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There for you until a bigger campaign donor tells them not to be there for you. Right?


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Generally, yes.
But the immigration process that specifically admitted Cuban refugees doesn't specifically admit open border immigration.

As a Cuban immigrant myself I can tell you that the emigration from Cuba was caused by a communist dictator who siezed the country, nationalized private property and killed any who stood in the way. The U.S. got some good citizens from the Cuban emigration - doctors, lawyers, businessmen, scientists and so forth. The same thing happened from the emigration of eastern Europeans in the 1950's. Both groups have assimilated into and contributed meaningfully to American life.

Sadly, that is not the case with Mexican and Central American illegal aliens. I have friends from Mexico and Central America that fit the same situation as the Cubans but every one of them immigrated legally to the U.S. just like the Cubans, Poles, Hungarians, Czechs etc.
 
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Generally, yes.
But the immigration process that specifically admitted Cuban refugees doesn't specifically admit open border immigration.

But I have serious doubts whether all of the millions of legal/illegal immigrants a year from everywhere around the globe are anxious to assimilate.
"Diversity" is a euphemism to say we shouldn't expect assimilation

Certain States are passing laws designed to accommodate their muslim communities that feel bound by Sharia Law.
Does the US Constitution require States or the Federal Government to indulge such religion specific practices?
I'm surprised we haven't heard more that as a Freedom Of Religion issue.
You can bet it's coming and may be hard to argue against given the current Judicial climate in much of the Country.
I provided for that. If you dont want to be here and part of this country, you can register as a guest worker.

I never have understood the value of bringing in refugees...especially those that dont want to be here.
 
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As a Cuban immigrant myself I can tell you that the emigration from Cuba was caused by a communist dictator who siezed the country, nationalized private property and killed any who stood in the way. The U.S. got some good citizens from the Cuban emigration - doctors, lawyers, businessmen, scientists and so forth. The same thing happened from the emigration of eastern Europeans in the 1950's. Both groups have assimilated into and contributed meaningfully to American life.

Sadly, that is not the case with Mexican and Central American illegal aliens. I have friends from Mexico and Central America that fit the same situation as the Cubans but every one of them immigrated legally to the U.S. just like the Cubans, Poles, Hungarians, Czechs etc.

Right. I think that's generally accepted as true.
 
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I provided for that. If you dont want to be here and part of this country, you can register as a guest worker.

I never have understood the value of bringing in refugees...especially those that dont want to be here.

I think it's more insidious than whether they want to be here.
I think we have to look at the motivations of those who want to bring in immigrants who they know don't want to assimilate.
 
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Illegal aliens have constitutional rights and you can't just deport them willy nilly. I think Perez was referring to this. But, generally, I agree that Democrats need to stfu about identity politics and transform their message into a worker's rights message vehicled by economic populism.

But, yeah, all the conservative who are in love with the Constitution should read the 14th amendment more closely next time.
 
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He does for me. He is an ignorant yelling loud mouth without a scintilla of common sense. The two women at least had an idea of what they were doing and why. And they didn't scream at the top of their lungs.

One is no better than the other. All three are contemptible, shameful and apt representatives of the democrat party.
 
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Illegal aliens have constitutional rights and you can't just deport them willy nilly. I think Perez was referring to this. But, generally, I agree that Democrats need to stfu about identity politics and transform their message into a worker's rights message vehicled by economic populism.

But, yeah, all the conservative who are in love with the Constitution should read the 14th amendment more closely next time.

The true economic populists are conservatives who want to deport people who are here illegally and to prevent more illegal aliens from reaching here
 
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Im sure you are right but the problem with their logic is the assumption that every illegal immigrant is going to become just another worthless crippled dependent pet and rat voter when the reality is that most of them are religious, family oriented, and hard working. the Cuban American immigrants were almost exclusively republican because of their work incentive. We know that about 36% of all new businesses are immigrant owned and thats a whole lot of yard care services and taco stands amongst other things where immigrants come here and bust their ass to succeed. Instead its just a tug of war over nothing.

There is no reason to fear immigrants from ANY country...provided that we follow immigration law that makes sense and enhances our country. People that come here should want to be here and contribute to the country and make things better. I think most...MOST immigrants know the ****holes they ran from and dont want to see this place become them and they know that supporting mindless socialist rat policies will do just that. But instead of capitalizing on the strength and character of those that come here to make a living for themselves and their families they demonize them or use them. Both major parties are filled with dumbasses.

