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Video: Obama Encourages Illegals to Vote: No Repercussions

Anthony60 said:
I know, I know, all those bad "right wingers" (wish I knew what that is). But really, in the end, Democrats what illegals voting in droves.
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Well, I can't prove what Democrats "what" (I assume you meant 'want') but if you have evidence illegals are voting in droves, please give the evidence to me and all the "conservative" prosecutors all over the country who can't find more than a handful or two of that actually happening.
 
JasperL said:
Well, I can't prove what Democrats "what" (I assume you meant 'want') but if you have evidence illegals are voting in droves, please give the evidence to me and all the "conservative" prosecutors all over the country who can't find more than a handful or two of that actually happening.
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Yes, I know. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Nope, none of that going on here.
 
Anthony60 said:
Yes, I know. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Nope, none of that going on here.
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It's a simple request - you're asserting there is rampant wrongdoing, so you have evidence, right? So present your evidence!

That's normally how people make informed judgments - evaluate evidence for and against a proposition. Right wingers/Conservatives can find no evidence of rampant voter fraud and from that almost total lack of evidence conclude..... there IS rampant voter fraud!!! It's irrational of course.
 
Deuce said:
But you know what, right wingers? Let's talk about this investigation idea you seem to support:

In what manner would you desire federal investigations to start over votes? What information should be passed to the FBI, ICE, etc, from your vote? How should these agencies use this information to trigger an investigation, or advance a new one?
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That is sort of the point. Obama made it clear that they can't track you once you vote, and this comment was directed at illegals.
 
apdst said:
It's a crime if they vote illegally.
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Well, sure, and it's also illegal if they rob a bank. What does that have to do with what Obama said?
 
chuckiechan said:
That is sort of the point. Obama made it clear that they can't track you once you vote, and this comment was directed at illegals.
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But of course registering to vote then voting leaves a permanent record of BOTH, so that's actually not true.

And his comment was obviously not directed at illegals - hack on Fox News (but I repeat myself) deceptively edited the tape to make it appear that way, but the quote in context is crystal clear he was talking about citizens voting.
 
chuckiechan said:
That is sort of the point. Obama made it clear that they can't track you once you vote, and this comment was directed at illegals.
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No, it wasn't directed at illegals.

"Not true, and the reason is, first of all: when you vote, you are a citizen yourself. And there is not a situation where the voting rolls are somehow transferred over and people start investigating, etc. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential in terms of who you voted for. If you have a family member that is maybe undocumented, then you have an even greater reason to vote."

Two interpretations:
1) Obama is pointing out that only citizens can vote
2) Obama is suggesting illegal immigrants who vote magically become citizens

Now, you still pretending #2 is accurate?

So I ask you again: what should be tracked from your vote and sent on to other federal agencies, and how could they use this information for criminal investigation? If you can't answer this question, then you have no actual reason to object to anything Obama said, regardless of whether your perception of his statement is accurate in the first place.
 
Deuce said:
Well, sure, and it's also illegal if they rob a bank. What does that have to do with what Obama said?
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Obama was encouraging illefals to vote. Essentially, inciting a crime.
 
apdst said:
Obama was encouraging illefals to vote. Essentially, inciting a crime.
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No, he wasn't doing that.

"Not true, and the reason is, first of all: when you vote, you are a citizen yourself. And there is not a situation where the voting rolls are somehow transferred over and people start investigating, etc. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential in terms of who you voted for. If you have a family member that is maybe undocumented, then you have an even greater reason to vote."

(Follow up question)

"The reason that fear is promoted is that they don't want people voting. People are discouraged from voting, and part of what is important for latino citizens (Deuce note, he strongly emphasizes the word citizen) is to make your voice heard because you're not just speaking for yourself, you're speaking for family members, friends, classmates of yours in school, who may not have a voice. Who can't legally vote."

He is clearly talking about legal citizens who can legally vote, but have illegal immigrant family members.

You still going to claim otherwise?
 
apdst said:
Obama was encouraging illefals to vote. Essentially, inciting a crime.
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Is an "illefal" like a falafel? :doh

It makes as much sense that way as it would if you said "illegals" so it's hard to tell....
 
JasperL said:
Is an "illefal" like a falafel? :doh

It makes as much sense that way as it would if you said "illegals" so it's hard to tell....
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Really dude, gonna make a whole post about a typo?
 
Deuce said:
Really dude, gonna make a whole post about a typo?
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His post was gibberish without the spelling mistake, as I said, and it's consistent with all his posts on this thread - off topic or gibberish. So seemed appropriate....
 
RabidAlpaca said:
That's not what he said. If you could even hear it over the sound of the guy's respirator. Reporters sometimes ask really stupid questions. At no point does he encourage illegals to illegally vote, but I guess when you have a president with virtually no personal controversies you have to make things up.
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Then post verbatim a quote of what he said.
 
