know exactly what the article means, but i think it's appropriate to give an explanation when the provided funding is much less than the requested funding.
 
The country is going broke at what point are you going to quit advocating for more spending?? Caring?? You won't believe the level of suffering that will occur if both parties don't cut spending and get the country solvent. At the current path I can promise you some very bad things will eventually happen.... Venezuela???

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The stupidity of your argument is considerable. Venezuela was +90% economically dependent on oil, and the price of oil plummeted which was the source of their issues. You appear overwhelmingly ignorant when you conflate a developed and diversified economy with an undeveloped and consolidated natural resource based economy.

In any case, do you have a concept of how much money was spent on the Iraq war? Do you claim that the hardships resultant from those expenditures are as considerable as your hyperbole suggests?
 
Well, it is rather easy to make it look like things don't add up if one cuts out the relevant facts - a particularly slimey move when "one" is complaining about the cutting out of relevant facts.

Also from the article: North Carolina asked for $929 million from the government in its effort to recover from the disaster last year. The Trump administration has agreed to give it only $6.1 million — less than 1% of what the state said it needed.


Also from the article:
"The state sustained an estimated $4.8 billion in damages when the hurricane ravaged the area last October, according to the governor’s office. Hurricane Matthew killed nearly 30 people in North Carolina, and damaged more than 100,000 homes and buildings."


And what led to your quote, cherry-picked in haste? This did:



Cooper wrote that he and state legislators collaborated to come up with a “conservative” funding request. North Carolina needs most of the federal funds for housing and public buildings — “our state’s most critical and immediate needs,” as the governor put it. The money the Trump administration has offered is not enough to cover even one of the state’s multiple recovery requests. North Carolina asked for a combined $600.6 million for housing repairs and elevation, as well as $39 million for small businesses, $37 million for health services, $43 million for public facilities and $92.6 million for agriculture recovery. The White House offered no public explanation for denying the funds to North Carolina, a swing state Trump won in the presidential election. So far, North Carolina has secured $1.4 billion in state and federal funds for Hurricane Matthew recovery.






Must we do math?

Damage: 4.8 billion
Requested from feds: 0.600 billion
Also requested: 0.929 billion
Received from feds: 0.0061 billion
{edit: I see someone has claimed they got 600 mil already, then disclaimed it. Either way, point stands}.

So now comes that sentence, "So far, North Carolina has secured $1.4 billion in state and federal funds for Hurricane Matthew recovery."

State AND federal it says. Well, the federal appears to be 0.0061 billion, so that means that everything between 0.0061 and 1.4 billion are STATE FUNDS, not federal funds. (Unless someone can demonstrate the article itself is factually wrong. I don't trust NY daily news).


Meaning.....in turn.....

Damage: 4.8 billion
Federal funding: 0.0061 billion
State funding: 1.393 billion
Needed over time: 3.4009 billion

I have a headache.



I'm sorry to hear that.

Would you have preferred it if you did not receive a response answering your question? Or did you just want to say something snotty at someone who dared to criticize Trump without taking any personal responsibility?
 
"The Trump administration has agreed to give it only $6.1 million — less than 1% of what the state said it needed."


Hurricane Matthew came under Obama. Oct. 2016. To the extent they have funding over that 0.0061 billion, it came from Obama. (You have already disclaimed your prior post)> But of course, we need to credit that to Trump.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Matthew#United_States_2
Trump administration rejects 99% of Hurricane Matthew N.C. funds - NY Daily News





If the federal government isn't going to give relief to the states, why in the precise **** are we the United States of America? What's the point of being allegedly "united"? We're going to sneer at disaster relief now and say "they got enough"? If we're that tribal, we shouldn't have the country we - ok some of us - pretend to "love."

(Don't worry. I know nobody defending Trump thought that far. It was the usual. He say Trump bad ---> I say Trump good and HE bad!)

See, the problem you have is that your mind can not fathom someone who is not a partisan, so you dont see me at all.

The next problem is that regardless you are sure that you do.

The next problem is that you are none too nice.

The next problem is....
 
Wow, President Trump shows us how much he cares about the people who voted for him:

Trump administration rejects 99% of Hurricane Matthew N.C. funds - NY Daily News

I wonder how much Americans will have to suffer before conservatives acknowledge the error of turning a blind eye to the suffering of others.

NC Sen. Burr won't be happy. He's the chair of the Senate Intelligence committee.

Burr, McCain and Corker are already questioning the trump/Bannon idiocy.

Let's see how Rosenstein does in front of all 100 senators next week, unless he quits .
 
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NC is deep in an old money vs. new population/money power struggle. The old money people are Repubs, of course. Dumb move for the Trump Admin.

If McCrory hadn't lost for governor, NC wouldn't be getting punished .
 
I'm sorry to hear that.

Would you have preferred it if you did not receive a response answering your question? Or did you just want to say something snotty at someone who dared to criticize Trump without taking any personal responsibility?

I'm betting you could clear up my misunderstanding in a few sentences... if you understood nature of my confusion and actually KNEW the answer. I'll look it up myself.
 
So what does this mean then? --



^^Last line in your link.

Something doesn't add up.

The money requested was in addition to the money they already received. Perhaps this article will help things add up for you.

From:

Cooper had hoped for more than $900 million in federal relief, an amount he said was a conservative request made in consultation with U.S. Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C., U.S. Reps. David Price, a Democrat from Chapel Hill and David Rouzer, a Republican from Johnston County, and others in the state’s congressional delegation. Just $6.1 million in federal money was approved.

The funding request was in addition to $1.4 billion in federal and state money the state has already received, Cooper said. The storm caused an estimated $4.8 billion in damage, Cooper has said.

Read more:

Cooper: Trump administration denied 99 percent of amount recently sought by N.C. for Hurricane Matthew help | Government | greensboro.com
 
What is it you liberals always say: elections have consequences?

trump is hurting a state he won, North Carolina, which has 10 GOP congressmen up next year compared to only 3 for DEMs.

Btw, hurricane relief is not a liberal/conservative issue, and the GOP still owns both chambers in NC, for now .
 
Wow, President Trump shows us how much he cares about the people who voted for him:



Trump administration rejects 99% of Hurricane Matthew N.C. funds - NY Daily News

I wonder how much Americans will have to suffer before conservatives acknowledge the error of turning a blind eye to the suffering of others.

Why do you keep conflating Trump the person with an organization he is running?

You say the administration rejects... but above that you say something about how Trump personally "shows us how much he cares about the people who voted for him".

You can't all of sudden say that the President is responsible for every little thing the administration does when that was not the case for the last 8 years.
 
Why do you keep conflating Trump the person with an organization he is running?

You say the administration rejects... but above that you say something about how Trump personally "shows us how much he cares about the people who voted for him".

You can't all of sudden say that the President is responsible for every little thing the administration does when that was not the case for the last 8 years.

Your argument is that President Trump is so drunk at the wheel that he can't be blamed for the collateral damage of his oblivious and misguided leadership?

Fascinating argument.
 
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