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In an “exit interview” with Rolling Stone magazine, President Obama said that marijuana use should be treated as a public-health issue similar to tobacco or alcohol and called the current patchwork of state and federal laws regarding the drug “untenable.”
“Look, I’ve been very clear about my belief that we should try to discourage substance abuse,” Obama said. “And I am not somebody who believes that legalization is a panacea. But I do believe that treating this as a public-health issue, the same way we do with cigarettes or alcohol, is the much smarter way to deal with it.”

Obama has made comments to this effect before. In a 2014 interview with the New Yorker magazine he said that marijuana was less dangerous than alcohol “in terms of its impact on the individual consumer.” More recently, he told TV host Bill Maher, “I think we're going to have to have a more serious conversation about how we are treating marijuana and our drug laws generally.”
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I think its pretty clear that the Obama administration sees the writing on the wall. I just hope Jeff "good people dont smoke marijuana" Sessions doenst roll back progress.
 
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TheDemSocialist said:
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I think its pretty clear that the Obama administration sees the writing on the wall. I just hope Jeff "good people dont smoke marijuana" Sessions doenst roll back progress. [/FONT][/COLOR]
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Alcohol is a socially disruptive substance that is a major factor in 45% of violent crimes and marijuana is just as "harmless". I don't understand the argument that because we already have one substance that is causing us lots of problems that we should then allow another substance that will cause problems aswell.

If you want to make the freedom argument that's certainly a whole different issue. But if you are arguing that marijuana should be legal because alcohol is, that is pragmatically moronic.
 
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Crovax said:
Alcohol is a socially disruptive substance that is a major factor in 45% of violent crimes and marijuana is just as "harmless". I don't understand the argument that because we already have one substance that is causing us lots of problems that we should then allow another substance that will cause problems aswell.

If you want to make the freedom argument that's certainly a whole different issue. But if you are arguing that marijuana should be legal because alcohol is, that is pragmatically moronic.
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Provide me with a list of violent, pot-fueled crimes. Let me help you with your answer - they don't happen. Now lets talk about alcohol. There's a huge difference and for you to say one is just as bad as the other shows your ignorance on the subject.
 
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Crovax said:
Alcohol is a socially disruptive substance that is a major factor in 45% of violent crimes and marijuana is just as "harmless". I don't understand the argument that because we already have one substance that is causing us lots of problems that we should then allow another substance that will cause problems aswell.

If you want to make the freedom argument that's certainly a whole different issue. But if you are arguing that marijuana should be legal because alcohol is, that is pragmatically moronic.
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Im definitely arguing from the POV of the freedom argument.
 
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Would of been nice if Obama did more while in office than give lip service on the way out.
 
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So deschedule it you idiot!!!!!

What is he waiting for?
 
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TheDemSocialist said:
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I think its pretty clear that the Obama administration sees the writing on the wall. I just hope Jeff "good people dont smoke marijuana" Sessions doenst roll back progress. [/FONT][/COLOR]
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Obama can go **** himself. The very first White House petition was seeking Obama to soften his stance on Marijuana and he treated it like a joke. Then after claiming he would soften his stance on Marijuana several years later the IRS had huge raids on Marijuana dispenseries in California.

His such a ****ing garbage president and a delusional liar too. He had a chance to treat marijuana like "cigarettes or alcohol" for 8 goddamn years. **** Obama.
 
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Sietske22 said:
So deschedule it you idiot!!!!!

What is he waiting for?
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Chillfolks said:
Would of been nice if Obama did more while in office than give lip service on the way out.
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Obama is a weak ineffectual coward. That's why he's demurred on the issue for 8 years. He's spineless. This last year in office usually involve the president being bold on the way out. Obama is actually displaying more mealy-mouthed two-faced weakness in his last year in office than he has ever before.
 
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Crovax said:
Alcohol is a socially disruptive substance that is a major factor in 45% of violent crimes and marijuana is just as "harmless". I don't understand the argument that because we already have one substance that is causing us lots of problems that we should then allow another substance that will cause problems aswell.
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You don't understand that MJ hasn't been shown to be causing any problems? Huh. Not really all that surprising.
If you want to make the freedom argument that's certainly a whole different issue. But if you are arguing that marijuana should be legal because alcohol is, that is pragmatically moronic.
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LOL! Oh, the delicious irony.
 
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Crovax said:
Alcohol is a socially disruptive substance that is a major factor in 45% of violent crimes and marijuana is just as "harmless". I don't understand the argument that because we already have one substance that is causing us lots of problems that we should then allow another substance that will cause problems aswell.

If you want to make the freedom argument that's certainly a whole different issue. But if you are arguing that marijuana should be legal because alcohol is, that is pragmatically moronic.
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Actually we would not be "allowing", it is already here and been used by generations of Americans even though it was illegal. We are talking about stopping send citizens from going to jail for having it. If you are trying to say pot is like alcohol in that it cause violence you are dead wrong, if anything it has the opposite effect. Pot is less harmful than either alcohol or tobacco yet people are still put in jail for possession and if you are truly for less government then you would want the government out of your personal life.
 
