‘No Evidence’: Republican Lawmakers Want Answers About President Trump’s Wiretapping

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Kobie said:

Oh, I can't wait till this all comes crashing down. It's going to be glorious.

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In case you haven't been paying attention, this isn't looking good for the anti-Trump forces.

The MSM says there was a wiretap. Obama, Comey and Clapper say it wasn't.

The NYT says Obama took classified material. Obama says he didn't.

Chris Coons revealed information from a FISA warrant. Then he said that isn't what he meant.

General Flynn was illegally surveilled. Then, the surveillance was illegally leaked.

There's some **** that's going to come crashing down, alright.

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apdst said:

In case you haven't been paying attention, this isn't looking good for the anti-Trump forces.

The MSM says there was a wiretap. Obama, Comey and Clapper say it wasn't.

The NYT says Obama took classified material. Obama says he didn't.

Chris Coons revealed information from a FISA warrant. Then he said that isn't what he meant.

General Flynn was illegally surveilled. Then, the surveillance was illegally leaked.

There's some **** that's going to come crashing down, alright.

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Do you honestly expect me to take a word you have to say seriously?

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Kobie said:

Do you honestly expect me to take a word you have to say seriously?

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Oh...of course not. That's the best part! :lamo

You probably should, though; this doesn't look good for your team.

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Thing is, they never liked Trump and knew he was full of sh*t.

But, for the sake of political expedience (and survival, to be frank) along with making headway with their plutocratic agenda, they put their support behind him.

America is gonna pay for that decision. Hell, it already is.

Cigar said:

Wow ... you should like me, back in 2008, then I got educated on real politics.

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You used to be a blind, right wing ideologue?

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apdst said:

Oh...of course not. That's the best part! :lamo

You probably should, though; this doesn't look good for your team.

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You're a known liar; ergo, nothing you say is relevant. Bye, Felicia.

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Kobie said:

You're a known liar; ergo, nothing you say is relevant. Bye, Felicia.

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A personal attack! There's a shocker! :lamo

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Wire tapping by our government has been going on illegally longer than I have been alive. While they cannot use the information in a court of law they can use the information. Hoover was well known for listening in on everyone. Information is power and anyone who thinks our CIA or FBI only wire tap and listen in on people when they have a legal warrant is as naive as a toddler. They are recording phone calls, internet use, and have listening devises planted everywhere they believe important people may be having private conversions. Do I think our government bugged Trump. NO. I know they bugged Trump and everyone around him as well as the rest of the candidates. Please tell me you people are not this naive.

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This is one emotion filled thread!

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To be fair I am not exactly enjoying the downfall of the democratic party. I see it as a bit of comeuppance though.

Debbie Wasaman Shultz pushed out for conspiracy with media and the hillary campaign against Bernie. Bernie never really felt the Bern. It was all theatre.

Donna Brazil pushed out for feeding the hillary campaign debate questions. That was just pure lazy and stupid.

Thousands of legislature seats down the tubes thanks the the disintegrating coattails of the previous occupier of the oval office.

All but 5 states lost its governerships for same.

Weaponizing the IRS against political targets.

Wiretapping reporters and political opponents.

an so on and so on ad infinitum.

I can really empathize with this feeling you guys have as I have felt this way for the near entirety of the previous administration. dont worry. We can get through it. I did react differently however.




I just worked 70 plus hour weeks to make up for the economic hits I took in the areas of healthcare. A thousand percent increase of premiums and a deductible increase of 7000 dollars. The 18 providers in the original deal have jumped ship and now there are 3 and they are looking for the door.

I hope this deal gets done fast and they steamroll the obstructionists because I want some relief. If you really need to blame someone blame the media who lied to your face for 18 months throwing a 95% chance of hillary winning according to hollywood, the media, and the establishment in DC while ignoring the rest of the country.

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Kobie said:

But he's better than Hillary Clinton! LOL


Anyone who thinks Donald Trump is a better president than pretty much any other American who's not a serial killer should be summarily dismissed. He's literally the worst person for the job in the country.

If you are a Donald Trump supporter, you are a moron. Period, end of conversation. Nothing you say matters, forever.

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Thank you for your opinion.

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You'd think with an allegation of such a massive conspiracy analogous to Watergate he would at least make it somewhere other than twitter for once

As in "200 character limit can't contain my dismay so i'm going on faux news instead"

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Wait and see. More info might come out.

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There were requests to put wire-taps on Trump Tower! That's a fact!

The idea that FISA could be used against political enemies always seemed far-fetched. Now it might not be.

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Read more at: Obama & FISA: Trump Wiretap May Have Been Sought | National Review

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Kobie said:

Oh, I can't wait till this all comes crashing down. It's going to be glorious.

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President Donald J Trump said his Presidency would be a, "glorious thing" .............. bet he did not know how much so :lamo

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Captain Adverse said:

I agree with them.

If there is evidence, present it.

