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35-Page Report Alleging Trump Was "Cultivated, Supported And Assisted" By Russia

In this case, it is a well-known logical fallacy called "poisoning the well".

The meeting in question was the central encounter to establish the alleged Russia-Trump link. That it is fictitious devastates the entire story. This is over.
 
The meeting in question was the central encounter to establish the alleged Russia-Trump link. That it is fictitious devastates the entire story. This is over.

trump shouldn't lie and mischaracterize his phone calls with Clapper.

This isn't over until the intelligence lackeys for trump say it's over.

I notice you didn't address post #323 .
 
The meeting in question was the central encounter to establish the alleged Russia-Trump link. That it is fictitious devastates the entire story. This is over.

I'm not arguing that Trump has been proven to be linked to Russia.

You are arguing that it is impossible for Trump to be linked with Russia. You are claiming that because "passport", Trump had no link to Russia. Your argument is built on a foundation of fallacies.
 
trump shouldn't lie and mischaracterize his phone calls with Clapper.

This isn't over until the intelligence lackeys for trump say it's over.

I notice you didn't address post #323 .

#323 is a "water is wet" revelation. Clapper was just making the record clear. Trump needs to understand the IC is not his enemy in this matter.
 
I'm not arguing that Trump has been proven to be linked to Russia.

You are arguing that it is impossible for Trump to be linked with Russia. You are claiming that because "passport", Trump had no link to Russia. Your argument is built on a foundation of fallacies.

I have argued no such thing. I have argued this particular batch of nonsense proves nothing.
 
I would support Pence as my president.

If Trump is illegitimate because of the previously explained factors
1- Russian interference in our election to benefit Trump
2- the illegal Comey letter which benefitted Trump
3- the very mechanism which made Trump President- allows his opponent to beat him by 2.8 million votes creating the opposite of a mandate

Why would Pence deserve any support as President?
 
#323 is a "water is wet" revelation. Clapper was just making the record clear. Trump needs to understand the IC is not his enemy in this matter.

In 8 days, anything trump will all be swept under the GOP rug.

Just as it would have been in 1973 if congress would have been GOP.

We know this today, based on what we've seen from the GOP in the last 8 years, at the very least .
 
If Trump is illegitimate because of the previously explained factors
1- Russian interference in our election to benefit Trump
2- the illegal Comey letter which benefitted Trump
3- the very mechanism which made Trump President- allows his opponent to beat him by 2.8 million votes creating the opposite of a mandate

Why would Pence deserve any support as President?

He supports Pence's far-rightist social conservatism .
 
I have argued no such thing. I have argued this particular batch of nonsense proves nothing.

At this point, it's still speculative. We don't truly know whether there is any truth to the matter or not, and perhaps we will never truly know.

But that skepticism denounces drawing conclusion either way.
 
He was hired to find out bad things about Trump, yes. That doesn't make what he did the same as tabloid gossip. Why is that so hard to understand?

That is exactly what makes it fake news and tabloid gossip. There was no basis in truth to the whole article, just like there is no basis to claim that Michelle Obama has had a sex change or that Podesta trafficked young girls for a sex ring.
 
the Russian government has been "cultivating, supporting and assisting" President-elect Donald Trump for at least 5 years and "endorsed by Putin" gained compromising information about him, with the aim of "encouraging splits and divisions in the western alliance."

I can not take credit for that -- I am Jewish. But that means Russia has helped USA.
 
If Trump is illegitimate because of the previously explained factors
1- Russian interference in our election to benefit Trump
2- the illegal Comey letter which benefitted Trump
3- the very mechanism which made Trump President- allows his opponent to beat him by 2.8 million votes creating the opposite of a mandate

Why would Pence deserve any support as President?

1. Someone hacked the DNC. We have yet to see proof, we have allegations.
2. The letter has not be found to be illegal in a court of law, quit exaggerating.
3. Wahh. Quit crying about the election method used for every other President.
 
'As reported moments ago, CNN is leading with a story about a 35-page dossier compiled by a former member of British intelligence, which had been distilled into a 2-page appendix presented to Trump last Friday by the US intel community, and which contains "explosive, but unverified, allegations" that the Russian government has been "cultivating, supporting and assisting" President-elect Donald Trump for at least 5 years and "endorsed by Putin" gained compromising information about him, with the aim of "encouraging splits and divisions in the western alliance."
The memo has allegedly been circulating among elected officials, intelligence agents, and journalists for weeks.'

