Gen. Keane on Defeating ISIS: Obama Never Asked Military for a Plan to Get That Done

apdst said:

Kill enough of them and you can. Fascism has an insignificant folling nowadays, because we killed most of them out.

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coldjoint said:

Yes, I do. What do you suggest? Submission.

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Casper said:

Step 1:
Get

Out

Of

The

ME

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Casper said:

Wrong. Try again

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coldjoint said:

How do we get the ME out of here? Keep importing them?

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coldjoint said:

How do we get the ME out of here? Keep importing them?

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apdst said:

How am I wrong? It's a fact that we killed so many fascists that fascism ceased to exist as a viable political movement.

The same strategy can be used against the terrorists.

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apdst said:

Obama tried that. How did that work out?

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Casper said:

Political beliefs are not the same as Religious Beliefs, thought you would know that.

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coldjoint said:

Sorry, in Islam they are.

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Casper said:

Only for a small minority. Look you do not attack their beliefs that is a dead end you cannot win. Far better to let them figure it out among themselves and keep their killers over there instead of here. We have tried your method and we have been at war for longer than any other time in our history, maybe it is time for a different approach. Let them hash it out among themselves, it is their pile of sand, let them have it, so long as they keep it among themselves it is their problem.

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zimmer said:

What type of President does not ask for plans, for all options to defeat the enemy?

It's inconceivable, but with the amount of incompetence we've witnessed during the past 8-years, it is not surprising at all.

So much of this job was way above his pay grade. He is the definition of The Peter Principle. Simply in way above his head.

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coldjoint said:

You had better look at the Pew polls. It is hardly a small minority that want to live under Sharia. Laws are political.

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Casper said:

You are misleading on what the report means there is a thread discussing just that. We are not going to be changing over to Sharia laws so you can stop worrying about it as if that is any sort of reality.
As for those in the ME, if the People there want it, let them have it, their Nation, not mine or yours.

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coldjoint said:

But they are not staying in the ME, are they?

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Casper said:

Were most are going is also not our problem, we only need to deal with those wanting to come here. With those I agree with a in-depth vetting or you cannot come here, but unlike yourself I know most of them are hard working people that only want a better life for their families, for them I can do no less because I take my own beliefs seriously.

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iguanaman said:

A President that is determined to learn from Bush's mistakes and would never commit a large ground force in the middle east. He knew that the last time we did that we had the largest number of new radicals joining the jihadist cause ever, not to mention 10's of 1000's of US casualties. Isis is the result of that last troop commitment. They cut their teeth killing Americans in Iraq.

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RetiredUSN said:

The JV team became the varsity team as soon as Obama began fudging numbers of trained Iraqi troops, not understanding the various loyalties of Iraqi troops, and while disregarding the warnings from his generals about prematurely withdrawing the US troops. Isis grew increasingly confident with the growing vacuum this president left behind.

Many competent officers quit, or were fired by Obama due to his refusal to listen. Isis only took what we left open when we left prematurely.

Isis cut their teeth by murdering innocent men, women, children, and planting IED's...........not winning firefights against American & allied soldiers.

Your ignorance of the subject is obvious.

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iguanaman said:

Obama did not sign the agreement that got our forces out in 2010 and you know it. That Iranian puppet Maliki and the Iraqi Govt. that Bush left was unsuited to ruling both sects fairly and was doomed from the start. Isis was already in Syria before our troops left too. Obama got the Iraqi's on the ball and (with our help) they will drive Isis from Iraq before Trump is sworn in. Since it is the Iraqi's doing the door to door fighting they can finally have pride in defending their country instead of being occupied by a foreign force.

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Cardinal said:

You couldn't care less about ISIS, per se.

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apdst said:

ISIS should have never been allowed to overrun Iraq, in the first place.

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RetiredUSN said:

LMAO

The smartest man in the room was played by Milaki.

How did that happen?

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notquiteright said:

In the first place ISIL didn't overrun Iraq- they invaded PART of it.

Second the Iraqi military was more than capable of defeating the incursion but they lacked the will to fight FOR THEIR OWN COUNTRY!

Can you imagine the Founding Fathers and our Revolutionary Army sitting back and waiting for France to send thousands of troops, scores of ships to fight OUR fight???

For that matter can you imagine France STARTING our revolt with thousands of troops, millions of francs???

Again, unless the people of that nation WANT to keep radical Islam out there is no keeping it out without thousands of dead Americans and billions spent attempting a Pyrrhic victory... eace

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Casper said:

Did he? When was that? I ask because we are still in the ME and we have not taken in all that many refugees, got something else?

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Casper said:

Political beliefs are not the same as Religious Beliefs, thought you would know that.

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