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Can you cure a terrorist?

Did I say that? Please quote.

Terrorism is a malady which can be easily cured with a regimen of lead injections. ;) Usually one treatment is sufficient.

So, did you mean molten lead injections with a super heat-resistant syringe?

/snort



Don't worry. I don't actually want to get into a conversation with posters who have a habit of trolling threads by saying deliberately provocative things with a clearly implied meaning, then attacking all the people who understood the clearly implied meaning. You know perfectly damn well that when you say shooting them is a solution and say nothing more, then you are communicating precisely the kind of thing tigerace AND chuckiechan rightly took you to mean.
 
The Shah tried much of that in Iran. It didnt work. You cant kill off an ideology.

A half hearted attempt at best with massive interference from many outside sources.

He never got to the needed changes to advance the country.

He let Khomeini fester like an infection until it was too late.

You can defeat a religious/legal system and it's been done many times over the course of history.

It's just messy and requires political will.
 
A double-tap to the brain pan is a guaranteed cure.
 
Well, I definitely despise how many civilians we keep killing with our drone strikes and the like.

Experience has proven we're terrible at rooting them out from an occupied country, which rather limits how we can fight them. But, they do have to be fought one way or another. Basically, if they are active terrorists not in the act of surrender, then they should be treated like any other type of enemy soldier who is not surrendering: killed.



We can't very well ignore them and hope they go away, unless we decide as a society to accept X hundred or X thousand deaths a year (I say that because I rather suspect the number of attackers and attacks would grow if we did not fight back).

I don't have a solution, but I can't accept doing nothing.

We don't kill them. The terrorists do.
 
A half hearted attempt at best with massive interference from many outside sources.

He never got to the needed changes to advance the country.

He let Khomeini fester like an infection until it was too late.

You can defeat a religious/legal system and it's been done many times over the course of history.

It's just messy and requires political will.
No...you cant. Certainly not a fundamentalist belief system that enjoys support in 50 countries.
 
So, did you mean molten lead injections with a super heat-resistant syringe?

/snort



Don't worry. I don't actually want to get into a conversation with posters who have a habit of trolling threads by saying deliberately provocative things with a clearly implied meaning, then attacking all the people who understood the clearly implied meaning. You know perfectly damn well that when you say shooting them is a solution and say nothing more, then you are communicating precisely the kind of thing tigerace AND chuckiechan rightly took you to mean.

Okay, how then do we prevent the scenario in the article linked in the OP? What are your solutions?
 
Inside the controversial scheme hoping to deradicalise ISIS recruits.

A judge in Minneapolis is hoping to reform Daesh terrorists into normal,young citizens.

Like most high school seniors Abdullahi Yusuf tried to avoid hugging his father in view of other teens.But on the morning of May 28,2014,as he was being dropped off in front of Heritage Academy in Southeast Minneapolis,the rail-thin 18-year-old,who went by the nickname Bones,startled his dad with a tender goodbye embrace.
Unbeknown to his father,Yusuf believed that he would never see any members of his family again.

Read the article here: ISIS recruits are being deradicalised from terrorists back into citizens | WIRED UK

This is a long article which I found interesting and I think that others may enjoy it.

This deradicalisation idea won't work for everyone but it could help some people.

It's worth trying, I guess. And doing research on how it works to get an idea, if there is therapy, how probable it is that it might work etc. would certainly be a very good idea.
 
It's worth trying, I guess. And doing research on how it works to get an idea, if there is therapy, how probable it is that it might work etc. would certainly be a very good idea.

A number of countries have these programs. Check the UK.
 
Better yet, can you define a terrorist?
 
Inside the controversial scheme hoping to deradicalise ISIS recruits.

A judge in Minneapolis is hoping to reform Daesh terrorists into normal,young citizens.

Like most high school seniors Abdullahi Yusuf tried to avoid hugging his father in view of other teens.But on the morning of May 28,2014,as he was being dropped off in front of Heritage Academy in Southeast Minneapolis,the rail-thin 18-year-old,who went by the nickname Bones,startled his dad with a tender goodbye embrace.
Unbeknown to his father,Yusuf believed that he would never see any members of his family again.

