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Bannon's Influence Over Trump Might Be Fading

rocket88 said:
Reports Suggest President Trump Might Replace Stephen Bannon (VIDEO)

President Trump is considering replacing chief of staff Reince Priebus and chief strategist Stephen Bannon, according to several reports.

Bannon could be on the outs. Apparently he's been clashing with Jared Kushner, and threatened to resign after being ousted from the Security Council. Steve Bannon 'threatened to resign' after being ousted from National Security Council
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It sure does seem that way about Bannon, but I don't think there is any trouble with Priebus who thus far IMO appears to be doing a good job.

I think Kushner will push Bannon out - and that's a very good thing.
 
coldjoint said:
Yeah, their last name isn't Kennedy. The nerve.
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When Robert Kennedy came into appointed office, there was nothing illegal about it. Nor was he "skirting" the law. Nonetheless, a law was soon afterwards passed to prohibit such appointments. Trump is giving more appointments to his family as "advisers", no official position, and thus skirting the law made because of the Kennedy deal. Bannon is being edged out because he is not in the Trump family. Now, more and more, the responsibility is with Trump as Kushner has more power than the Sect'y of State in the ME, to say the least. Still, Trump will never take that responsibility. Remember, while taking responsibility for the future affairs in Syria, he was blaming Obama for not doing what he himself did not want him to do. As late, at least, as December 2015, Trump did not want Assad ousted. Explain that one to me.
 
Fiddytree said:
And thank God for that. The problem is his damn family is taking over.

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Bannon is an idealogue, the Kusners not so much, and thats a good thing.
 
tres borrachos said:
It sure does seem that way about Bannon, but I don't think there is any trouble with Priebus who thus far IMO appears to be doing a good job.

I think Kushner will push Bannon out - and that's a very good thing.
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I'm starting to wonder if it really is such a good thing. Since Bannon has been pushed aside we have seen a missile attack on Syria and increased tension between the US and Russia, Iran, North Korea. Looks like he may have been the only one holding back the neocons from cranking up the military industrial complex.
 
Nap said:
I'm starting to wonder if it really is such a good thing. Since Bannon has been pushed aside we have seen a missile attack on Syria and increased tension between the US and Russia, Iran, North Korea. Looks like he may have been the only one holding back the neocons from cranking up the military industrial complex.
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Is there a reason we are supposed to want good relations with North Korea? Or Syria? These people used ****ing sarin gas on their own people.

That's not even taking into account Iran's extracurricular activities, or Russia's adventures.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Is there a reason we are supposed to want good relations with North Korea? Or Syria? These people used ****ing sarin gas on their own people.

That's not even taking into account Iran's extracurricular activities, or Russia's adventures.
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Never said anything about having good relations with those particular nations, I just don't believe provoking war or engaging in unnecessary military conflict is beneficial to the US. Honestly, I believe those actions to be detrimental to not only Americans but for the world in general.
 
Nap said:
Never said anything about having good relations with those particular nations, I just don't believe provoking war or engaging in unnecessary military conflict is beneficial to the US. Honestly, I believe those actions to be detrimental to not only Americans but for the world in general.
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You explicitly mentioned those nations, indicating you disapprove of the fact that the US isn't appeasing them.

The probelm with that is that countries run by dicatators lack respect for anybody who won't stand up to them.
 
Bannon out?

This could be O'Reilly's chance!
 
Tigerace117 said:
You explicitly mentioned those nations, indicating you disapprove of the fact that the US isn't appeasing them.

The probelm with that is that countries run by dicatators lack respect for anybody who won't stand up to them.
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I disapprove of the US getting involved in unnecessary military conflict. While I find the actions of some of those countries detestable, I don't see using war as an appropriate response.
 
reinoe said:
Donald Trump is the most honest person in the White House since Eisenhower. Trump has done everything in his power to do what he said he'd do. Except for keeping the U.S. out of unnecessary foreign engagements.
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Dude the more I read your posts the more I realize you are in Bizzaroworld.