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Casper said:
Actually we would not be "allowing", it is already here and been used by generations of Americans even though it was illegal. We are talking about stopping send citizens from going to jail for having it. If you are trying to say pot is like alcohol in that it cause violence you are dead wrong, if anything it has the opposite effect. Pot is less harmful than either alcohol or tobacco yet people are still put in jail for possession and if you are truly for less government then you would want the government out of your personal life.
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Many conservatives give lip service to the ideas of personal liberty and personal responsiblity, but it's just that: lip service.

They cannot stand the idea of other people pursuing pleasure and being free. Hence the entirety of the WOD.

Our puritanitcal roots run deep.
 
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Crovax said:
Alcohol is a socially disruptive substance that is a major factor in 45% of violent crimes and marijuana is just as "harmless". I don't understand the argument that because we already have one substance that is causing us lots of problems that we should then allow another substance that will cause problems aswell.

If you want to make the freedom argument that's certainly a whole different issue. But if you are arguing that marijuana should be legal because alcohol is, that is pragmatically moronic.
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And your argument that pot should continue to fill up our privately owned prisons is insane. If you want to ban alcohol that would make more sense. Alcohol is far more harmful than pot to society.
 
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TheDemSocialist said:
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I think its pretty clear that the Obama administration sees the writing on the wall. I just hope Jeff "good people dont smoke marijuana" Sessions doenst roll back progress. [/FONT][/COLOR]
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With massive anti-pot smoking campaigns (like alcohol and cigarettes have) to back it up?? Yeah, lets make something legal and then spend millions of dollars to get people to not do it...
 
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TheDemSocialist said:
I think its pretty clear that the Obama administration sees the writing on the wall. I just hope Jeff "good people dont smoke marijuana" Sessions doenst roll back progress. [/FONT][/COLOR]
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His statements falls flat as it has been his administration that has fought to keep MJ a schedule 1 drug.
 
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Crovax said:
Alcohol is a socially disruptive substance that is a major factor in 45% of violent crimes and marijuana is just as "harmless". I don't understand the argument that because we already have one substance that is causing us lots of problems that we should then allow another substance that will cause problems aswell.

If you want to make the freedom argument that's certainly a whole different issue. But if you are arguing that marijuana should be legal because alcohol is, that is pragmatically moronic.
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A substance known to be less disruptive (statistically non-disruptive to be exact) should be illegal because a substance known to be socially disruptive is already legal? That...makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
 
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Crovax said:
Alcohol is a socially disruptive substance that is a major factor in 45% of violent crimes and marijuana is just as "harmless". I don't understand the argument that because we already have one substance that is causing us lots of problems that we should then allow another substance that will cause problems aswell.

If you want to make the freedom argument that's certainly a whole different issue. But if you are arguing that marijuana should be legal because alcohol is, that is pragmatically moronic.
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To me the argument for legalization/decriminalization is fighting the war on drugs causes more harm and is costlier to society than just dealing with addicts and their problems. It's a pragmatic argument.
 
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Schedule I seems excessive, but perhaps at most III.
 
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I don't give a **** about Obama's opinion in the matter if he isn't going to act on it.
 
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TheDemSocialist said:
Read more @: Obama says marijuana should be treated like ‘cigarettes or alcohol’

I think its pretty clear that the Obama administration sees the writing on the wall. I just hope Jeff "good people dont smoke marijuana" Sessions doenst roll back progress. [/FONT][/COLOR]
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Sees the writing on the wall::::does nothing about it. James Buchanon is the worst president we've ever had and he had the same philosophy when it comes to crisis management. Good job Obama. I've always wanted to compare you to the worst ever and now you've given me a reason.
 
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TheDemSocialist said:
Read more @: Obama says marijuana should be treated like ‘cigarettes or alcohol’

I think its pretty clear that the Obama administration sees the writing on the wall. I just hope Jeff "good people dont smoke marijuana" Sessions doenst roll back progress. [/FONT][/COLOR]
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the question that came to mind while reading that interview with Obama was WHERE THE **** HAVE YOU BEEN HIDING ON THIS FOR THE PAST EIGHT YEARS?
 
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justabubba said:
the question that came to mind while reading that interview with Obama was WHERE THE **** HAVE YOU BEEN HIDING ON THIS FOR THE PAST EIGHT YEARS?
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Exiting Presidents always get to be candid on this issue. Not that that actually does anybody any good...
 
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American said:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...egalization/rcccuzhMDWV74UC4IxXIYJ/story.html

It's not been good for children, for one.
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It's been just fine for children. I recommend relying on actual data and reality rather than the usual emotional histrionics about kids. Those who do usually find reality to be quite rewarding.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/colorado-s-teen-marijuana-usage-dips-after-legalization/
 
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