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White cop tackles black mom after she called police for help[W:295]

Mac77 said:
Thank the liberal race baiters who decided to make this story an anti whire issue starting with the headline
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So when commenting on the story, you can't focus on the story and have to make a lot of BS racial stereotypes to defend this asshole cop? Don't see why that was necessary.
 
Mac77 said:
i agree.

The daughter knew her mother was about to step in it - outstanding warrents and all - but she was too late
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What did the woman DO to warrant her arrest? She committed no crime. She was "too late" because she recognized an asshole cop for what he was and could guess what that jack booted thug would do, which was arrest her for nothing.

And I'd still like for you to cite the "crime" of cussing at a cop or being angry because the cop was treating the victim's family here like dirt.
 
jonny5 said:
Resisting the police and complaining about it all the time is just making it worse. Black people need to run for office, vote for black people, join the police force, and stop committing crimes.
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What do you mean by resisting the police?

Are you talking about this case or in general?
 
Mason66 said:
If you called the police for, let's say, a break in at your house and you happened to have left the front door unlocked. Would you be upset if the officer you called asked you why you left the door unlocked, implying it was your fault the house was burglarized?

This officer justified the grabbing of her son by the neighbor for littering. Would that sit right with you if that happened to you child?
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Precisely. How many people would have destroyed the guy for touching their kid? Would a jury convict someone over that?


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Mason66 said:
I doubt the choking happened either. Was there anything in the article about that?

If the cop came to your house and basically approved of the neighbors actions in grabbing your child, would you get upset with him, or would you accept his wrong headed assessment of the situation?
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That's not really the question - you're putting the burden on the family here and not the cop whose damn job it is to defuse these situations without making THREE crap arrests. Last I checked we are as free citizens allowed to disagree with cops without getting thrown in jail. We're not supposed to be a police state.

You already said you would go after the neighbor without calling the police, so how would you react when the officer blames your parenting skills and your child for the incident?
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If you're asserting that the only acceptable option there is to meekly demur to an asshole cop, I don't think that's a reasonable expectation. What we accept if that's the case is to normalize cops stepping WAY outside their authority and then demand that we behave as if we're not in fact free people who can disagree with the police, "piss them off" in fact, without being brought up on charges.
 
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JasperL said:
What did the woman DO to warrant her arrest? She committed no crime. She was "too late" because she recognized an asshole cop for what he was and could guess what that jack booted thug would do, which was arrest her for nothing.

And I'd still like for you to cite the "crime" of cussing at a cop or being angry because the cop was treating the victim's family here like dirt.
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At the very least she now has documentation to file a claim with IA against the cop.

This should not have gone this far.

I would have asked my daughter to call 911 again asking for this officers superior to be dispatched.

Maybe he/she would have known the law and how to act with the public.
 
JasperL said:
That's not really the question - you're putting the burden on the family here and not the cop whose damn job it is to defuse these situations without making THREE crap arrests. Last I checked we are as free citizens allowed to disagree with cops without getting thrown in jail. We're not supposed to be a police state.



If you're asserting that the only acceptable option there is to meekly demur to an asshole cop, I don't think that's a reasonable expectation.
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I was asking the other poster what he would have done in a similar situation.

I am not sure where you get the idea I am defending the officer.

I have a short fuse for stupidity, especially with police officers.

If he wasn't willing to do his job, then he should find another one.

He was called out on an assault and he created a whole new situation ignoring the one he was called for.

He needs more training at the very least.
 
Mason66 said:
If you called the police for, let's say, a break in at your house and you happened to have left the front door unlocked. Would you be upset if the officer you called asked you why you left the door unlocked, implying it was your fault the house was burglarized?

This officer justified the grabbing of her son by the neighbor for littering. Would that sit right with you if that happened to you child?
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I still would not settle it by cursing out the cop and resisting arrest where I can explain my outstanding warrents after being taken to the police station

So far we only have the video made by the black woman which may or may not tell the whole story

But from all we know so far all three persons involved made mistakes



Nor would I call david duke NAWP for moral support afterward
 
Mac77 said:
Confessed to an assault?

I missed that and I really doubt if the man said he choked the kid

Too bab we dont have a transcript because I would like to sort out what happened
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why do you doubt it? because he's a white guy?
 
jonny5 said:
Resisting the police and complaining about it all the time is just making it worse. Black people need to run for office, vote for black people, join the police force, and stop committing crimes.
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You need to be black, live black and be treated like a black person to know what black people need to do. One thing black people don't need is white people telling them what black people need to do.

Black people do run for office. Black people do become police. It's ironic that you say black people need to stop committing crimes. Here we are in a thread discussing the apparent unlawful arrest of a black woman who was defending her son by legally calling the police!
 
JasperL said:
So when commenting on the story, you can't focus on the story and have to make a lot of BS racial stereotypes to defend this asshole cop? Don't see why that was necessary.
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The entire theme of the story as presented in the national lib media is anti white race baiting

The cop made no comments about race but the black family did

Meaning that if race was a motivating factor it was the black family who were driven by prejudice not the cop
 
JasperL said:
Cursing a cop is a crime? Why wasn't she charged with this "crime"?
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Cursing a cop is not a criminal offense per se

But there are many offenses that cursing the cop can lead to such as disorderly conduct to name just one that are a crime
 
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Mason66 said:
I doubt the choking happened either. Was there anything in the article about that?

