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Backing far-right Swede, Trump proxy boycotts top Israeli official[W:31]

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Dana had his panties in a wad over Bush, but at least Bush had been Prez for a while. Trump hasn't even been sworn in and he's already bitching and complaining.

For a short time, you were back on topic, and things were fine. I have no problem if you disagree with me and show that disagreement. After all, this is a political debate forum. But now comes the baiting and trolling again. Let me put this to you directly. If, by personally attacking and trolling me, you think you can get me to lose my temper and post something you can report, then I hate to disappoint you, but I'm not taking the bait. I wasn't born yesterday, and what you are doing is pretty transparent.
 
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Dana had his panties in a wad over Bush, but at least Bush had been Prez for a while. Trump hasn't even been sworn in and he's already bitching and complaining.

How many Presidents should we have at one time sending several theatres in the world mixed messages ?
 
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Much to do about nothing.

Trump respects BiBi, and things will be just fine.

Since Bibi directly campaigned for Romney 4 years ago .
 
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How many Presidents should we have at one time sending several theatres in the world mixed messages ?

Trump is clearly overshadowing obama on the international stage

Speaking of Israel the UN postponed a vote condemning Jewish settlements on the West Bank after trump - not obama - said the US should vote no on the measure

Two presidents at a time indeed

It looks like we have only one and it isnt Obama
 
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Trump is clearly overshadowing obama on the international stage

Speaking of Israel the UN postponed a vote condemning Jewish settlements on the West Bank after trump - not obama - said the US should vote no on the measure

Two presidents at a time indeed

It looks like we have only one and it isnt Obama

In regard to the West Bank, Israel made a horrible mistake that's had consequences. Israel was invaded by it's neighbors, but ended up winning the war. They should have just annexed the West Bank and Golan Heights, and made it part of Israel. They were invaded, they won, and the land they took in the war belongs to them. So annex it. They didn't, and that came back to bite them right in the ass. As for the Palestinians, they were part of the invasion of Israel, and as far as I'm concerned, they forfeited their right to demand a 2 state solution.
 
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The Trump Team's fraternization with neo-Nazi organizations should, at the very least, warrant a bipartisan or independent scholarly investigation - Mike Flynn's association with an Austrian party founded by Nazis, and now this...

...this is like Boys from Brazil type ****. Americans should be infuriated.
 
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The Trump Team's fraternization with neo-Nazi organizations should, at the very least, warrant a bipartisan or independent scholarly investigation - Mike Flynn's association with an Austrian party founded by Nazis, and now this...

...this is like Boys from Brazil type ****. Americans should be infuriated.

Although, some members of Trump's team have connections to the alt-right, including Nazi organizations, Hitler cannot be invoked here. Classical Fascism is corporate control of the government. You should think Benito Mussolini here. This applies to our government during both Republican and Democratic administrations. However, unlike Mussolini, corporations do not directly run the government, but instead buy the politicians who run the government, who then do their bidding. So you should think of a Trump administration not as Hitler, but a furtherance of the classical Fascist element that has already existed for some time.

It gets complicated from here. Although Mussolini and Hitler became allies, Mussolini didn't kill 6 million Jews, and actually thought of his government as a benevolent Fascism, which would benefit his people. There are people right here in the United States who see a benevolent Fascism as preferable to what currently exists, and one attempt to overthrow the government and install a Fascist dictatorship was already contemplated, although there is dispute as to whether or not the machinery was in place to pull it off. This was during the Roosevelt Administration, Major General Smedley Butler made allegations that a military takeover and the installation of a Fascist dictatorship was in the process of being implemented. Although no proof of actual implementation of the plot was ever presented, there was proof that the idea had been hatched to do it. How far along the idea had gone we will never know, although it probably never got beyond a few corporate persons expressing the idea. Of course, today, there would be no need to overthrow the government in order to make America a Fascist nation. Not as long as corporations can buy our politicians. The result is the same. Corporate control of the government, ie, Fascism. There are reputable people of good will, who honestly believe that a benevolent Fascism would be a healthy thing for America. Run the government like a corporation, and we will be a stronger, more viable nation. However, there is one problem with that line of thinking. Our Constitution, as we know it, wouldn't be worth the paper it is written on. And that is the danger. You should be worried about a Trump administration bringing something like this to fruition, but you should have been afraid many years ago when other Republican, and yes, Democratic administrations were also doing their part to make America a Fascist nation. Is there a problem with the 2 party system? You bet your ass there is. It's really one party, a party of puppets, with corporations pulling all the strings. Everything you see with the 2 parties fighting each other is just smoke and mirrors. You have been bought, and the price was cheap.
 
