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USS Michigan nuclear submarine docks in Busan port, South Korea

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The USS Michigan - a guided-missile submarine - arrived in South Korea for what a US defense official described as a show of force amid tensions between the US and North Korea.

 
One more thing to ratchet up the paranoia of a despot?
 
So....a submarine, which is a stealth weapon, by its very nature....is having its presence in an area ANOUNCED? Which, I guess, removes stealth from the equation.....



May as well have sent a flotilla of destroyers on over.
 
I'm not sure waving our dicks at NK is going to accomplish anything, but whatever. As long as Kim Jong Un is less insane than good 'ole Il Sung, he probably won't be stupid enough to actually take the first shot. But who knows...
 
I got a really nice deal on a mink blanket in Busan when we were there.
 
i expected at least one of these four SSGN's to show up there soon. The more Tomahawks arrive on the scene, the more credible the threat to North Korea's air defenses becomes. What makes the Michigan even more threatening in that regard is that North Korea cannot track it. That means it could suddenly launch the 154 Tomahawks it is capable of carrying from a point fairly close to shore, giving the targets very little time to react. It will be interesting to see if any B-2's are flown from Missouri to bases closer to Korea, because that bomber would also be certain to play an important part in any attack on North Korea's air defenses. F-22's which are close to North Korea also would play a role in any such attack.

The exact numbers have not been made public, but a sudden air attack to destroy North Korea's nuclear and missile facilities and to reduce its air defenses could easily include as many as 60-80 targets and 800-1,000 guided weapons. The Vinson strike group includes just one cruiser and two destroyers, and its deployment has already been extended. That makes it reasonable to expect that the Nimitz and Reagan groups will sail to Korea to replace it, and that they will include more cruisers, destroyers, and attack submarines than usual.

Two carrier strike groups, assuming they contained a total of two or three cruisers, seven or eight destroyers, and two or three attack submarines could easily, when combined with Michigan, place more than 500 Tomahawks within range of any target in North Korea while still maintaining a very strong defense for the fleet against aircraft, ships, or subs. B-2's, F-22's, and possibly missiles launched at long distance from other aircraft could make up the remaining several hundred guided weapons required for this sort of "decapitation" attack. Even if Kim Jong Un himself does not understand how severely a sudden attack like that would limit North Korea's ability to defend its military forces, let alone use them offensively, surely his generals understand it very well.
 
The Michigan is likely attached to Carrier Strike Group 1 which includes the carrier USS Carl Vinson, and the USS Lake Champlain, USS Wayne E. Meyer, and USS Michael Murphy plus the Japanese destroyers JDS Ashigara and the JS Samidare.
 
i expected at least one of these four SSGN's to show up there soon. The more Tomahawks arrive on the scene, the more credible the threat to North Korea's air defenses becomes. What makes the Michigan even more threatening in that regard is that North Korea cannot track it. That means it could suddenly launch the 154 Tomahawks it is capable of carrying from a point fairly close to shore, giving the targets very little time to react. It will be interesting to see if any B-2's are flown from Missouri to bases closer to Korea, because that bomber would also be certain to play an important part in any attack on North Korea's air defenses. F-22's which are close to North Korea also would play a role in any such attack.

The exact numbers have not been made public, but a sudden air attack to destroy North Korea's nuclear and missile facilities and to reduce its air defenses could easily include as many as 60-80 targets and 800-1,000 guided weapons. The Vinson strike group includes just one cruiser and two destroyers, and its deployment has already been extended. That makes it reasonable to expect that the Nimitz and Reagan groups will sail to Korea to replace it, and that they will include more cruisers, destroyers, and attack submarines than usual.

Two carrier strike groups, assuming they contained a total of two or three cruisers, seven or eight destroyers, and two or three attack submarines could easily, when combined with Michigan, place more than 500 Tomahawks within range of any target in North Korea while still maintaining a very strong defense for the fleet against aircraft, ships, or subs. B-2's, F-22's, and possibly missiles launched at long distance from other aircraft could make up the remaining several hundred guided weapons required for this sort of "decapitation" attack. Even if Kim Jong Un himself does not understand how severely a sudden attack like that would limit North Korea's ability to defend its military forces, let alone use them offensively, surely his generals understand it very well.

The problem is that Donald is too inept to understand that playing with fire can get people burned. This is the guy who's sitting in the White House and repeatedly making the claim that "who knew that __ could be so complicated?" Many experts did, and oh yeah, this woman named Hillary Clinton. Remember her?

Right now we've got thousands of US troops stationed in Korea and Japan, and KJU's weapons could hit both. And oh yeah, before we could annihilate NK, they could do the same to Seoul. I wonder if Donald is willing to run the outside risk of letting Seoul become the next Aleppo.
 
The problem is that Donald is too inept to understand that playing with fire can get people burned. This is the guy who's sitting in the White House and repeatedly making the claim that "who knew that __ could be so complicated?" Many experts did, and oh yeah, this woman named Hillary Clinton. Remember her?

Right now we've got thousands of US troops stationed in Korea and Japan, and KJU's weapons could hit both. And oh yeah, before we could annihilate NK, they could do the same to Seoul. I wonder if Donald is willing to run the outside risk of letting Seoul become the next Aleppo.

The Donald is a narcissistic lying sociopath. He doesn't care. As long as he could claim ultimate victory that is all he would care about.

Let's hope to God he really is leaving major decisions and strategy on this with the people on his cabinet and the Pentagon.
 
The problem is that Donald is too inept to understand that playing with fire can get people burned. This is the guy who's sitting in the White House and repeatedly making the claim that "who knew that __ could be so complicated?" Many experts did, and oh yeah, this woman named Hillary Clinton. Remember her?

Right now we've got thousands of US troops stationed in Korea and Japan, and KJU's weapons could hit both. And oh yeah, before we could annihilate NK, they could do the same to Seoul. I wonder if Donald is willing to run the outside risk of letting Seoul become the next Aleppo.


Don Cheeto does't give a rat's ass about anyone just as long as he has 'Donnie's Little Empire' intact & living his 'good' life; he would gladly sacrifice any living soul just to say, "I am the mighty Trump that took down the crazy North Korean bastard" ........ and then Trump's base cheers at another Trump pep rally, "Make America Hate Again" ............... yeah .......
 
Don Cheeto does't give a rat's ass about anyone just as long as he has 'Donnie's Little Empire' intact & living his 'good' life; he would gladly sacrifice any living soul just to say, "I am the mighty Trump that took down the crazy North Korean bastard" ........ and then Trump's base cheers at another Trump pep rally, "Make America Hate Again" ............... yeah .......

NK could wipe Seoul off the map with a tactical nuke, we could MOAB Pyongyang, and Donald would call it a win. Meanwhile, Japan and perhaps other nations would seriously reconsider their relationship with us.
 
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