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Here’s the public evidence russia hacked the dnc — it’s not enough

What exactly influenced their votes...the alleged 'hacking' (a phishing email is not a 'hack' and you have to be a total ****ing moron to phall for it these days) or the content of the email that exposed the DNC?


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Voters were unfairly influence by the orchestrated release of private e-mail combined with fake news pasted all over facebook that was designed to discredit Hillary. You would need to be a moron to not see how that disadvantaged Clinton. And all the Republican dirt the hackers had was kept secret as long as Trump played ball with Putin. Putin still has plenty on Trump that he will use to his advantage in any "negotiations" made. Congrats on selling out this country to a murderous dictator of a country that has been our enemy for generations. What could go wrong with that, right?
 
The "exposure" (such as it was) would not have happened without the illegal theft and dissemination of the e-mails.

Sure. And as I said back then...investigate away. Let the chips fall where they may. However...the exposure is what is damning. It wasn't THAT the DNC was exposed, it is WHAT was exposed.


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Voters were unfairly influence by the orchestrated release of private e-mail combined with fake news pasted all over facebook that was designed to discredit Hillary. You would need to be a moron to not see how that disadvantaged Clinton. And all the Republican dirt the hackers had was kept secret as long as Trump played ball with Putin. Putin still has plenty on Trump that he will use to his advantage in any "negotiations" made. Congrats on selling out this country to a murderous dictator of a country that has been our enemy for generations. What could go wrong with that, right?

See...now you took a basic question and twisted and manipulated a response into everything BUT the answer to the question. You are doing now what the rats did then. "Can you comment on your email that shows you cheated?" The Russians! "Can you comment on the emails that showed you conspired against the Sanders campaign?" The Russians!!! "Can you comment on the emails showing collision between the media and the rat party." The Russians! The Russians! What part of our answer don't you understand? "Well...the part where you are refusing to address the actual disclosures." Look...me just say it again...the Russians!!!!!


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This is entirely different. Hillary Clinton is the most important person in America and she could not possibly have lost the election without some serious shenanigans going on. Sure, she was under investigation by the FBI for having a private server in her basement and for using that server to conduct state business. Sure, she is the epitome of an "insider" candidate when the electorate really, really wanted an "outsider". Sure, she presided over a foreign policy that has left the Middle East in flames and spurred a massive international refugee crisis. Of course she was tied at the hip to Wall Street. Obviously nobody trusts her as far as they can throw her and she's likely the most corrupt candidate we have ever had run for president. Yeah, her own party was so concerned about her image that they put together an hour long documentary designed to humanize her before she accepted the nomination of her party. Yeah, she totally blew off the parts of the country that had been most damaged by the Obama administration and took them for granted. I mean, sure, those are problems but they're nothing compared to the fact that somebody hacked John Podesta's email and dribbled out a ton of nothingburgers during the campaign.

The best part is that Podesta was fished, not hacked, but the CIA isn't honest enough to admit the difference.
 
Sure. And as I said back then...investigate away. Let the chips fall where they may. However...the exposure is what is damning. It wasn't THAT the DNC was exposed, it is WHAT was exposed.


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The amount of damage done to Clinton is mostly irrelevant now as the election is over. No matter what happens... no matter what we find out about the election... she is not going to see the oval office, as the EC will not put her there on Monday.

I'm interested in an audit to see where any foreign agent influences or other shenanigans made a difference... and I also would like to know if there was any collaboration with Americans. If there were any US citizens involved, I want to see them prosecuted to the fullest extent of our laws. Most of all, I'd like to see the integrity of the electoral process ensured. To turn our heads away from these issues for partisan reasons is bad for the nation.
 
The amount of damage done to Clinton is mostly irrelevant now as the election is over. No matter what happens... no matter what we find out about the election... she is not going to see the oval office, as the EC will not put her there on Monday.

I'm interested in an audit to see where any foreign agent influences or other shenanigans made a difference... and I also would like to know if there was any collaboration with Americans. If there were any US citizens involved, I want to see them prosecuted to the fullest extent of our laws. Most of all, I'd like to see the integrity of the electoral process ensured. To turn our heads away from these issues for partisan reasons is bad for the nation.
Im in full agreement.

Be honest...its pretty pathetic for a bunch of people that shrugged off collusion by the DNC to **** over Bernie Sanders and his supporters and to cheat and collude with the media during the presidential election to now whine about how 'unfairly' Clinton was treated. Right? I mean...that is by definition pathetic.
 
