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Trump's 'Proof' Jessica Leeds Lied[W:158]

Re: Trump's 'Proof' Jessica Leeds Lied

trouble13 said:
The fact that these allegations are from decades ago, never reported to the law, and being made in the 12th hour of a political campaign, should be enough to make people skeptical and not just assume these woman for real.

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Are you serious? Sure, a billionaire who has filed over 20,000 lawsuits against people who have said bad things about them is no match for a young woman who probably has trouble making the mortgage. No sane woman is going to file a police report that she was groped by a guy who could and would ruin her life.

However, when a tape of said billionaire in his own words brags about grabbing women without their consent is made public, and said billionaire lies in a debate by denying it, that gives those he abused a small level of safety to say, "oh yes you did, Donald."
 
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DiAnna said:
Are you serious? Sure, a billionaire who has filed over 20,000 lawsuits against people who have said bad things about them is no match for a young woman who probably has trouble making the mortgage. No sane woman is going to file a police report that she was groped by a guy who could and would ruin her life.

However, when a tape of said billionaire in his own words brags about grabbing women without their consent is made public, and said billionaire lies in a debate by denying it, that gives those he abused a small level of safety to say, "oh yes you did, Donald."
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What did he lie about? I heard him appologize.

As far as these women go they may be telling the truth or they may be lying. I dont know and im not assuming anything about any of them.

If you dont think anything about their stories are suspicious, well, i disagree.

I have already said that it should be investigated and if they are telling the truth than trump should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

If they are kying than they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Do you think my position is unfair?

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trouble13 said:
What did he lie about? I heard him appologize.

As far as these women go they may be telling the truth or they may be lying. I dont know and im not assuming anything about any of them.

If you dont think anything about their stories are suspicious, well, i disagree.

I have already said that it should be investigated and if they are telling the truth than trump should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

If they are kying than they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Do you think my position is unfair?

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Yes, I think your position is unfair, primarily because you are willfully ignoring the facts.

Fact A: Nearly ALL of these women told friends and loved ones about what had happened to them at the time it happened. This has been corroborated. For your "suspicions" to be true, one would have to believe that nearly ALL of these women knew anywhere from 10 to 30 years ago that Donald Trump would be running for president in 2016 and were setting the stage to reap some kind of "reward" when that happened.

Fact B: In almost all of the known cases, the statute of limitations has run out both civilly and criminally for these women. The only reward they will receive is being publicly called liars, too ugly to grope, and having their reputations smeared by people who listened to those tapes of Donald confessing to doing exactly what the women have been saying he did to them for decades only to turn around and basically call himself a liar at the debate by denying that he ever did what he clearly said that he did.

Fact C: There are many more recorded pieces of Trump saying the same kinds of things and worse about women over the years, so this "new" tape is basically corroborated by 40 years of Trump's public antics and statements, memorialized by tapes, video and headlines.

Fact D: Because Trump has made himself into a self-admitted "celebrity" and now "public political figure" it is legally almost impossible for him to sue anyone, and I mean anyone for slander. If politicians could sue for slander, the Clintons would have spent half their lives in court and won! However, that double-edged sword called "the law" does not give public figures license to slander private individuals, so he-who-cannot-control-his-narcissistic-tantrums can be sued by these women for what he has said about him publicly.

If you feel so strongly at protecting your favorite candidate, you should do a little Google vetting of just who you are supporting so you won't carry him out on a 2" limb that breaks under his 200 lb weight.
 
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Geoist said:
There was no dishonesty. Pence was quoted promoting this evidence.

And you missed the part I edited in:

Why would Pence be touting important evidence if he did not see the evidence himself? At this point, doesn't 100% trusting the Trump Campaign say something about his decision-making?
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I actually had the same question about Pence. I "get" that he's the running mate (bad decision, but that's for another thread), and as such, he needs to defend Trump or at least give the appearance of such. But Pence is much smarter than his behavior would have indicated last week. He was adamant that Trump had "evidence", because Trump himself was adamant about it. Yet I have to believe that Pence never saw this "evidence" because I know he's smarter that that. Everyone with even a single functioning brain cell knows this "evidence" is anything but.

I feel bad for Pence at this point as I think he pissed away his future by aligning himself with this malignant moron, but that was his choice, and now he has to live with it.
 
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DiAnna said:
Yes, I think your position is unfair, primarily because you are willfully ignoring the facts.

Fact A: Nearly ALL of these women told friends and loved ones about what had happened to them at the time it happened. This has been corroborated. For your "suspicions" to be true, one would have to believe that nearly ALL of these women knew anywhere from 10 to 30 years ago that Donald Trump would be running for president in 2016 and were setting the stage to reap some kind of "reward" when that happened.

Fact B: In almost all of the known cases, the statute of limitations has run out both civilly and criminally for these women. The only reward they will receive is being publicly called liars, too ugly to grope, and having their reputations smeared by people who listened to those tapes of Donald confessing to doing exactly what the women have been saying he did to them for decades only to turn around and basically call himself a liar at the debate by denying that he ever did what he clearly said that he did.

Fact C: There are many more recorded pieces of Trump saying the same kinds of things and worse about women over the years, so this "new" tape is basically corroborated by 40 years of Trump's public antics and statements, memorialized by tapes, video and headlines.

Fact D: Because Trump has made himself into a self-admitted "celebrity" and now "public political figure" it is legally almost impossible for him to sue anyone, and I mean anyone for slander. If politicians could sue for slander, the Clintons would have spent half their lives in court and won! However, that double-edged sword called "the law" does not give public figures license to slander private individuals, so he-who-cannot-control-his-narcissistic-tantrums can be sued by these women for what he has said about him publicly.

If you feel so strongly at protecting your favorite candidate, you should do a little Google vetting of just who you are supporting so you won't carry him out on a 2" limb that breaks under his 200 lb weight.
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They are many possible motives for them to lie. Without more information these are baseless accusations.

If he is the monster you suspect him to be it seems odd to me that he has never been sued or paid hush money (that we know of) over the past 50 years or so.

If theres more tapes of him im sure the media will be running them as their lead.

I never suggested trump sue anyone for slander

Im not protecting trump ivam being fair to him. Same as i am fair to hillary too.



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ocean515 said:
No, I'm being respective of the words directed at women by the Democratic Party candidate for President of the United States. The response from that candidate's followers is what I am drawing out.

It doesn't take this much discussion does it rocket88? It's rather obvious what I am doing and why. The responses were predictable, and continue. You're just adding to the evidence.
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It is obvious what you're doing. Being hypocritical.
 
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Kate, the Dutchess of Cambridge, wore a powder blue dress as Leeds story emerged from the mire. Indeed, she rode coach, though the link is that Trump's wife is Slovak and Assad's wife is a Brit. What will compare with Clinton Foundation-Morocco phosphate cartel is the Princess Diana link to Ashley Hall Plantation. George Washington family DNA links to Jane Gustin, and Renee Jane Gustin's second guardian was William Pence (Gard-Rector Cemetery). This geometry places the DNC in serious jeopardy, for the British MI6 link to the Clinton mafia is the Boteler-Rector-Amery line. Talk about getting left off the invitation list, whether in or out of the White House.
 
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