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    Re: Poll: Majority of Americans disapprove of President Trump, a near historic low

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    Re: Poll: Majority of Americans disapprove of President Trump, a near historic low

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    OP HIGHLIGHT: Only 55 percent approved of his job performance at that point.

    et al,

    This is about pointing fingers like children who did not get their way.

    Congress, both the brain dead in the House and in the Senate "need" to get about doing the nations business. But, they have been screwing around for so long that it is now more traditional to screw around and gather a war chest and the have totally forgotten how to be a leader in the nation of the nation and for the nation.

    How can anyone in the mainstream of the media, the political parties, or academia be satisfied with the back biting and back stabbing that has become so famous in Washington?

    Without regard to what the political pundits and party apologist say, we need to come together in common cause to rebuild America and make it the center of the universe.

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    Re: Poll: Majority of Americans disapprove of President Trump, a near historic low

    Quote Originally Posted by lurchadams View Post
    I don't understand your post. The article says Trump's disapproval rating is at an all time high for this point in a presidency. Are you saying his disapproval rating should be higher?
    No, i don't believe the rating.
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    Re: Poll: Majority of Americans disapprove of President Trump, a near historic low

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    Thread: Poll: Majority of Americans disapprove of President Trump, a near historic low
    OP HIGHLIGHT: Only 55 percent approved of his job performance at that point.

    et al,

    This is about pointing fingers like children who did not get their way.

    Congress, both the brain dead in the House and in the Senate "need" to get about doing the nations business. But, they have been screwing around for so long that it is now more traditional to screw around and gather a war chest and the have totally forgotten how to be a leader in the nation of the nation and for the nation.

    How can anyone in the mainstream of the media, the political parties, or academia be satisfied with the back biting and back stabbing that has become so famous in Washington?

    Without regard to what the political pundits and party apologist say, we need to come together in common cause to rebuild America and make it the center of the universe.

    Most Respectfully,
    R
    I agree, but when is Trump going to start being a president?

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    Re: Poll: Majority of Americans disapprove of President Trump, a near historic low

    Re: Poll: Majority of Americans disapprove of President Trump, a near historic low
    Media_Truth, et al,
    “Of all the hazy and confounding

    areas in social psychology, leadership theory undoubtedly contends for

    top nomination. . ." Warren Bennis ((1959). Leadership theory and administrative behavior. Administrative Science Quarterly, 4, pp. 259–260)


    Warren Bennis is more know for his academic organization and outline of leadership traits and qualities, than for his personal leadership exhibited on his own. His observations are not unique. Any number of leadership guru's the very same observations. There is no formula for leadership. Some people have said that you either have it, or you do not. (We don't know if that is true.) Certainly there is quite a bit of difference between military leadership, business leadership, and political leadership.

    Quote Originally Posted by Media_Truth View Post
    I agree, but when is Trump going to start being a president?
    (COMMENT)

    Back in the late 1990's, there was an organization known as the Project for the New American Century (PNAC). The PNAC has been described many different ways. But the elite within the PNAC seemed to emerge as powerful militaristic influences in White House Policies. This is a kind-of crafted leadership --- which was induced by positions of authority. Not necessarily furthered by personal charisma.

    No matter what The President might try to do, the built-in constraints will not allow The President to do any more damage in America that any other has done over the last quarter century.

    When we ask the question about --- "start being a president" --- what particular President would we like President Trump to emulate? Maybe President Trump will not be remembered as an exceptional leader --- but then --- who is? Let's let him be his own man, and not assail him for his management style. The President may never actually act like a "President" in some eyes. Be that as it may, it is not necessarily a bad thing. I'm quite sure that we do not want a return of a Presidency manipulated by the like of the PNAC.

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    Re: Poll: Majority of Americans disapprove of President Trump, a near historic low

    Quote Originally Posted by RoccoR View Post
    Re: Poll: Majority of Americans disapprove of President Trump, a near historic low
    Media_Truth, et al,
    “Of all the hazy and confounding

    areas in social psychology, leadership theory undoubtedly contends for

    top nomination. . ." Warren Bennis ((1959). Leadership theory and administrative behavior. Administrative Science Quarterly, 4, pp. 259–260)


    Warren Bennis is more know for his academic organization and outline of leadership traits and qualities, than for his personal leadership exhibited on his own. His observations are not unique. Any number of leadership guru's the very same observations. There is no formula for leadership. Some people have said that you either have it, or you do not. (We don't know if that is true.) Certainly there is quite a bit of difference between military leadership, business leadership, and political leadership.


    (COMMENT)

    Back in the late 1990's, there was an organization known as the Project for the New American Century (PNAC). The PNAC has been described many different ways. But the elite within the PNAC seemed to emerge as powerful militaristic influences in White House Policies. This is a kind-of crafted leadership --- which was induced by positions of authority. Not necessarily furthered by personal charisma.

    No matter what The President might try to do, the built-in constraints will not allow The President to do any more damage in America that any other has done over the last quarter century.

    When we ask the question about --- "start being a president" --- what particular President would we like President Trump to emulate? Maybe President Trump will not be remembered as an exceptional leader --- but then --- who is? Let's let him be his own man, and not assail him for his management style. The President may never actually act like a "President" in some eyes. Be that as it may, it is not necessarily a bad thing. I'm quite sure that we do not want a return of a Presidency manipulated by the like of the PNAC.

    Most Respectfully,
    R
    I agree wholeheartedly with your statement about the PNAC. At the heart of the PNAC political philosophy is global military domination. Although they claim it's about defense, it was more about self-justification and pretense to go to war. The Iraq War was the culmination of their efforts.