Voters were unfairly influence by the orchestrated release of private e-mail combined with fake news pasted all over facebook that was designed to discredit Hillary. You would need to be a moron to not see how that disadvantaged Clinton. And all the Republican dirt the hackers had was kept secret as long as Trump played ball with Putin. Putin still has plenty on Trump that he will use to his advantage in any "negotiations" made. Congrats on selling out this country to a murderous dictator of a country that has been our enemy for generations. What could go wrong with that, right?

Those emails weren't fake. Not once has anyone denied the authenticity of what was in any of those emails.
 
Voters were unfairly influence by the orchestrated release of private e-mail combined with fake news pasted all over facebook that was designed to discredit Hillary. You would need to be a moron to not see how that disadvantaged Clinton. And all the Republican dirt the hackers had was kept secret as long as Trump played ball with Putin. Putin still has plenty on Trump that he will use to his advantage in any "negotiations" made. Congrats on selling out this country to a murderous dictator of a country that has been our enemy for generations. What could go wrong with that, right?
Hey...as it fair for the DNC to collude with the Clinton campaign against Bernie Sanders? as it fair for the DNC to **** over millions of voters? Was it 'fair' for the DNC to cheat during elections and to have DNC plants giving them information on the debates? Was it fair for the DNC and media to collude with stories and message in an attempt to sway the vote in favor Clinton?

You are being ridiculous. Your comments should serve to embarrass the **** out of yourself. Sadly...they wont.
 
Im in full agreement.

Be honest...its pretty pathetic for a bunch of people that shrugged off collusion by the DNC to **** over Bernie Sanders and his supporters and to cheat and collude with the media during the presidential election to now whine about how 'unfairly' Clinton was treated. Right? I mean...that is by definition pathetic.

If Trump won mainly through media collusion I would understand that you could view any whining about that as hypocrisy. But I don't think too many Clinton voters would identify that as a major issue in this election. It seems like comparing apples to oranges to me.
 
If Trump won mainly through media collusion I would understand that you could view any whining about that as hypocrisy. But I don't think too many Clinton voters would identify that as a major issue in this election. It seems like comparing apples to oranges to me.
The media collusion was almost entirely a product of the rat party and the media. For ANYONE to claim the media was colluding to H E L P Trump...that would be perhaps THE single most laughable suggestion I have ever seen posted on this or any other website.
 
The media collusion was almost entirely a product of the rat party and the media. For ANYONE to claim the media was colluding to H E L P Trump...that would be perhaps THE single most laughable suggestion I have ever seen posted on this or any other website.

I think Trump got a good deal with the media during the primaries. They mostly just ran with a couple of his insults against his competitors. The coverage definitely aided in his quest to expand and energize his base.

I think there were plenty of media outlets that were negative in their coverage of both candidates during the general election. I think each side lived in their own media bubbles.
 
I think Trump got a good deal with the media during the primaries. They mostly just ran with a couple of his insults against his competitors. The coverage definitely aided in his quest to expand and energize his base.

I think there were plenty of media outlets that were negative in their coverage of both candidates during the general election. I think each side lived in their own media bubbles.
Trump got 24/7 negative coverage by all the networks, MSNBC and CNN. The only thing the media didnt bank on is that the public DESPISES the media and certainly, the networks, MSNBC, and CNN. There was really barely any coverage of the content of the actual emails that were leaked.
 
Trump got 24/7 negative coverage by all the networks, MSNBC and CNN. The only thing the media didnt bank on is that the public DESPISES the media and certainly, the networks, MSNBC, and CNN. There was really barely any coverage of the content of the actual emails that were leaked.

It all depends where you were looking.
 
Trump got 24/7 negative coverage by all the networks, MSNBC and CNN. The only thing the media didnt bank on is that the public DESPISES the media and certainly, the networks, MSNBC, and CNN. There was really barely any coverage of the content of the actual emails that were leaked.

Actually a lot the public doesn't watch cable news at all. They get their "news" from Facebook and that was another way Putin boosted Trumps numbers., by saturating social media with fake news about Hillary. There also was inordinately heavy coverage of the DNC and Podesta email leaks and of course Comey's antics were also HUGE as they played into the fake news stories about Clinton's "impending indictments".

Facebook is by far the largest social networking site, reaching 67% of U.S. adults. The two-thirds of Facebook users who get news there, then, amount to 44% of the general population.
News Use Across Social Media Platforms 2016 | Pew Research Center
 
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Actually a lot the public doesn't watch cable news at all. They get their "news" from Facebook and that was another way Putin boosted Trumps numbers., by saturating social media with fake news about Hillary. There also was inordinately heavy coverage of the DNC and Podesta email leaks and of course Comey's antics were also HUGE as they played into the fake news stories about Clinton's "impending indictments".