Read the article here: ISIS recruits are being deradicalised from terrorists back into citizens | WIRED UK

This is a long article which I found interesting and I think that others may enjoy it.

This deradicalisation idea won't work for everyone but it could help some people.

I'm an optimistic pessimist. I think that anyone, no matter their depravity, can be reformed. However, it's not the reality of what is most likely to occur. That said, they still gotta pay for whatever crime they committed, reformed or not.
 
Inside the controversial scheme hoping to deradicalise ISIS recruits.

A judge in Minneapolis is hoping to reform Daesh terrorists into normal,young citizens.

Like most high school seniors Abdullahi Yusuf tried to avoid hugging his father in view of other teens.But on the morning of May 28,2014,as he was being dropped off in front of Heritage Academy in Southeast Minneapolis,the rail-thin 18-year-old,who went by the nickname Bones,startled his dad with a tender goodbye embrace.
Unbeknown to his father,Yusuf believed that he would never see any members of his family again.

Read the article here: ISIS recruits are being deradicalised from terrorists back into citizens | WIRED UK

This is a long article which I found interesting and I think that others may enjoy it.

This deradicalisation idea won't work for everyone but it could help some people.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5144810/
Over a lifetime, the only highly stable part of our personality is our moods. The only other significantly stable aspect is how conscientious we are. Everything else is fairly unstable. If the core of our personality is in such flux, an ideology should be even more fluid.

(And that's likely because conscientiousness is associated with higher cognitive ability,...as many posters "elegantly" demonstrate.)
 
Someday people will realize that you have to be just as brutal as the aggressors by turning them into little greasy spots where ever we find them.

They don't fear us because they know we have to follow the rules, and all the other required BS.
 
It's worth trying, I guess.
And doing research on how it works to get an idea, if there is therapy, how probable it is that it might work etc. would certainly be a very good idea.



That's the main thing that the Wired article talks about.
 
Someday people will realize that you have to be just as brutal as the aggressors by turning them into little greasy spots where ever we find them.

They don't fear us because they know we have to follow the rules, and all the other required BS.

Don't ask one of those Doctors Without Borders how well the US follows the rules. We bomb their hospitals as we deem necessary.
 
That's the main thing that the Wired article talks about.

That is why I thought the article interesting, though, the insights were limited.
 
A number of countries have these programs. Check the UK.

Yes. It was mentioned in a recent article in Foreign Affairs on the reasons for so many terrorists in second or third generation immigrants in France and U.K.
 
Inside the controversial scheme hoping to deradicalise ISIS recruits.

A judge in Minneapolis is hoping to reform Daesh terrorists into normal,young citizens.

Like most high school seniors Abdullahi Yusuf tried to avoid hugging his father in view of other teens.But on the morning of May 28,2014,as he was being dropped off in front of Heritage Academy in Southeast Minneapolis,the rail-thin 18-year-old,who went by the nickname Bones,startled his dad with a tender goodbye embrace.
Unbeknown to his father,Yusuf believed that he would never see any members of his family again.

Read the article here: ISIS recruits are being deradicalised from terrorists back into citizens | WIRED UK

This is a long article which I found interesting and I think that others may enjoy it.

This deradicalisation idea won't work for everyone but it could help some people.



Easy, a .45 to the head.
 
Yes. It was mentioned in a recent article in Foreign Affairs on the reasons for so many terrorists in second or third generation immigrants in France and U.K.

I would add that when a sub group is excluded from society, the anger will build.
Add in plain discrimination, Justice and Law Enforcement interactions can either be negative or positive.
Outreach to the community and identifying those at risk, intervening, and not jailing them.
I am just speaking in general terms
 
I would add that when a sub group is excluded from society, the anger will build.

The subgroups often exclude themselves by whatever mechanism.

When assimilation occurs all tensions lower and the larger group prospers.
 
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