Ah, Vance with the partisan hackery again. Obviously, you only have "work incentive" if you vote Republican, amirite?

Oh, and about Cubans, think again...After decades of GOP support, Cubans shifting toward the Democratic Party | Pew Research Center

Perhaps if your precious GOP weren't infested with clowns like Palin and Trump you would be getting more of that immigrant vote. I mean, there's a reason why Cubans AND Asian Americans have been abandoning the GOP in droves...and it isn't because of the drivel you are spewing. It's because the GOP absolutely sucks.
 
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Ah, Vance with the partisan hackery again. Obviously, you only have "work incentive" if you vote Republican, amirite?

Oh, and about Cubans, think again...After decades of GOP support, Cubans shifting toward the Democratic Party | Pew Research Center

Perhaps if your precious GOP weren't infested with clowns like Palin and Trump you would be getting more of that immigrant vote. I mean, there's a reason why Cubans AND Asian Americans have been abandoning the GOP in droves...and it isn't because of the drivel you are spewing. It's because the GOP absolutely sucks.
I usually vote Libertarian...so no. However you arent stupid enough to honestly make the claim that between the two parties, one has a mass appeal to those that are hard working family, and religious oriented while the other invests virtually all of its political capital pandering to the poor, the oppressed, the crippled dependent pets of society.

I am a card carrying Libertarian. Switched parties in 2003. Why? Because I agree...the GOP sucks. There really isnt a dimes difference between the two when it comes to the damage they do together to the country. The irony here is YOu are ****ting yourself over comments I made that are ABSOLUTELY OBVIOUS when it comes to the 2 parties and YOU **** yourself over the GOP...but are a proud happy voter of the RAT party. You go ahead and revel in that.
 
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Hmm.... on a 'Credibility Scale', how would you rate the following: DNC Chair Tom Perez, RWN Publication The Daily Caller, and the OP?

My ratings:

1. Tom Perez 2. The Daily Caller 3. OP

OP Rating -

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Media Bias Rating -

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-caller/

Tom Perez rating -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Perez


Speaking of ratings, your logical fallacy meter is off the charts with that post.
 
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Speaking of ratings, your logical fallacy meter is off the charts with that post.

Ah, yes... the first joke of the morning!

After removing cobwebs and waiting while coffee brews, I have a faint recollection of our last interaction almost a month ago on another partisan garbage thread -

Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
No problem. Just know that you are useless in any debate if we follow your own rules since we shouldn't consider anything you say or the sources you provide because you are progressive.


Trippy responded - We have both made our posts. Others can read them and decide for themselves. A couple of the others in this thread remind me of idiot teenagers. They might change and grow. Small chance of you ever leaving your bubble of delusion. You remind me of a Bela Lugosi wannabe. Your fangs don't work... and your brain lacks blood flow Maybe you would benefit from hanging upside down

Why would you think our opinion of each other has changed? Wink wink... and a Big Morning Smile to ya!
 
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The simple fact is that people that come into this country illegally are illegal aliens. People that rob banks are bank robbers. People that shoplift are shoplifters.

For the life of me...I dont know why they wont fix this problem. It is SUCH AN EASY problem to fix. It is inane to consider rounding up 20-30 million illegal immigrants. The solution is simple. Step 1-Border security. Immediately. Step 2-require every single illegal immigrant to self identify and register as an immigrant or as a guest worker. Give them a year to do it. If they dont register as one or the other after a year they are deported no questions asked. If they do...happy days. Follow the rules from this point forward. In 7 years you can become a US citizen. If you are a guest worker...follow the rules and you can come and go as you please as a citizen of your home country. Step 3-Ensure e-verify is working, viable and being used. If an employer hires an illegal immigrant knowingly (e-verify wasnt used or ignored) fine the hell out of them per infraction. After three, the company owner spends 5 years in a federal pen. All of that can be done immediately.

This is exactly the kind of solution we seriously need to happen. Giving everyone amnesty or fighting it and building a wall we can't afford will not fix it. Your proposal just makes too much sense for everyone to get behind. For some reason, logic never seems to win.
 
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Ah, yes... the first joke of the morning!

After removing cobwebs and waiting while coffee brews, I have a faint recollection of our last interaction almost a month ago on another partisan garbage thread -

Why would you think our opinion of each other has changed? Wink wink... and a Big Morning Smile to ya!


My choice to respond to you has nothing to do with your opinion of me. It has everything to do with my opinion of your posts.
 
