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    Re: With a 10-day supply of opioids, 1 in 5 become long-term users

    So, my own needless pain pill prescription.



    I had an infection because stuff got jammed under a gum and I couldn't get it all out it in time. When the infection really caused inflammation - in the middle of a restaurant meal the next day - I had trouble focusing on the conversation and didn't sleep that night, and I do have a rather high tolerance for discomfort in general. By the next morning, the pain was down - I suspect a lot of it had to do with pressure on the outside of the inflammed tissue while eating.

    Anyway, I tell them I'm just there for a course of antibiotics and I have no pain at the moment. What am I handed? Prescriptions for a course of antibiotics and six Vicodin. A few days worth.


    Granted, hydrocodone is one of the weaker opioids - the real problems surround Oxycodone, morphine, oxymorphine (but curiously, not hydromorphone so much, of dilaudid - makes people out of it, but not in the same bitingly good euphoric way as the other two I just mentioned), di-acetyle-morphine (heroin), and fentanyl.

    I figured.....what the hell, I might as well fill it in case I manage to fall down the stairs and break something, then want to dull the pain until I get it set. But still, why'd you give me that? I told you I didn't need it.


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    Re: With a 10-day supply of opioids, 1 in 5 become long-term users

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Person View Post
    So, my own needless pain pill prescription.



    I had an infection because stuff got jammed under a gum and I couldn't get it all out it in time. When the infection really caused inflammation - in the middle of a restaurant meal the next day - I had trouble focusing on the conversation and didn't sleep that night, and I do have a rather high tolerance for discomfort in general. By the next morning, the pain was down - I suspect a lot of it had to do with pressure on the outside of the inflammed tissue while eating.

    Anyway, I tell them I'm just there for a course of antibiotics and I have no pain at the moment. What am I handed? Prescriptions for a course of antibiotics and six Vicodin. A few days worth.


    Granted, hydrocodone is one of the weaker opioids - the real problems surround Oxycodone, morphine, oxymorphine (but curiously, not hydromorphone so much, of dilaudid - makes people out of it, but not in the same bitingly good euphoric way as the other two I just mentioned), di-acetyle-morphine (heroin), and fentanyl.

    I figured.....what the hell, I might as well fill it in case I manage to fall down the stairs and break something, then want to dull the pain until I get it set. But still, why'd you give me that? I told you I didn't need it.

    Simple- he gave it to you for the exact same reason you got it filled.

    You might need it, and when you do, it's a bigger hassle to deal with if you don't have them.

    For you, it's a trip to the pharmacy. For him, it's a PITA after hours call to call in an expert to a pharmacy.
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    Re: With a 10-day supply of opioids, 1 in 5 become long-term users

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    "I'm not sure what you're advocating for, but it sounds like your intention is the same as the OP's: demonize drugs and drug users. But just opiate users. Keep killing yourself every other way. That makes you a good old fashioned American."

    I agree education is terrible on use of opiates because I've recounted my experiences with them and counseling is next to nil that I've seen, but I do see signs of that improving, and it's because of the media attention on the issue. I cannot speak to experiences of those in chronic pain because I haven't seen any data on that. E.g. if the issue is whether doctors are withholding pain meds from patients with a legitimate need for them, I have not seen that or evidence that it's happening.
    I realize that demonizing addicts was not your intention. So I apologize for that but I don't think we disagree on much. I think - again - we have different experiences because we live in different states that have different doctors, policies, etc. Here is a study of 2,000 pain patients that show the new guidelines are cutting off necessary medication. You clearly have a personal relationship to this issue but you admittedly aren't aware of the details of recent changes in DEA laws.
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