News Use Across Social Media Platforms 2016 | Pew Research Center
There was nothing 'fake' about the content of the emails that were released. Lord knows y'all want to try to confuse the facts...because the facts are very damning.
 
There was nothing 'fake' about the content of the emails that were released. Lord knows y'all want to try to confuse the facts...because the facts are very damning.

LOL Besides the hacked e-mails, "Fake" news was also used extensively by the Russians to throw the election to Trump. You are the one who is confused because you probably believed all those made up horror stories about Hillary. Trumpster's are the biggest suckers around. They believe anything that makes Trump look good and nothing that makes him look bad. It is like a disease.
Russia’s increasingly sophisticated propaganda machinery — including thousands of botnets, teams of paid human “trolls,” and networks of websites and social-media accounts — echoed and amplified right-wing sites across the Internet as they portrayed Clinton as a criminal hiding potentially fatal health problems and preparing to hand control of the nation to a shadowy cabal of global financiers. The effort also sought to heighten the appearance of international tensions and promote fear of looming hostilities with nuclear-armed Russia.

Two teams of independent researchers found that the Russians exploited American-made technology platforms to attack U.S. democracy at a particularly vulnerable moment, as an insurgent candidate harnessed a wide range of grievances to claim the White House. The sophistication of the Russian tactics may complicate efforts by Facebook and Google to crack down on “fake news,” as they have vowed to do after widespread complaints about the problem.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/russian-propaganda-effort-helped-spread-fake-news-during-election-experts-say/2016/11/24/793903b6-8a40-4ca9-b712-716af66098fe_story.html?utm_term=.a0c0a8b34992
 
LOL Besides the hacked e-mails, "Fake" news was also used extensively by the Russians to throw the election to Trump. You are the one who is confused because you probably believed all those made up horror stories about Hillary. Trumpster's are the biggest suckers around. They believe anything that makes Trump look good and nothing that makes him look bad. It is like a disease.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/russian-propaganda-effort-helped-spread-fake-news-during-election-experts-say/2016/11/24/793903b6-8a40-4ca9-b712-716af66098fe_story.html?utm_term=.a0c0a8b34992
Thats pathetic dood.

You know how the DNC was 'hacked', dont you? You KNOW the oh so technically advanced 'hack'...right?

John Podesta fell for a phishing scam.

:lamo

Keep trying.
 
Wrong. My opinion is not the thread topic. Since you have forgotten what it is, please see the thread title. Nobody is buying your bull**** that my irrelevant courtesy of an opinion is the topic of the thread, so - please (I'm being polite when I shouldn't be) - stop spewing bull****.
Why did you even type your opinion if you dont want to talk about it? Sorry it doesnt work that way; you said it in the OP it is the subject of this thread. It is after the only thing that you said in the OP.


So you want me to disregard this crap:
We've all been duped once again by the state-capitalist megalomaniacs that run the military-industrialist-controlled imperialistic tendencies of the establishment of Corporate America. At this point they may as well be saying, "you had your chance to let us peacefully install Hillary Clinton and continue our Wall Street-controlled militaristic expansion into Europe, so you will now be threatened with one of two choices: war on American soil, or a civilization-neutering nuclear apocalypse involving war with Russia and most of the rest of the world - choose wisely."

Un-****ing-believable. Who the **** do these psychopaths think they are?!
 
I agree.
It's time for you to stop with your partisan garbage.

The DNC and John Podesta's e-mail accounts were hacked and disseminated so as to manipulate public opinion during the election.
Denying that the "wikileaks" dumps affected the election makes you look dishonest and/or idiotic.
In fact there have been posters on here who have explicitly addressed the fact that it influenced their votes.

So the truth about things influenced people's votes? The outrageousness of it all!

It remains silly that Clinton partisans are horrified by this probable hack.
 
Actually a lot the public doesn't watch cable news at all. They get their "news" from Facebook and that was another way Putin boosted Trumps numbers., by saturating social media with fake news about Hillary. There also was inordinately heavy coverage of the DNC and Podesta email leaks and of course Comey's antics were also HUGE as they played into the fake news stories about Clinton's "impending indictments".


News Use Across Social Media Platforms 2016 | Pew Research Center

For much of her campaign, Mrs. Clinton was under criminal investigation. That was not a "fake" news story. When people are under such investigation, it is absolutely reasonable for others to speculate about indictments.
 
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