Or perhaps you just enjoy the rise you get out of people by being contrary?
 
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Nap said:
I disapprove of the US getting involved in unnecessary military conflict. While I find the actions of some of those countries detestable, I don't see using war as an appropriate response.
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Do the words false flag or wag the dog mean anything to you?
 
Nap said:
I disapprove of the US getting involved in unnecessary military conflict. While I find the actions of some of those countries detestable, I don't see using war as an appropriate response.
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So what should we be doing? Using harsh language? How well has that worked out?
 
Tigerace117 said:
So what should we be doing? Using harsh language? How well has that worked out?
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Why is it the responsibility of the United States to be doing anything at all? What are the European nations doing? I don't see any other country doing anything about all of the crap going on over there. If stuff like this were happening in Canada or even South America, I could see more of an argument. However, why is it the lone responsibility of the US to actively police the entire world using the lives and money of it's own citizens when there are other nearby countries that are equipped to deal with such matters.
 
EnigmaO01 said:
Dude the more I read your posts the more I realize you are in Bizzaroworld.

Or perhaps you just enjoy the rise you get out of people by being contrary?
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What has Trump not done that he didn't try to do?
 
It's like every week the media has a new story about the in fighting at the WH or a derogatory story about a cabinet member. Last week they honed in on Sec. of State Tillerson calling him Jared Kushner's understudy. Another story was about Trump being jealous of all the coverage Bannon had been receiving as the great strategist that gave Trump the presidency. The week before the rumors were Kellyanne Conway was on her way out. Then it was reported that both Priebus and Bannon were going to be replaced. Weeks before there were reports that Bannon and Preibus didn't get along.

Most of the coverage I believe has been purposely created to paint the WH as being totally incompetent and many of the reports have been proved false. However, after the interview Trump gave to the NY Post, it looks like Bannon's days could be numbered and the story about Trump being jealous of all the coverage Bannon received as a great political strategist may have some truth to it after all.

Trump won’t definitively say he still backs Bannon | New York Post

NY POST – Washington’s rumor mill is working overtime on the fate of aide Steve Bannon, who is said to be at the center of the rampant White House in-fighting. When I asked the President Tuesday afternoon if he still has confidence in Bannon, who took over the campaign in mid-August, I did not get a definitive yes.
“I like Steve, but you have to remember he was not involved in my campaign until very late,” Trump said. “I had already beaten all the senators and all the governors, and I didn’t know Steve. I’m my own strategist and it wasn’t like I was going to change strategies because I was facing crooked Hillary.”
He ended by saying, “Steve is a good guy, but I told them to straighten it out or I will.”
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reinoe said:
What has Trump not done that he didn't try to do?
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Release his taxes like he said he would. Not play golf as much (remember he said he wouldn't have time to play any golf). The guy lies his ass off and you excuse it. Pathetic.
 
Praxas said:
Release his taxes like he said he would. Not play golf as much (remember he said he wouldn't have time to play any golf). The guy lies his ass off and you excuse it. Pathetic.
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I don't care because that has nothing to do with policy.
 
reinoe said:
I don't care because that has nothing to do with policy.
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Actually it does have to do with policy. He has no problem cutting jobs and programs but has no problem spending the tax payers dime on golfing and being on track to spend more on vacations in a year than obama did in 8 years.
 
Nap said:
I'm starting to wonder if it really is such a good thing. Since Bannon has been pushed aside we have seen a missile attack on Syria and increased tension between the US and Russia, Iran, North Korea. Looks like he may have been the only one holding back the neocons from cranking up the military industrial complex.
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If he dumps Bannon he'll lose the portion of his support that won him Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin & Michigan,
I'm in favor of Bannon's stance on policy he better not lose the Bannon wing,
 
coldjoint said:
Look where we are, and ask yourself honestly how much worse could they possibly be?
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LOL, if you seriously think America is at absolute rock bottom and could not possibly get worse, buddy, you're living an in absurd fantasy land. It can very easily get much, much worse.
 
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