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UMich students demand no-whites-allowed space to plot ‘social justice’ activism

Mac77 said:
Because the black snowflakes have been brainwashed by liberals to hate white people
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what the white people here have in common with the 'black snowflakes' is we really hate outsiders trying to dictate what can or should go on here
 
chromium said:
Man you are pretty clueless about things here. This is a university with billions. The government isn't paying for jack, less than 2% of the budget in fact. Everything that's built, and there are cranes all over, is done so out of donor funds. So it's none of your business

But to answer this question on the minds of everyone who isn't a complete hater troll, they want affirmation that has grown more and more against them. Back in around 2003 the college fought to the supreme court to preserve affirmation action / racial quotas. Now recently the uneducated voters of the state passed a restriction on this and the college didn't exactly fight it. Black/hispanic population is down to the point they feel out of place and unwelcome, like a minority in the suburbs. No one wants to work with them on projects, under the assumption that they're unqualified to be here.

Well i can tell you as a white kid from a poor background i've always felt damn out of place. Less than 1% are first gen students and there was an article in student paper where the author tries to argue her street cred, that she comes from "relative poverty" - a $2 mil house in palo alto. So i get tired of the bitching from BAMN and the like, as they couldn't give a damn about poor kids who aren't black. The group in question also annoys the piss out of people by blocking bus routes and such. They're acting like it's vietnam and they have to protest or they'll be shipped off next. They should be more grateful that they weren't one of the tens of thousands rejected

In other words this is just the continuation of the protests from 2003, but since they're losing this time, they're lashing out more.
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Wow. That's a pretty long-winded missive. Everything you said may or may not be true... and completely 100% irrelevant to the thread topic.
 
radcen said:
Are there exceptions? Are there women-only support groups, for example?
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i had a white neighbor in the "black students" group. Almost certainly this is all a lie by the blogger, or they see a room where they can gather as harmless
 
radcen said:
Wow. That's a pretty long-winded missive. Everything you said may or may not be true... and completely 100% irrelevant to the thread topic.
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you're right, it's foolish of me to waste time on you any more

any outsider in this thread who thinks they should have any influence on what goes on here goes on ignore, best way to handle it, and reflects the reality of the situation
 
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chromium said:
you're right, it's foolish of me to waste time on you any more

any outsider in this thread who thinks they should have any influence on what goes on here goes on ignore, best way to handle it, and reflects the reality of the situation
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Yes, it is foolish of you to waste your time. You've clearly declared that you're close-minded and not interested in even the topic of the thread, given your need to talk about anything but.
 
Trippy Trekker said:
I gave this topic and OP seem deep thought. Back in the mid 1970s I had a smart Jewish friend, Chuck, who attended Univ. of Michigan as a zoology major. After he graduated there, we both ended up at University of Florida. Chuck went to UF Med school.
Since then, in 2014 I finally made it to Michigan for my first and only time, stayed a couple days on my way to Madison WI... and not for a visit, more for a work-related project. Now factor in, I consider the 'No Whites Allowed Space For Social Justice Activism' a ridiculous request. I don't consider myself White or Black. I just don't have a dog in this fight. I decline any invitation to join in.
That said, I have two more semi-related comments: 1. I believe Towson University graduate and White Activist Michael Heimbach would have some helpful advice. 2. If something similar happened at the University of Florida, I would have keen interest... and feel utterly confident both Florida Senators, Bill Nelson and Marco Rubio (both of whom attended the University of Florida), would quickly step in and orchestrate an end to the nonsense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Student_Union_(Towson_University)
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The state legislature has been trying to micromanage and block classes on sexuality, atheism and the like for a while. But when less than 2% of the budget comes from the state, guess who doesn't have influence? In fact, there's a lot of talk now of privatizing
 
WCH said:
My youngest is a UT grad but, she served in the Air force to toughen herself up.
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My heart loves "the universuty"

But my brain tells me that have lost their minds
 
Ikari said:
They can probably even reserve a room in the Union or something and police their own members to exclude whites.
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If it were on campus, then it could be considered and being condoned by the University right? Therefore discrimination...


I don't see why the University would need to produce a specific and permanent "No Whitey" room.
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They don't, and they should work to educate these young people as to why their racist demands are wrong....Now, let's carry that argument to Congress...Why is there a CBC? Why is there a CHC?
 