If this is an unfounded allegation? Then a retraction and a mea culpa.

I don't support innuendo and false reporting from either side. :coffeepap:

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If there is no evidence then why did the FISA court reject the Obama administration 2 times for a petition then
a new judge granted a more limited petition regarding other people that might have been in trump tower.

it will be simple let him present the redacted petitions.

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Chomsky said:

This is one emotion filled thread!

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It really does appear like the Obama administration tried to tap trumps lines a couple of times.
2 petitions were rejected by the fisa court.

the 3rd attempt was granted but on a very limited basis and it didn't include trump in the petition.
that doesn't that the people they were tapping didn't live in trump tower.

So there is evidence that the Obama administration did in fact try and tap trumps phones.

if so that is a major major deal to me and it should be to other people.

it shows just how corrupt the DOJ was under the Obama administration since they are the only ones that
can petition the court to begin with.

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tosca1 said:

Wait and see. More info might come out.

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Alright.

I am actively waiting.

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ludin said:

it will be simple let him present the redacted petitions.

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Whenever he would like.
He can declassify on the fly.
If he doesn't show us these things, it may be because he decided that seeing these things would not help.

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Cigar said:

Politics became personal a long time ago ... I remember a time when Presidents weren't asked to show their papers.

So it's deeply personal.

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Like their personal tax returns?

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ludin said:

It really does appear like the Obama administration tried to tap trumps lines a couple of times.
2 petitions were rejected by the fisa court.

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Those petitions do not appear to be targeting Trump nor his phone lines.

At least according to some dude at National Review.
The guy specifically says that he has "stressed" that being mentioned in a warrant is not the same thing as being the target of a warrant.
[Though he really goes out of his way to use rhetorical devices designed to lead the reader to the opposite conclusion of what he is "stressing"]
The second request for a FISA warrant—the one which was actually approved—doesn't even mention Trump.


To believe that the first one targets Trump, you have to accept that it's reasonable to see Trump as a foreign intelligence agent.
Personally, I don't know anyone who thinks that it's reasonable to see President Trump as a foreign intelligence agent.
I suspect that a FISC judge did not decide that Trump was a foreign intelligence agent.


Personally, it would take a great deal of convincing for me to decide Trump was a foreign intelligence agent.

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I see this as the latest fodder in the battle. Trump won't back down.

Drain the swamp!

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ludin said:

It really does appear like the Obama administration tried to tap trumps lines a couple of times.
2 petitions were rejected by the fisa court. the 3rd attempt was granted but on a very limited basis and it didn't include trump in the petition.
that doesn't that the people they were tapping didn't live in trump tower. So there is evidence that the Obama administration did in fact try and tap trumps phones. if so that is a major major deal to me and it should be to other people. it shows just how corrupt the DOJ was under the Obama administration since they are the only ones that can petition the court to begin with.

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First both the Former DNI director and apparently now Comey have denied a wire tap ever existed. (for all the Trumpers try and call it the 'Obama Administration' fact is Comey is part of the Trump Administration... :roll: )

Second why can't Trump just call Comey to the Oval Office and get a DIRECT answer???? WTF, Comey is TRUMP'S man now!!!!!

Third- Trump doesn't want an answer, just like in the 'great' Obama Birth Certificate investigation, he just wants a diversion. Wanting Congress to investigate this is just a way to try and detract from the half dozen investigations Congress is doing into HIS administration... :doh

Let's all try to remember that Congress is controlled by the REPUBLICANS. They alone decide what gets investigated. So far no REPUBLICAN Congressman sees anything worth investigating and that is far more telling than Breitbart... eace

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notquiteright said:

First both the Former DNI director and apparently now Comey have denied a wire tap ever existed. (for all the Trumpers try and call it the 'Obama Administration' fact is Comey is part of the Trump Administration... :roll: )

Second why can't Trump just call Comey to the Oval Office and get a DIRECT answer???? WTF, Comey is TRUMP'S man now!!!!!

Third- Trump doesn't want an answer, just like in the 'great' Obama Birth Certificate investigation, he just wants a diversion. Wanting Congress to investigate this is just a way to try and detract from the half dozen investigations Congress is doing into HIS administration... :doh

Let's all try to remember that Congress is controlled by the REPUBLICANS. They alone decide what gets investigated. So far no REPUBLICAN Congressman sees anything worth investigating and that is far more telling than Breitbart... eace

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As PotUS, Trump can declassify material on the fly.
Trump could show us whatever evidence he thought would help.

He's playing the victim card.
But he's The Boss now.
There's no one in the world more qualified to do something about Trump's problem than Trump.
So, whenever he gets ready, he'll act.

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WCH said:

Like their personal tax returns?

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Or their Birth Certificate ... BTW, what does Donny look like? Did anyone demand proof? Where is it posted on-line?

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Cigar said:

Or their Birth Certificate ... BTW, what does Donny look like? Did anyone demand proof? Where is it posted on-line?

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