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He yelled ‘Get out of my country,’ witnesses say, and then shot 2 men from India, kil

Re: He yelled ‘Get out of my country,’ witnesses say, and then shot 2 men from India,

So if a white guy shoots somebody he's mentally ill, but if a Muslim does it, then it's because of his religion? Hmmm...

Same thing. Religious extremism is a form of mental illness.
 
Re: He yelled ‘Get out of my country,’ witnesses say, and then shot 2 men from India,

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Interesting news, didn't see it posted, thought I'd share.

Any thoughts or comments ?


What I don't understand is how this does not count as terrorism, yet Bowling Green does, and that was imaginary, and never happened.
 
Re: He yelled ‘Get out of my country,’ witnesses say, and then shot 2 men from India,

There the rabid right goes again-

Trying to make apples look like oranges... :doh

When anti-trump protesters start shooting people who look like trump supporters and the Democrats in congress remain silent----

THEN crap like above will have some weight... til then it is a useful and Trump's first EO travel ban.

Course some of us see the President's words as worth a dozen Senators- especially when those Senators disagree with Trump... :peace

YOu're right, it is apples to oranges. On one hand, you demand that Pres. Trump denounce this violence that had no connection to him whatsoever, on the other hand you accept the silence from all Dem. leadership about violence done in direct support of their agenda. My apologies for assuming that the two the same, since one if FAR worse for this country than the other (just to be clear, the one that's worse is the Dems.).
 
Re: He yelled ‘Get out of my country,’ witnesses say, and then shot 2 men from India,

So if a white guy shoots somebody he's mentally ill, but if a Muslim does it, then it's because of his religion? Hmmm...

NO, if a mentally ill person shoots someone because they are mentally ill, it's because they are mentally ill. If a Muslim shoots someone because they are Muslim, it's because they are a Muslim.
 
Re: He yelled ‘Get out of my country,’ witnesses say, and then shot 2 men from India,

pretty sad news; the shooter should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law possible

this murderer is guilty of 'xenophobic extremist terrorism' ........
 
Re: He yelled ‘Get out of my country,’ witnesses say, and then shot 2 men from India,

Trump brings out the worst in people. Intolerance, hatred and small minds is what he inspires.

Maybe he should be more like the tolerant Left has been, lately.
 
Re: He yelled ‘Get out of my country,’ witnesses say, and then shot 2 men from India,

pretty sad news; the shooter should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law possible

this murderer is guilty of 'xenophobic extremist terrorism' ........

Gun murders should carry a mandatory death sentence.
 
Re: He yelled ‘Get out of my country,’ witnesses say, and then shot 2 men from India,

Unfortunately some people are not "healthy" enough to know what to take seriously.

For sure we all thought Obama and/or his justice department inappropriately jumped the gun many times to pass personal judgment before the situation was fully investigated and all the facts were in. And also meddling in situations in which there was no justification for it.

President Trump and his justice department NOT doing that is very reassuring to me.
 
Re: He yelled ‘Get out of my country,’ witnesses say, and then shot 2 men from India,

its Bushes fault!

its Obamas fault!

its Trumps fault!

It's this nut job's fault.
 
Re: He yelled ‘Get out of my country,’ witnesses say, and then shot 2 men from India,

Gun murders should carry a mandatory death sentence.


I don't believe in the death penalty generally but that's another thread in itself

this murderer at a minimum needs to spend the rest of his life on Earth behind bars without any potential for release, until which time he is dead; then they can let him out ........
 
Re: He yelled ‘Get out of my country,’ witnesses say, and then shot 2 men from India,

its Bushes fault!

its Obamas fault!

its Trumps fault!

He used a gun and yelled something like "get out of my country" because he supposedly thought they were Muslims.

Wonder where he heard that sort of rhetoric ?

Have any evidence Bush or Obama suggested such outrageous things ?







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Re: He yelled ‘Get out of my country,’ witnesses say, and then shot 2 men from India,

He used a gun and yelled something like "get out of my country" because he supposedly thought they were Muslims.

Wonder where he heard that sort of rhetoric ?

Have any evidence Bush or Obama suggested such outrageous things ?