NOTE: You have to go to the website - via either link - to see the document (I do not know how to post it here).
Here Is The Full 35-Page Report Alleging Trump Was "Cultivated, Supported And Assisted" By Russia | Zero Hedge
https://www.scribd.com/document/336222345/Trump-Intelligence-Allegations#from_embed
Thoughts?
Yes, you are Mr ZERO Hedge.
"Thoughts"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Hedge

Zero Hedge is an English-language financial blog that aggregates news and presents editorial opinions from original and outside sources. The news portion of the site is written by a group of editors who collectively write under the Pseudonym "Tyler Durden" (a character from the novel and film Fight Club).

Critics assert that Zero Hedge's content is Conspiratorial, Anti-establishment, and Economically pessimistic,[3] and has been criticized for presenting Extreme and sometimes pro-Russian views.[1][4][5]
[......]
In 2009, shortly after the blog was founded, news reports identified Daniel Ivandjiiski, a Bulgarian-born former hedge-fund analyst who was Barred from the industry for Insider Trading by FINRA in 2008, as the Founder of the site, and reported that "Durden" was a Pseudonym for Ivandjiisk..."

More in link.
slash/trash
 
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1. Someone hacked the DNC. We have yet to see proof, we have allegations.
2. The letter has not be found to be illegal in a court of law, quit exaggerating.
3. Wahh. Quit crying about the election method used for every other President.

1 - The only people still playing ostrich are hard core right wing Trump loyalists who cannot admit their boy was the choice of Russia and the beneficiary of their help
2 - The action of Comey violated the Hatch act as well as long standing FBI policy to stay out of elections. The announced investigation will give the nation the proof of that.
3 - I bet you would have told a slave to stop whining about being beaten since all the other slaves get the same treatment? Wrong is wrong is wrong - no matter how many times it is done. and the EC is wrong because it violates one person one vote and permits the will of the American people to be thwarted by a small elite.
 
1 - The only people still playing ostrich are hard core right wing Trump loyalists who cannot admit their boy was the choice of Russia and the beneficiary of their help
2 - The action of Comey violated the Hatch act as well as long standing FBI policy to stay out of elections. The announced investigation will give the nation the proof of that.
3 - I bet you would have told a slave to stop whining about being beaten since all the other slaves get the same treatment? Wrong is wrong is wrong - no matter how many times it is done. and the EC is wrong because it violates one person one vote and permits the will of the American people to be thwarted by a small elite.

1. Or people who are sick of depths to which the left have stooped this election.
2. He has not been charged and he went to Lynch before the release the letter. Grasping at straws still.
3. Slavery? You really have gone round the bend.
 
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Yes, you are Mr ZERO Hedge.
"Thoughts"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Hedge

Zero Hedge is an English-language financial blog that aggregates news and presents editorial opinions from original and outside sources. The news portion of the site is written by a group of editors who collectively write under the Pseudonym "Tyler Durden" (a character from the novel and film Fight Club).

Critics assert that Zero Hedge's content is Conspiratorial, Anti-establishment, and Economically pessimistic,[3] and has been criticized for presenting Extreme and sometimes pro-Russian views.[1][4][5]
[......]
In 2009, shortly after the blog was founded, news reports identified Daniel Ivandjiiski, a Bulgarian-born former hedge-fund analyst who was Barred from the industry for Insider Trading by FINRA in 2008, as the Founder of the site, and reported that "Durden" was a Pseudonym for Ivandjiisk..."

More in link.
slash/trash

Shooting the messenger doesn't change the message.
 
1. Or people who are sick of depths to which the left have stooped this election.
2. He has not been charged and he went to Lynch before the release the letter. Grasping at straws still.
3. Slavery? You really have gone round the bend.

see my reply to point one.
see my reply to point two.
a non denial denial.
 
Are you attempting to touch your toes?

I can make an analogy comparing you to a rapist. That doesn't make it clever or even on point to the argument. Your choice of analogy is a pure scumbag move. You have yet to address either of the points made substantially, your crappy opinion isn't worth a red cent.
 
I can make an analogy comparing you to a rapist. That doesn't make it clever or even on point to the argument. Your choice of analogy is a pure scumbag move. You have yet to address either of the points made substantially, your crappy opinion isn't worth a red cent.

Why do you engage him. His debates, discussions and evidence are almost always garbage. Learn man, learn!
 
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