AlbqOwl said:
The scary thing is that this is just the tip of the iceberg of the insanity that is being promoted out there. I hope to hell the pendulum swings back to common sense soon because all this kind of stuff is just nuts as well as scary and dangerous.
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I recently graduated college. This kind of stuff isn't the norm. I would say this kind of stuff is not common across US universities.
 
SheWolf said:
I recently graduated college. This kind of stuff isn't the norm. I would say this kind of stuff is not common across US universities.
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I certainly hope you're right. I would like to think that universities across the nation are institutions of higher learning and not indoctrination centers where only one school of thought is acceptable to be expressed or heard.
 
AlbqOwl said:
I certainly hope you're right. I would like to think that universities across the nation are institutions of higher learning and not indoctrination centers where only one school of thought is acceptable to be expressed or heard.
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There are certain degree programs and departments that are basically indoctrination centers. U of M has a really good law school and medical school, and good engineering and business schools, for example. These schools don't typically have much to do with these antics. But it also has the nation's best graduate social work school, which has very much to do with these kinds of antics. The National Association of Social Workers has a professional code of ethics that says students and social workers have an ethical obligation to engage in political activism. And UMich is consistently hailed as the best in the nation.

The annoying thing I notice uneducated conservatives doing is generalizing these incidents and antics to higher education in general, as though all schools and departments within all universities are engaging in this kind of buffoonery. It's not the case. It's common in universities because late teens and early twenties kids are typically the most liberal of any age group, and humanities and soft science professors are typically too ideologically liberal to function outside of the safety of universities' social science departments, but this isn't universal to higher ed in general. The biggest problem is in the humanities and social studies.
 
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A white person at one of these meetings would feel as comfortable as JC Watts was at the Congressional Black Congress.
 
SheWolf said:
I recently graduated college. This kind of stuff isn't the norm. I would say this kind of stuff is not common across US universities.
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It's not common at UM at all. Far more common is the trespassing loons in their 60s with their "You deserve hell" signs. But those get the seal of approval from conservatives
 
Neomalthusian said:
There are certain degree programs and departments that are basically indoctrination centers. U of M has a really good law school and medical school, and good engineering and business schools, for example. These schools don't typically have much to do with these antics. But it also has the nation's best graduate social work school, which has very much to do with these kinds of antics. The National Association of Social Workers has a professional code of ethics that says students and social workers have an ethical obligation to engage in political activism. And UMich is consistently hailed as the best in the nation.

The annoying thing I notice uneducated conservatives doing is generalizing these incidents and antics to higher education in general, as though all schools and departments within all universities are engaging in this kind of buffoonery. It's not the case. It's common in universities because late teens and early twenties kids are typically the most liberal of any age group, and humanities and soft science professors are typically too ideologically liberal to function outside of the safety of universities' social science departments, but this isn't universal to higher ed in general. The biggest problem is in the humanities and social studies.
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You were doing fine with your argument until you just couldn't resist throwing the 'uneducated conservatives' in there. :)

But you can't argue away the fact that these demonstrations are happening across the country and that the huge bulk of academic faculties describe themselves as Democrats or liberal or progressive. And this perpetuates itself as many conservative professors have found the academic environment inhospitable to them leaving a general trend of fewer than 15% describing themselves as Republican or libertarian or conservative. And when a faculty so skewed in one ideology is not interested in exposing the students to any other point of view, it results in an environment toxic to any other thought. No effort is made to encourage any diversity of thought.

This recent survey of the student population at Yale I do not believe is atypical among many U.S. colleges and universities:
Yale Conservatives: Students Report Liberal Bias | National Review

And IMO this results in more intolerance, more dogmatism, more negative opinions of people who don't share progressive ideology as you demonstrated in your post, more hateful proactive reaction to 'heretics', and more racist views as is the topic of this thread.

A recent survey of the student body at Yale
 
AlbqOwl said:
You were doing fine with your argument until you just couldn't resist throwing the 'uneducated conservatives' in there. :)
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Do you believe any liberals might be "uneducated" and therefore might take bad positions?
 
The entire faculty and Administration should be fired.

They obviously are recruiting, retaining and indoctrinating dumb asses...
 
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