    As for Trump, I don't think we yet know what type of world Military intervention he will promote. He certainly seems to be focusing heavy on North Korea, and a possible unconstitutional military strike there. Or is he using North Korea as a diversion against his Russian ties, and the probably incriminating evidence on his tax returns?

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    Re: Poll: Majority of Americans disapprove of President Trump, a near historic low

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    → Media_Truth, et al,

    Yes, I do not think that President Trump will hurt America any more than the mainstream political parties have in the last decade. In fact, --- one could say that the lack of solid work performance and progress by the Members of Congress was a major cause for the defeat of both major parties. For whatever else President Trump may be, he is not a phony patriotic politician (working on day one towards re-election), and President Trump is not professional politician (where all they have ever done work the political side of being an American). Populist and Centralist of America are growing in numbers with the idea emerging that they are somehow not being served by the products offered by the Republicans and Democrats.

    Quote Originally Posted by Media_Truth View Post
    ... ... ...
    As for Trump, I don't think we yet know what type of world Military intervention he will promote. He certainly seems to be focusing heavy on North Korea, and a possible unconstitutional military strike there. Or is he using North Korea as a diversion against his Russian ties, and the probably incriminating evidence on his tax returns?
    (COMMENT)

    It is that very rare person that understand what Kim Jung-un is really doing. To some degree, some of his objectives are obvious: To demonstrate that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) is:

    • A political and military power to be force to be reckoned with...

    • They can cause the US to react. The US cannot set the conditions for peace with the DPRK.

    Through the last three White House Administrations, the US has tried to craft a more viable arrangement that would bring greater security stabilization to the Region. However, not since the Korea Armistice has America been successful in creating a enduring solution. People's Republic of China (PRK) is the political, military and diplomatic power in the region that can interact and influence the DPRK. All America can do at the moment is exercise (what the career diplomat calls) a policy of "strategic patience" (jargon meaning nothing of any relevance). Thus, the PRK is the greater "World Power" of influence in the region, and growing ↑ sphere that reach from The Sea of Japan --- to --- the South China Sea and the Dash 9 Line. The success or failure in diplomacy with the:
    • DPRK is no diversion.

    • The threat posed by the DPRK affects the Russian Federation, South Korea, Japan, The Philippines, Brunei, Malaysia, and Vietnam.

    • The effects of assertive Chinese policies and projection of influence, will not result in regional instability;

    • but will become a greater influence than America and eventually supplant US political, military and diplomatic power in the region.

    The Russian ties issue is actually laughable. The media has effected more change and political turbulence into the 2016 Elections, than did the disclosure of any "legal" communications exchanged between Russia and the Trump campaign. While the story writers make accusations, they never actually cite any particular law that was violation and supports the allegations. There is no law that says that you, me, your family or your entire street that prohibits contacting foreign governments (Canada, Mexico, Britain, Germany --- or --- Russia) and discussing any topic that is not classified. While the allegation is made, I have yet to see any "Probable Cause" ⇔ based on facts, that would lead a reasonable person to believe that the claim or charge is true.
    • What is the charge (and statute violated) and what facts do you have that substantiates the allegation?

    As for the tax records, this is very much like the people that made allegations about former President Barrack Obama. See false accusations that can be used to discredit people.

    Most Respectfully,
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    Re: Poll: Majority of Americans disapprove of President Trump, a near [W:251, 291]

    Quote Originally Posted by lurchadams View Post
    "Tremendous".

    https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...rump/22042115/

    Trump wanted to set a record. Since his inauguration attendance claim was a lie, maybe this'll cheer him up
    Porn for Demokrats... letting them do that doo-whacka-doo they do so well.

    Hate to throw some cold water on your celebration, but the anti-Trump media hasn;t much credibility considering their laughable polling in 2016.

    Mark Penn, former Clinton pollster says the press isn't to believed. Their polls dishonest... and they haven't learned anything.

    Former Clinton Pollster Mark Penn: Polls Still Wrong About Trump - Breitbart

    Continue as you Leftists were... doo-whacka-doo... doo-whacka-doo... doo-whacka-doo... doo-whacka-doo... doo-whacka-doo... doo-whacka-doo... doo-whacka-doo... doo-whacka-doo... doo-whacka-doo... doo-whacka-doo... doo-whacka-doo... doo-whacka-doo... doo-whacka-doo... doo-whacka-doo... doo-whacka-doo... doo-whacka-doo... doo-whacka-doo... doo-whacka-doo... doo-whacka-doo... doo-whacka-doo... doo-whacka-doo... doo-whacka-doo... doo-whacka-doo... doo-whacka-doo... doo-whacka-doo... doo-whacka-doo... doo-whacka-doo... doo-whacka-doo... doo-whacka-doo... ...

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    Re: Poll: Majority of Americans disapprove of President Trump, a near [W:251, 291]

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    Mac77, SailaWay, et al,

    I have to apologize. Several weeks ago, I criticized the contributors for (in my opinion) over-zealously pursuing the White House - Russian connection. It sounds like that a grand jury and RICO investigation into Donald Trump (and associates) has been opened. And the other indication is that a separate Grand Jury opened on the potential violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA). These are criminal investigations.

    But it also (coming to light since then) of concern that Sally Yates, the fired former Attorney General, testified about entwining National Security Advisor (MG Flynn White House and Russia) in relation to the compromising situation.

    There is now cause to suggest that a series of events warrant further investigation.

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    Re: Poll: Majority of Americans disapprove of President Trump, a near historic low

    i dont want him to fail .....i dont want him to turn this country into a russian block ruled by putin if you cant see it ...you dont want to see it there is nothiong i can say or do to make you change your mind.. trump is depending on people like you..im going to say one thing....when people try to shut down the epa.. these people dont care about anyone else....period all about the money...
    I find the lack of logic in humans most disturbing...

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