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The simple fact is that people that come into this country illegally are illegal aliens. People that rob banks are bank robbers. People that shoplift are shoplifters.

For the life of me...I dont know why they wont fix this problem.

It is SUCH AN EASY problem to fix.

It is inane to consider rounding up 20-30 million illegal immigrants. The solution is simple. Step 1-Border security. Immediately. Step 2-require every single illegal immigrant to self identify and register as an immigrant or as a guest worker. Give them a year to do it. If they dont register as one or the other after a year they are deported no questions asked. If they do...happy days. Follow the rules from this point forward. In 7 years you can become a US citizen. If you are a guest worker...follow the rules and you can come and go as you please as a citizen of your home country. Step 3-Ensure e-verify is working, viable and being used. If an employer hires an illegal immigrant knowingly (e-verify wasnt used or ignored) fine the hell out of them per infraction. After three, the company owner spends 5 years in a federal pen. All of that can be done immediately.

It is not an easy problem to fix because half the country refuses to accept Step 1

They do not want to close the border

And until we do we never get to the merits or demerits of your other ideas.
 
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Trying to get committed leftists to speak the obvious is an exercise in futility.



When you miss Eric Holder, that's telling!
 
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This is exactly the kind of solution we seriously need to happen. Giving everyone amnesty or fighting it and building a wall we can't afford will not fix it. Your proposal just makes too much sense for everyone to get behind. For some reason, logic never seems to win.

Building the wall is affordable when you consider the cost of illegal aliens mining our safety system and taking jobs from American citizens..............especially blacks.
 
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So the DNC stands with criminals, good to know I guess.

What a stupid comment he made "No human being is illegal!" You're right, no **** dumb ass, but humans can behave illegally... which is the problem.[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR]

Obviously someone here missed the point. Calling people "illegal" is as insulting as calling a transgender person a "freak." Get it now?
 
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Building the wall is affordable when you consider the cost of illegal aliens mining our safety system and taking jobs from American citizens..............especially blacks.

I don't think we would need the wall if we started enforcing the law and makes some changes moving forward. If someone knows they cannot get any kind of welfare, no job without papers, and their kid will not be an American citizen just for being born here, what motivation do they have to come here? I know a lot of people here illegally and those three are the top reasons they are here. Everyone wants the things we take for granted here and if we don't remove the incentives, no wall will stop them.
 
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My choice to respond to you has nothing to do with your opinion of me. It has everything to do with my opinion of your posts.

My opinion of you has pretty much exclusively derived from reading posts attributed to you. Maybe only once did I perceive you to have agreed with an opinion I posted. Your consistent display of entrenched tripe has not gone unnoticed. Enjoy your Free Speech. No one can make you post intelligently. You can't get blood from a turnip.
 
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Building the wall is affordable when you consider the cost of illegal aliens mining our safety system and taking jobs from American citizens..............especially blacks.

Fascinating. What data supports that conclusion?
 
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My opinion of you has pretty much exclusively derived from reading posts attributed to you. Maybe only once did I perceive you to have agreed with an opinion I posted. Your consistent display of entrenched tripe has not gone unnoticed. Enjoy your Free Speech. No one can make you post intelligently. You can't get blood from a turnip.

This is a debate forum. I tend to only post when I disagree with a person's point or their method of making a point or I think I can contribute to a point they are making. That you feel so put upon by my choice to respond to your post consisting of nothing but logical fallacy is your hangup. I will continue to point your weak arguments when you make them.

Also, the best Star Trek episode ever was either The Doomsday Device or Balance of Terror.
 
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Fascinating. What data supports that conclusion?

If we provided you with data to prove illegal aliens are a drain on society you would merely ignore it or dispute it.

You are not looking for answers but merely to argue a point.

Buit I say the debate with liberals like you is over and its time to start building the wall
 
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If we provided you with data to prove illegal aliens are a drain on society you would merely ignore it or dispute it.

You are not looking for answers but merely to argue a point.

Buit I say the debate with liberals like you is over and its time to start building the wall

LOL! So you admit there is no credible data and you're now simply mumbling excuses.

I asked for data. You ran.

Same old, same old.
 
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Obviously someone here missed the point. Calling people "illegal" is as insulting as calling a transgender person a "freak." Get it now?

No. I can't help that I am transgendered. They can choose NOT to break our laws. The term "illegal alien/immigrant" is about their concious decisions, not who they are.

It's only offensive to weak minded people.
 
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