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New Mexico Store Bans ‘Obama & Other Muslims’

I wouldn't say I'm outraged. But I do feel raising awareness of people like this helps us avoid them, and helps the people they hate avoid them. Hiding these things, ignoring them because they embarrass us, or they are inconvenient only gives them the opportunity to go to far while we are not looking.

It shouldn't piss you off, it should worry you. And that worry should lead you to set an example, and with more worried people setting examples progress is made. Racism isn't curable in a person, you can't make someone not hate something. But with more awareness, more accountability, and more dialogue on the subject the next generation won't have as many racists. And the one after even fewer. It's that liberal indoctrination everyones terrified of... :mrgreen:

Here's the deal, this guy has every right to express his opinion in his store. He's doing it in an out of the way place where someone would actually have to make a significant effort just to accidentally run across him. For that, the author of the article, the Huffington Post and anyone who promoted the article through social media decided to make a big deal out of it like his opinion is some kind of social commentary on....what?.. small town America?

Nobody is trying to "hide" this guy. Nobody is trying to ignore the guy. We don't have to do those things because he isn't making an issue of his opinions outside of his own incredibly tiny community. Face it, if you guys have to go to Mayhill, New Mexico to "prove" that racism exists you're pretty much just proving that it's really not much of an issue at all.
 
Here's the deal, this guy has every right to express his opinion in his store. He's doing it in an out of the way place where someone would actually have to make a significant effort just to accidentally run across him. For that, the author of the article, the Huffington Post and anyone who promoted the article through social media decided to make a big deal out of it like his opinion is some kind of social commentary on....what?.. small town America?

Nobody is trying to "hide" this guy. Nobody is trying to ignore the guy. We don't have to do those things because he isn't making an issue of his opinions outside of his own incredibly tiny community. Face it, if you guys have to go to Mayhill, New Mexico to "prove" that racism exists you're pretty much just proving that it's really not much of an issue at all.

You are trying to ignore the guy, as evidenced by the post I am quoting and your first post in the thread. And nobody has to go to Mayhill, NM to prove racism exists, in this case Mayhill came to us. I can give you plenty of examples from any walk of life. Nor am I advocating doing anything to this fellow aside from not bringing him business. He may have every right to do whatever it is that he's doing, doesn't make what he's doing socially acceptable. And the same right that lets him do that, let's me point out that he's doing it. You would criticize us, for exercising the same rights he is? Meaning you're ok with calling out unacceptable behavior, you just have a different definition of what unacceptable is.
 
Here's the deal, this guy has every right to express his opinion in his store. He's doing it in an out of the way place where someone would actually have to make a significant effort just to accidentally run across him. For that, the author of the article, the Huffington Post and anyone who promoted the article through social media decided to make a big deal out of it like his opinion is some kind of social commentary on....what?.. small town America?

Nobody is trying to "hide" this guy. Nobody is trying to ignore the guy. We don't have to do those things because he isn't making an issue of his opinions outside of his own incredibly tiny community. Face it, if you guys have to go to Mayhill, New Mexico to "prove" that racism exists you're pretty much just proving that it's really not much of an issue at all.

It's HuffPo, what do you expect. He's hunting for racism in fly-over country, to make a point.
 
"Kill Obama"?? How the hell has this store not been IMMEDIATELY shut down??

It doesn't say "Kill Obama", it says "Kill Obamacare". Read the OP.
 
It doesn't say "Kill Obama", it says "Kill Obamacare". Read the OP.

Don't start expecting the truth, it usually destroys the narrative.
 
If you have ever been to Mayhill NM, it would make a bit more sense. The population is most anarchist types who have their opinions and don't appreciate having them challenged. I can't imagine many, if any, Muslims going through there, much less stopping to shop, but regardless, the people are essentially harmless. They won't get in your face if you don't get in theirs and the usual person encountering them will find them funny, friendly, helpful, and willing to give you the shirt off their back if you need it.

I don't condone the signs, some of which are offensive to me, and I would personally find that culture pretty intellectually stifling and wouldn't want to live there--it is beautiful country though--but it really isn't as bad as the Huffington Post is portraying it.

We've been through Mayhill...just north of Weed NM.
 
You are trying to ignore the guy, as evidenced by the post I am quoting and your first post in the thread. And nobody has to go to Mayhill, NM to prove racism exists, in this case Mayhill came to us. I can give you plenty of examples from any walk of life. Nor am I advocating doing anything to this fellow aside from not bringing him business. He may have every right to do whatever it is that he's doing, doesn't make what he's doing socially acceptable. And the same right that lets him do that, let's me point out that he's doing it. You would criticize us, for exercising the same rights he is? Meaning you're ok with calling out unacceptable behavior, you just have a different definition of what unacceptable is.

:doh

The reason "Mayhill came to you" is because some jackass from HuffPo decided to make a story out of nothing.

Here's the other thing, just because what the guy is doing isn't socially acceptable in downtown Los Angeles doesn't and shouldn't mean that it's socially unacceptable in Mayhill.
 
:doh

The reason "Mayhill came to you" is because some jackass from HuffPo decided to make a story out of nothing.

Here's the other thing, just because what the guy is doing isn't socially acceptable in downtown Los Angeles doesn't and shouldn't mean that it's socially unacceptable in Mayhill.

Your second point, you would think that falls under "diversity". Race baiters like the Huff Post love diversity. WTF?
 
He sounds mentally disturbed. The SS should be on his doorstep. We need to nip this kind of **** in the bud.

Too bad your boy Tweeto incited much of this.
 