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We're not going to have to listen to you spread bull****, and whine about Trump (the way you did Bush) for the next four years are we?

yes, you are going to spend the next four years hearing about all sorts of awful **** regarding Trump. That's because Trump is an awful **** who does awful ****. Why do you find this surprising?
 
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Although, some members of Trump's team have connections to the alt-right, including Nazi organizations, Hitler cannot be invoked here. Classical Fascism is corporate control of the government. You should think Benito Mussolini here. This applies to our government during both Republican and Democratic administrations. However, unlike Mussolini, corporations do not directly run the government, but instead buy the politicians who run the government, who then do their bidding. So you should think of a Trump administration not as Hitler, but a furtherance of the classical Fascist element that has already existed for some time.

It gets complicated from here. Although Mussolini and Hitler became allies, Mussolini didn't kill 6 million Jews, and actually thought of his government as a benevolent Fascism, which would benefit his people. There are people right here in the United States who see a benevolent Fascism as preferable to what currently exists, and one attempt to overthrow the government and install a Fascist dictatorship was already contemplated, although there is dispute as to whether or not the machinery was in place to pull it off. This was during the Roosevelt Administration, Major General Smedley Butler made allegations that a military takeover and the installation of a Fascist dictatorship was in the process of being implemented. Although no proof of actual implementation of the plot was ever presented, there was proof that the idea had been hatched to do it. How far along the idea had gone we will never know, although it probably never got beyond a few corporate persons expressing the idea. Of course, today, there would be no need to overthrow the government in order to make America a Fascist nation. Not as long as corporations can buy our politicians. The result is the same. Corporate control of the government, ie, Fascism. There are reputable people of good will, who honestly believe that a benevolent Fascism would be a healthy thing for America. Run the government like a corporation, and we will be a stronger, more viable nation. However, there is one problem with that line of thinking. Our Constitution, as we know it, wouldn't be worth the paper it is written on. And that is the danger. You should be worried about a Trump administration bringing something like this to fruition, but you should have been afraid many years ago when other Republican, and yes, Democratic administrations were also doing their part to make America a Fascist nation. Is there a problem with the 2 party system? You bet your ass there is. It's really one party, a party of puppets, with corporations pulling all the strings. Everything you see with the 2 parties fighting each other is just smoke and mirrors. You have been bought, and the price was cheap.

I can't disagree with any of that.

I've been saying something very similar for years. But everytime I do, everyone just laughs...

...and laughs.

...and laughs.

And...
 
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How many leftwingers are bitching about Obama for 8 years? 0

Dude, enjoy the sweet sound of the whining and wailing and gnashing of teeth for the next 8 years.
 
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LOL, quite a few actually. But no, not the neon spewed by the right towards Obama. Between the birthers, the Hussein Obama'ers, the Michelle is so ugly and fat'ers, the Bengazi witch hunters, let alone the **** head GOP elected officials who fought Obama on EVERYTHING, etc, etc, etc, etc.... you have some nerve.

I wouldn't want that nerve in a tooth.
 
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How many Presidents should we have at one time sending several theatres in the world mixed messages ?
You should probably only have one. Obama is done so that leaves Trump. ;)

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Re: Backing far-right Swede, Trump proxy boycotts top Israeli official

The Trump Team's fraternization with neo-Nazi organizations should, at the very least, warrant a bipartisan or independent scholarly investigation - Mike Flynn's association with an Austrian party founded by Nazis, and now this...

...this is like Boys from Brazil type ****. Americans should be infuriated.

We are fighting a very Nazi like enemy. Keep that in mind.
 
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