American said:
Then post verbatim a quote of what he said.
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"Not true, and the reason is, first of all: when you vote, you are a citizen yourself. And there is not a situation where the voting rolls are somehow transferred over and people start investigating, etc. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential in terms of who you voted for. If you have a family member that is maybe undocumented, then you have an even greater reason to vote."

(Follow up question)

"The reason that fear is promoted is that they don't want people voting. People are discouraged from voting, and part of what is important for latino citizens (Deuce note, he strongly emphasizes the word citizen) is to make your voice heard because you're not just speaking for yourself, you're speaking for family members, friends, classmates of yours in school, who may not have a voice. Who can't legally vote."
 
where are the intelligent conservatives at this forum? You guys need to step up when crap like this thread is posted. This is why you guys have Trump.
 
apdst said:
It's all you people have. You already know that.
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"Not true, and the reason is, first of all: when you vote, you are a citizen yourself. And there is not a situation where the voting rolls are somehow transferred over and people start investigating, etc. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential in terms of who you voted for. If you have a family member that is maybe undocumented, then you have an even greater reason to vote."

(Follow up question)

"The reason that fear is promoted is that they don't want people voting. People are discouraged from voting, and part of what is important for latino citizens (Deuce note, he strongly emphasizes the word citizen) is to make your voice heard because you're not just speaking for yourself, you're speaking for family members, friends, classmates of yours in school, who may not have a voice. Who can't legally vote."

You've ignored all this multiple times now.
 
apdst said:
It's all you people have. You already know that.
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Right, because you've offered a bunch of evidence backed observations on here and we can't respond because of your rock solid logic! That's it!

Here's your corrected quote: "Obama was encouraging illegals to vote. Essentially, inciting a crime."

Quote him in context encouraging illegals to vote. When he distinguished between citizens who can vote and should vote, with undocumented who cannot vote, why was that if he wanted "illegals" to vote and was encouraging them to ALSO vote?

Etc.
 
Deuce said:
"Not true, and the reason is, first of all: when you vote, you are a citizen yourself. And there is not a situation where the voting rolls are somehow transferred over and people start investigating, etc. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential in terms of who you voted for. If you have a family member that is maybe undocumented, then you have an even greater reason to vote."

(Follow up question)

"The reason that fear is promoted is that they don't want people voting. People are discouraged from voting, and part of what is important for latino citizens (Deuce note, he strongly emphasizes the word citizen) is to make your voice heard because you're not just speaking for yourself, you're speaking for family members, friends, classmates of yours in school, who may not have a voice. Who can't legally vote."

You've ignored all this multiple times now.
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Voting doesn't make one a citizen. Try again.
 
JasperL said:
Right, because you've offered a bunch of evidence backed observations on here and we can't respond because of your rock solid logic! That's it!

Here's your corrected quote: "Obama was encouraging illegals to vote. Essentially, inciting a crime."

Quote him in context encouraging illegals to vote. When he distinguished between citizens who can vote and should vote, with undocumented who cannot vote, why was that if he wanted "illegals" to vote and was encouraging them to ALSO vote?

Etc.
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Question: " Many of the millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens – and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country – are fearful of voting. So if I vote, will Immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?"

Obama: “Not true, and the reason is, first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself. And there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, etc. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential"

Context is everything, boys. Did you notice how Deuce left out Obama's response?
 
apdst said:
Voting doesn't make one a citizen. Try again.
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There are two possible interpretations of that sentence:
1) Obama is referring to the fact that only citizens can vote.
2) Obama, a lawyer, studied constitutional law, president of harvard law review and later of the United States, thinks that when illegal immigrants vote they magically become citizens

Tell me which of those two you think is more likely
 
apdst said:
Question: " Many of the millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens – and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country – are fearful of voting. So if I vote, will Immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?"

Obama: “Not true, and the reason is, first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself. And there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, etc. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential"

Context is everything, boys. Did you notice how Deuce left out Obama's response?
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Uhh, what?I started Obama's response exactly where you did. You're straight lying, and doing it badly.
 
Deuce said:
There are two possible interpretations of that sentence:
1) Obama is referring to the fact that only citizens can vote.
2) Obama, a lawyer, studied constitutional law, president of harvard law review and later of the United States, thinks that when illegal immigrants vote they magically become citizens

Tell me which of those two you think is more likely
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Obama also said that if you kike your doctor that you can keep your doctor. It's about credibility.
 
apdst said:
Obama also said that if you kike your doctor that you can keep your doctor. It's about credibility.
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Game, set, match.

Thank you, apdst. You proved what I needed you to prove.
 
Deuce said:
Game, set, match.

Thank you, apdst. You proved what I needed you to prove.
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Obama also thinks he has the constitutional authority to naturalize illegal aliens. Again, credibility.
 
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