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DNC chair candidate wants to 'shut other white people down'

I saw Tom Perez on TV this morning - seemed way to moderate for the current iteration of the Democrats so he's probably out.

I agree Sally "Nutcase" Brown would set back the Democrats 20 years with her methods. A swell choice for Democrats.
 
Sweden said:
Oh NO! Not another attempt to try and pretend that a clip of a random mad woman - like the one who was removed from the plane - has something to do with the Democrat Party.
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According to the article, this random mad woman is a DNC chair candidate.
 
jimbo said:
According to the article, this random mad woman is a DNC chair candidate.
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I suggest the DNC Chair be held by all of them on a rotating basis so there'd be a different loon for Tucker Carlson to interview every day.
 
Nap said:
The stupidity was her not addressing policies that people in the states she lost connected with.

Both were seriously flawed candidates but ultimately Trump was able to gain the support of the majority of states. If the election were based on nothing but the popular vote they would have run different campaigns so holding Trump because he didn't win a completely irrelevant national vote is even more erroneous.
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You don't understand what i'm saying.

She didn't make up fake campaign promises to pander to those states like "i can rewind time and bring back high paying jobs."

She ran the more honest campaign, and she lost for it.
 
Absentglare said:
You don't understand what i'm saying.

She didn't make up fake campaign promises to pander to those states like "i can rewind time and bring back high paying jobs."

She ran the more honest campaign, and she lost for it.
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Bernie Sanders would vehemently disagree.
 
Erod said:
Bernie Sanders would vehemently disagree.
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No doubt, and I voted for Bernie, but Bernie made his bed, frankly. He spent a lifetime in politics often proudly NOT-A-DEMOCRAT, then decided to run for POTUS, recognized his own "party" doesn't exist, gave him 0.00% chance to get elected, and so opted to freeload off the Democratic party that he's done actually nothing to support over those decades in politics.

Anyone thinking the party leadership is going to ignore that and treat him like an actual Democrat is not realistic and is quite frankly not very bright, especially against a person like Hillary who had spent decades working with the party leaders, raising money, supporting Democratic candidates all over the country, etc. So I actually think he got as fair a chance as he deserved from the PARTY itself, and he just came up a bit short. That's too bad, but it's also reality.

Besides, Trump did roughly the same thing but on the GOP side, got the same general treatment from the party leadership (actually FAR worse in my view - no concerted #NeverBernie effort on the left) and overcame it. Good for him, but if he'd lost, I don't think it would have been fair for him to whine about the Republican PARTY not supporting him - he didn't earn their support.
 
JasperL said:
No doubt, and I voted for Bernie, but Bernie made his bed, frankly. He spent a lifetime in politics often proudly NOT-A-DEMOCRAT, then decided to run for POTUS, recognized his own "party" doesn't exist, gave him 0.00% chance to get elected, and so opted to freeload off the Democratic party that he's done actually nothing to support over those decades in politics.

Anyone thinking the party leadership is going to ignore that and treat him like an actual Democrat is not realistic and is quite frankly not very bright, especially against a person like Hillary who had spent decades working with the party leaders, raising money, supporting Democratic candidates all over the country, etc. So I actually think he got as fair a chance as he deserved from the PARTY itself, and he just came up a bit short. That's too bad, but it's also reality.

Besides, Trump did roughly the same thing but on the GOP side, got the same general treatment from the party leadership (actually FAR worse in my view - no concerted #NeverBernie effort on the left) and overcame it. Good for him, but if he'd lost, I don't think it would have been fair for him to whine about the Republican PARTY not supporting him - he didn't earn their support.
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I'm pretty sure that Bernie Sanders would agree with me that Hillary ran a more honest campaign than President Trump.
 
Absentglare said:
I'm pretty sure that Bernie Sanders would agree with me that Hillary ran a more honest campaign than President Trump.
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Yeah, that very wealthy 3 home owning "socialist" is ripe full of honesty.
 
Absentglare said:
That's just a mind numbingly stupid analysis. Hillary got more votes. What she didn't do is exploit the electoral college to get a win.
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What a gross oversimplification. He played by the rules of the game, if the rules were different, if each vote mattered, he would have focused more on those who stayed home since their state was going to go blue anyways. He would have utilized another strategy then.

Don't get mad that he won playing by the rules snowflake.
 
Renae said:
Yeah, that very wealthy 3 home owning "socialist" is ripe full of honesty.
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He's a self-described democratic socialist which basically means that he wants the government to help the people rather than the rich.
 
Spartacus FPV said:
What a gross oversimplification. He played by the rules of the game, if the rules were different, if each vote mattered, he would have focused more on those who stayed home since their state was going to go blue anyways. He would have utilized another strategy then.

Don't get mad that he won playing by the rules snowflake.
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I'm not mad and i'm no snowflake.

The point was argued that Hillary should have pandered to voters in key areas to win. The fact that she didn't speaks perhaps to her integrity or perhaps to her incompetence. In either case, what she failed to do was lie and exploit the EC to win. President Trump did that very well.
 
Absentglare said:
Are you unfamiliar with how much more dishonest President Trump's campaign was?
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I don't know if you know it or not, but Hillary and Bill are the queen and king of liars. I mean, this is the woman who claimed she didn't know about the email server being wiped and said 'What, like with a cloth or something?'. Bill... well it depends on the definition of "is". So far, Trumps at least kept to his campaign promises and has done what he said he was going to do - whether that is a good thing or bad thing I have no clue.
 
Absentglare said:
You don't understand what i'm saying.

She didn't make up fake campaign promises to pander to those states like "i can rewind time and bring back high paying jobs."

She ran the more honest campaign, and she lost for it.
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Lol, I think that has to be the first time the word honest was ever used in a sentence referring to Hillary.
 
Absentglare said:
You don't understand what i'm saying.
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But do you?

Here's a tip, just because someone disagrees doesn't mean they don't understand.

Absentglare said:
She didn't make up fake campaign promises to pander to those states like "i can rewind time and bring back high paying jobs."
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Considering everything he has done so far, Trump has been true to his promises, moreso than any politician I've ever seen.
 
Ockham said:
I don't know if you know it or not, but Hillary and Bill are the queen and king of liars. I mean, this is the woman who claimed she didn't know about the email server being wiped and said 'What, like with a cloth or something?'. Bill... well it depends on the definition of "is". So far, Trumps at least kept to his campaign promises and has done what he said he was going to do - whether that is a good thing or bad thing I have no clue.
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You didn't address the question by diverting to Hillary. I'll ask again:

Absentglare said:
Are you unfamiliar with how much more dishonest President Trump's campaign was?
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Spartacus FPV said:
But do you?

Here's a tip, just because someone disagrees doesn't mean they don't understand.



Considering everything he has done so far, Trump has been true to his promises, moreso than any politician I've ever seen.
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Your mischaracterization of my position suggests a lack of understanding.

I'm not talking about "promises kept" (lol a record on which Hillary can't compete). I'm talking about statements made during the campaign. President Trump was a serial liar, while Hillary Clinton was much more frequently making true statements.
 
jimbo said:
According to the article, this random mad woman is a DNC chair candidate.
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It is clearly possible to be both a random mad woman and a DNC chair candidate.
 
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