If the cop came to your house and basically approved of the neighbors actions in grabbing your child, would you get upset with him, or would you accept his wrong headed assessment of the situation?

You already said you would go after the neighbor without calling the police, so how would you react when the officer blames your parenting skills and your child for the incident?
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In that case I would take it up the chain of command and make damn sure I didnt curse at them too
 
HenryChinaski said:
why do you doubt it? because he's a white guy?
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Because hes an adult

If it were a black neighbor who was calm had a reasonable story to tell I would not assume the worst about him either
 
Mac77 said:
Then why call 911 at all if this black woman is tjat paranoid of the police?
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Because she's damned if she does and damned if she doesn't. Because she was trying to do the right thing. Because she wanted it on record in the event that it happened again. Because the alternatives would have been to just walk away and ignore the abuse of her child or confront and threaten the small minded twit who manhandled her son which most assuredly would have landed her in jail. Because she doesn't believe that all cops are bad even though she might have been reluctant to call. Because she knew that she was in the right and she knew that she would not resort to violence or do anything that would get her arrested. Because she never dreamed that the cop would himself escalate the situation.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Because she's damned if she does and damned if she doesn't. Because she was trying to do the right thing.

Because she wanted it on record in the event that it happened again.

Because the alternatives would have been to just walk away and ignore the abuse of her child or confront and threaten the small minded twit who manhandled her son which most assuredly would have landed her in jail. Because she doesn't believe that all cops are bad even though she might have been reluctant to call. Because she knew that she was in the right and she knew that she would not resort to violence or do anything that would get her arrested. Because she never dreamed that the cop would himself escalate the situation.
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She certainly accomplished that

But you seem to be getting carried away yourself when you call the white neighbor a small-minded twitt who "manhandled" a small child

We dont know exactly what occured before the cop arrived

And she does not have to be damned if she does

Black people have to learn the limits of their behaviour when dealing with the police

There is a right way and a wrong way to deal with adversity
 
Yep...seems to me a clear case of a jerk cop behaving badly. Shouldnt be a cop and the city is probably going to have to open up its checkbook. Dumbass.
 
I am interested to see, who here has the same opinion concerning a similar incident.


Facts of the case: cop responded and was told he was not needed. Turned off body cam, spotted a woman who he thought had warrants. Attempted to arrest her, she asked for the warrant and resisted, he punches her and arrests her. Finds out she had resolved all her previous warrants. Charges her with resisting and assault on an officer. Funny, aside from 11bravo didn't see much support for the police action in the thread on the subject. I wonder why.

A little different from this case in that the person who called the police was the one assaulted for giving an officer, not taking her seriously, attitude. Which offended the officer, how dare a mere citizen question his authority, he's a cop he's special. We all have to listen to him and think like he does or pay for our insubordination. #Bluelife>citizens'life
 
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Mac77 said:
She certainly accomplished that

But you seem to be getting carried away yourself when you call the white neighbor a small-minded twitt who "manhandled" a small child

We dont know exactly what occured before the cop arrived

And she does not have to be damned if she does

Black people have to learn the limits of their behaviour when dealing with the police

There is a right way and a wrong way to deal with adversity
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Mac77 said:
The entire theme of the story as presented in the national lib media is anti white race baiting

The cop made no comments about race but the black family did

Meaning that if race was a motivating factor it was the black family who were driven by prejudice not the cop
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So what does any of that have to do with this particular situation? You've been blaming the "blacks" and rationalizing incompetence and an abuse of power by this cop.
 
Grim17 said:
You are both missing the point... This was not about an individual officer. This is supposed to prove how racist white police officers in America are, and how they hate black people so much, they target them for violence.

Geez... Get with the program.
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On the other hand, it obviously doesn't prove that all cops are wonderful people.
 
Mac77 said:
Black people have to learn the limits of their behaviour when dealing with the police
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Maybe they just need to be armed to protect themselves from tyranny.
 
JasperL said:
So what does any of that have to do with this particular situation? You've been blaming the "blacks" and rationalizing incompetence and an abuse of power by this cop.
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I have been playing by the rules established by the liberal media that wrote the anti white story and the headline by pointing out why black people get into so much trouble with the police
 
Mac77 said:
Cursing a cop is not a criminal offense per se

But there are many offenses that cursing the cop can lead to such as disorderly conduct to name just one that are a crime
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Of course it's not a crime - we can be mad at police, disagree, curse them. It's part of being a free people. Which is why there was no crime for him to charge her with and the whole thing terribly mishandled.

And obviously cursing CAN and does like here "lead to" imaginary crimes when none previously existed, such as "disorderly conduct" or as in this case "resisting arrest." That's why it's so amazing seeing you defend this guy. It's just not acceptable in any free society for a cop to say, roughly, 'Piss me off and you're going to jail.'
 
rocket88 said:
Maybe they just need to be armed to protect themselves from tyranny.
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You mean like mudering cops all over America including 5 in Dallas?
 
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