We've been through Mayhill...just north of Weed NM.
Right except that Weed is off the main grid. Mayhill is on the main highway that cuts through and over the Sacramento Mountains about halfway between Artesia and Alamogordo. Lots of folks pass through Mayhill and might never notice as it really is just a wide spot in the road. Nobody goes to Weed though that doesn't intend to go to Weed. :)
 
Your second point, you would think that falls under "diversity". Race baiters like the Huff Post love diversity. WTF?

They only love their kind of liberal-approved diversity. Anything that falls outside of that is awful.
 
"Kill Obama"?? How the hell has this store not been IMMEDIATELY shut down??

Who would shut it down? It can't be government because of the first amendment. It seems likely to me that the owner will put himself out of business in time.
 
Who would shut it down? It can't be government because of the first amendment. It seems likely to me that the owner will put himself out of business in time.

Not in that town.
 
Your second point, you would think that falls under "diversity". Race baiters like the Huff Post love diversity. WTF?

Ugh, don't even get me started on that crap. The whole idea that some group which encompasses 30 different ethnic, racial and gender demographics but all think the same is "diverse" but everyone who disagrees with them is homophobic, xenophobic, misogynist, racist, whatever else-a-phobic is tiresome at best.
 
Right except that Weed is off the main grid. Mayhill is on the main highway that cuts through and over the Sacramento Mountains about halfway between Artesia and Alamogordo. Lots of folks pass through Mayhill and might never notice as it really is just a wide spot in the road. Nobody goes to Weed though that doesn't intend to go to Weed. :)

Been to Sunspot a couple of times....interesting place.
 
It actually sounds more like a case of promoting violence rather than making "threats" of violence.

Hi Maggie :2wave: I am in no way endorsing the actions of this store owner; but:

Stop. Stop, stop, stop. Because if you were to proceed, you might wind up saying something like this:

President Obama appears to have been quite adept at bringing out the absolute worst in so many Americans, including his own supporters as well as his detractors such as this fellow.

Far too many of President Obama's supporters project the belief that his Administration condones and justifies their violent racial protests involving vandalism, looting, assaults and even murder.

It seems that many of these so-called "protests" went uninterrupted by police departments that were ordered to stand down as violence and destruction exploded around them.

And Obama's detractors are reacting to 8 years of misguided concern for the rights of illegal aliens, refugees and terrorists while defending the good image of Islam; rather than the safety and welfare of American citizens.

The entirety of the Obama Presidency has been one big set back for race relations in America. I for one have certainly never seen it this bad in my 29 years of life.

That response deserves a nomination for Deflection Of The Year 2017. And we're only four days in!
 
It doesn't say "Kill Obama", it says "Kill Obamacare". Read the OP.

Don't start expecting the truth, it usually destroys the narrative.

If you actually clicked on the link, then you would clearly see the photo in question.

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I will leave it up to the authorities, not the laypeople, to decide if the tiny-font "care" text protects that sign under the First Amendment. If it does, well I hope that plenty of liberals use their free speech rights against Trump. :)
 
If you actually clicked on the link, then you would clearly see the photo in question.

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I will leave it up to the authorities, not the laypeople, to decide if the tiny-font "care" text protects that sign under the First Amendment. If it does, well I hope that plenty of liberals use their free speech rights against Trump. :)

Under which, it says care. Are you blind?
 
:doh

The reason "Mayhill came to you" is because some jackass from HuffPo decided to make a story out of nothing.

Here's the other thing, just because what the guy is doing isn't socially acceptable in downtown Los Angeles doesn't and shouldn't mean that it's socially unacceptable in Mayhill.

You have to remember the Leftists always think in national terms. The want a power federal govt that could actually come in a close that store, and put the owner on trial for hate crimes. It's all about huge central power to force their agenda on all.
 
This store owner seems to be violating federal public accommodations law. Congress's authority for that law was its power to regulate interstate commerce. Some of us have thought about that and decided that is a misuse of the Commerce Clause. The fact privately owned and operated entities accommodate the public does not change the fact their owners and operators are private persons.

Almost nothing in the Constitution prohibits discrimination by private persons, and the three amendments that have been pressed into service over the years in mostly unsuccessful attempts to do that--the 13th, 14th, and 15th--obviously were aimed at discrimination by race. It's a tossup as to which would be a greater stretch--using one of those amendments as authority for federal action to prohibit private religious discrimination, or using the Commerce Clause. Any state has inherent power as a sovereign to prohibit discrimination in public accommodations based on religion, but I do not think the Commerce Clause (or anything else in the Constitution) is a legitimate basis for a federal law prohibiting it.
 
Under which, it says care. Are you blind?

You are not listening. Your claim is not for the layperson to formally decide. When a potential threat is made against the life of a political figure, particularly the president, the matter is referred to the appropriate authorities, whom typically are federal. We neither have the power nor the right to directly vote on such a thing.

So, if you want to make the case that that "Kill Obama (care)" sign is not even an implied threat of violence, feel free to join the defense team if this guy gets tried for inciting violence. :)
 
You are not listening. Your claim is not for the layperson to formally decide. When a potential threat is made against the life of a political figure, particularly the president, the matter is referred to the appropriate authorities, whom typically are federal. We neither have the power nor the right to directly vote on such a thing.

So, if you want to make the case that that "Kill Obama (care)" sign is not even an implied threat of violence, feel free to join the defense team if this guy gets tried for inciting violence. :)

You let us know when the authorities show up, won't you? Because clearly, this has been going on a long time and nobody has shown up yet.

But you keep hoping.
 
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