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Donald Trump says Hillary Clinton has "RIGGED" US Presidential election

Grand Mal said:
Clinton selling out your country doesn't scare me. Having to negotiate a softwood lumber deal with a Trump administration does.
And at least Clinton would sell you out to other Americans. There's been disturbing rumours about Trump and Russia.
Here's a thought- which candidate would Putin appoint if he could?
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that's beyond idiotic. The clinton foundation has taken all sorts of money from hostile foreign operatives
 
Grand Mal said:
Clinton selling out your country doesn't scare me. Having to negotiate a softwood lumber deal with a Trump administration does.
And at least Clinton would sell you out to other Americans. There's been disturbing rumours about Trump and Russia.
Here's a thought- which candidate would Putin appoint if he could?
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Which candidate would iran elect if they could?

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TurtleDude said:
that's beyond idiotic. The clinton foundation has taken all sorts of money from hostile foreign operatives
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It's not 'beyond idiotic' because it's just bantering baseless opinions. Yours is no more idiotic than mine. And I don't know what the Clinton Foundation has to do with the US government. Are you saying that donating to the Clinton Foundation would win a foreign government favour from President Clinton?
I don't dispute the claim, mind, I'm just interested in the possibility. Do you think such a thing is possible?
 
Grand Mal said:
It's not 'beyond idiotic' because it's just bantering baseless opinions. Yours is no more idiotic than mine. And I don't know what the Clinton Foundation has to do with the US government. Are you saying that donating to the Clinton Foundation would win a foreign government favour from President Clinton?
I don't dispute the claim, mind, I'm just interested in the possibility. Do you think such a thing is possible?
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Uh Yeah. why do you think they did it

why do you think sophisticated investment bankers and other OPM experts would pay someone like Hillary 200K for a 30 minute speech?
 
trouble13 said:
Which candidate would iran elect if they could?

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Probably neither. Iran is a very conservative society. Neither candidate would satisfy them.
 
TurtleDude said:
Uh Yeah. why do you think they did it

why do you think sophisticated investment bankers and other OPM experts would pay someone like Hillary 200K for a 30 minute speech?
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I don't know. Because they're buying her allegiance? Probably.
But that's not the same as a foreign government donating to the Clinton Foundation to get favour from the US government.
Or maybe it is, I don't know what 'OPM expert' means.
Don't expect me to argue in favour of Hillary Clinton, and claim she isn't indebted to the Wall Street money moguls. That don't confront me. All I'm saying is, from my perspective, Trump is the worst of the two.
 
iguanaman said:
Actually it will be the 2nd time Trump has "launched an assault against the legitimacy of a U.S. President". This one will be no more successful. Trump will be a sore LOSER and Americans do not like sore losers. I predict Trump fades into bankruptcy.
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Trump has done incredible damage to his brand. If he goes out in a class-less way, his name will be rather worthless within a year. He may not be a billionaire a year from now.
 
Poor Pence. Will he ever really be able to separate himself from Trump's crazy?

Donald Trump and his surrogates amplified their argument over the weekend that the election is "rigged," leaving the Republican nominee more isolated as top members of the GOP -- including his own running mate -- declared their faith in the political system.

Trump opened Sunday with a series of tweets sowing doubt about the legitimacy of the election.

"The election is absolutely being rigged by the dishonest and distorted media pushing Crooked Hillary - but also at many polling places - SAD"
But Trump's own vice presidential nominee, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, disagreed during an interview on NBC's "Meet the Press," saying he will accept the Election Day results.

"We will absolutely accept the result of the election," he said. "Look, the American people will speak in an election that will culminate on November the 8. But the American people are tired of the obvious bias in the national media. That's where the sense of a rigged election goes here, Chuck."
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Trump ratchets up 'rigged election' claims, which Pence downplays - CNNPolitics.com
 
TurtleDude said:
Other than FDR which was a aberration, when has a party keep the white house for more than 12 years?
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Um, 1980-1992?

(EDIT: sorry, didn't see the "more than." My bad)
 
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upsideguy said:
Trump has done incredible damage to his brand. If he goes out in a class-less way, his name will be rather worthless within a year. He may not be a billionaire a year from now.
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I agree. It's going to be interesting to see his reaction when he looses.
 