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does not matter, he's a sick person.

trying to blame someone else is fools errand
 
Re: He yelled ‘Get out of my country,’ witnesses say, and then shot 2 men from India,

This guy is telling people the USA is not safe and not to come here? And he is from India where gang raping teenage girls for punishing a family is actually legal... he can just leave thank you. India is a dump.

My sentiments, exactly.

That said...in lieu of the current political climate, this hate crime was almost predictable.
 
Re: He yelled ‘Get out of my country,’ witnesses say, and then shot 2 men from India,

The more I read about these senseless shootings, the more I realize our country fails those few of us whose mental health has slipped beneath the waves. We should and could do much better. Why DID we close mental health hospitals? Today, more than ever, we need them. And we need easier procedures in place so that family and friends can step in and get people the help the need.

You can thank Ronald Reagan for that.

HOW RELEASE OF MENTAL PATIENTS BEGAN - NYTimes.com
 
Re: He yelled ‘Get out of my country,’ witnesses say, and then shot 2 men from India,

Right, it's so hypocritical to e against rape. At least we know that you are in the pro-rape camp.
I am in the pro consistency of proclaimed beliefs camp.
 
Re: He yelled ‘Get out of my country,’ witnesses say, and then shot 2 men from India,


Okay, I read the entire article. Would you please point out where it says Ronald Reagan is responsible for this change in how mental illness came to be treated?

Edit... I'm especially interested because I'm reading Killing Reagan right now.
 
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Re: He yelled ‘Get out of my country,’ witnesses say, and then shot 2 men from India,

"Silence is consent"?? Then the Democrat Congresscritters who haven'e said anything about the violent anti-conservative protests all approve of them. Glad we got that cleared up.

Good. Point.
 
Re: He yelled ‘Get out of my country,’ witnesses say, and then shot 2 men from India,

Perhaps he learned something from Obama's mistakes and has decided to wait until the smoke clears before stepping into the fire.

Or maybe he means what he says when he says that local matters should be handled locally, that those folks should do their job and he will do his job, that Presidents should stay in their lane.
 
Re: He yelled ‘Get out of my country,’ witnesses say, and then shot 2 men from India,

Do you honestly think that had a man of Arab decent shot three white men while yelling Allah Akbar, Trump would be silent about it?

Besides the point, there are not enough hours in the day to speak out about everything we dont approve of. As per usually we see the people at Slate taking a decent point and then exaggerating it ten fold to a cartoonish level when it plays to their anti-Trump bias, they who for weeks ran a banner to the effect "Send us money so that we can help STOP TRUMP" before he had even started the job. They feel like they are holy warriors on a mission to save America from our choice of Trump...like Mother Jones...thats how bad they are now, worse even than VOX.
 
Re: He yelled ‘Get out of my country,’ witnesses say, and then shot 2 men from India,

Okay, I read the entire article. Would you please point out where it says Ronald Reagan is responsible for this change in how mental illness came to be treated?

Edit... I'm especially interested because I'm reading Killing Reagan right now.

The 5th paragraph touches on it, but here in more detail...

Ronald Reagan?s shameful legacy: Violence, the homeless, mental illness - Salon.com
 
Re: He yelled ‘Get out of my country,’ witnesses say, and then shot 2 men from India,


Thank you very much for this. Very interesting. The link explains his legacy in the mental health arena very well. I found this fascinating...

President Reagan never understood mental illness. Like Richard Nixon, he was a product of the Southern California culture that associated psychiatry with Communism. Two months after taking office, Reagan was shot by John Hinckley, a young man with untreated schizophrenia. Two years later, Reagan called Dr. Roger Peele, then director of St. Elizabeths Hospital, where Hinckley was being treated, and tried to arrange to meet with Hinckley, so that Reagan could forgive him. Peele tactfully told the president that this was not a good idea. Reagan was also exposed to the consequences of untreated mental illness through the two sons of Roy Miller, his personal tax advisor. Both sons developed schizophrenia; one committed suicide in 1981, and the other killed his mother in 1983. Despite such personal exposure, Reagan never exhibited any interest in the need for research or better treatment for serious mental illness.
 
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