Doc91478 said:
Wikileaks has proven that the DNC presidential primaries were rigged. Further information shows that the Democratic Party is in the process of stuffing ballots especially the absentee ballot system.
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"Further information" from where, exactly?

And all Wikileaks proved is that the DNC was fully on the Hillary Train, which isn't "rigging" an election. Unless you can prove that fraudulent votes were cast or there was chicanery in the tabulating of votes, then you really can't say it was "rigged."
 
Trump is trying to delegitimize the next President just as he tried to delegitimize the current one.
 
RetiredNSmilin said:
Nope, I am 100% correct.

Samantha Bee and Alex Jones are two cheeks from the same ass, as my Russian friends say.
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That's one of the most idiotic things I've ever read.

Alex Jones peddles bull**** conspiracies to idiots on the radio and internet. Samantha Bee hosts a comedy show.
 
Abbazorkzog said:
Exactly, he doesn't even pass a brown paper bag test.

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This is absurd, to bordering on racist....

The standard here where would Obama have to sit on a Birmingham bus in 1964? You and everyone else on this board knows the answer to that question.

Obama is, by any objective measure, "black".
 
Cardinal said:
Poor Pence. Will he ever really be able to separate himself from Trump's crazy?



Trump ratchets up 'rigged election' claims, which Pence downplays - CNNPolitics.com
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Have to wonder WTF Pence was thinking when he said yes to being VP on Trump's ticket. I'm guessing Trump told him, and the GOP that if Pence said yes that Trump would take the campaign more seriously and he would dial back on the rhetoric. But Trump lied to Pence and the GOP, like he's lied to everyone else. He's a con man, and Pence and the GOP got conned.
 
trouble13 said:
Ah i see what your getting at now. Yes i use media sources for information. There is no choice in the matter. I accept that the information im being given isnt necessiarly factual because it fitting the political leanings of the publication its in. I do my best to temper that by using a variety of sources and applying common sense. I do the best i can to think for myself based on what i hope are objective observations of the materials i have acess too.

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Outside of partisan hacks thats what everyone does. yes some people take what the media tells them and just believes it. The same with what they here politicians tell them. But most us do not trust either so need more than one story. We assume bias, dishonesty, mistakes etc then wait to see if it persists. Personally I havent seen a politicians actually be honest ever. When a politician appears to be being honest it most likely done on purpose for some reason that isnt honest. It usually has to do with getting elected. The media does it for viewers. The media doesnt usually do anything for a conspiratorial purpose or for some politicians goal; they do it for viewers to garner more money. There are more media outlets biased for the left because that is better business for them. And it coincides with another element that stirs their direction; lawsuits.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
Outside of partisan hacks thats what everyone does. yes some people take what the media tells them and just believes it. The same with what they here politicians tell them. But most us do not trust either so need more than one story. We assume bias, dishonesty, mistakes etc then wait to see if it persists. Personally I havent seen a politicians actually be honest ever. When a politician appears to be being honest it most likely done on purpose for some reason that isnt honest. It usually has to do with getting elected. The media does it for viewers. The media doesnt usually do anything for a conspiratorial purpose or for some politicians goal; they do it for viewers to garner more money. There are more media outlets biased for the left because that is better business for them. And it coincides with another element that stirs their direction; lawsuits.
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I disagree with you about the media. Its too lock in step with eachother for me to buy your explination.

As an example of what i mean. The story about the trump aupporters wanting to riot and it cycles through the news loop they all use the exact same words. They do this with almost everything. Does not matter what station your watching your getting the same talking point. They never have a disenting point.

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trouble13 said:
I disagree with you about the media. Its too lock in step with eachother for me to buy your explination.

As an example of what i mean. The story about the trump aupporters wanting to riot and it cycles through the news loop they all use the exact same words. They do this with almost everything. Does not matter what station your watching your getting the same talking point. They never have a disenting point.

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That is because its actually one story/the same story and the media is lazy. Well not lazy but it is more cost effective to just copy Associated Press or Rueters.

You might to research how stories are distributed instead of jumping to conclusions out of ignorance.
 
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